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TrueBlue
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7/31/2007  2:15 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by kam77:

I also thought TrueBlue was explicitly comparing Curry to the league average. Its clear as day from his post.
Originally posted by TrueBlue:

Because EY Curry's PER amongst Centers and compared to league average is not good at all.

Ok, apparently I'm the only one on the board who reads the entire post, because right after he posted comparisons against elite centers. Clear as day. *shrug*

Kam is trying play Jerry Seinfeld. Notice no one asked for clarification.

Once again I refuted Luva's standard/basis for which to compare when he and MS used Zach's comparison to the Elite and I followed suit with Curry. No one was comparing our players to average or below players in this thread. Why would/should we? And the fact the stats reveal Curry is barely above average makes it even more embarrassing.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-31-2007 1:19 PM]
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TrueBlue
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7/31/2007  2:17 PM
Posted by kam77:

Then he should own up to the fact that he contradicted himself immediately after the offending passage. Instead he's sky-larking like he owns the place.

Kam follow the flow of the thread and point out where I contradicted myself. Start with MS and Luva's comparison of Zach and then read my post and links again.
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7/31/2007  2:19 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by kam77:

I also thought TrueBlue was explicitly comparing Curry to the league average. Its clear as day from his post.
Originally posted by TrueBlue:

Because EY Curry's PER amongst Centers and compared to league average is not good at all.

Ok, apparently I'm the only one on the board who reads the entire post, because right after he posted comparisons against elite centers. Clear as day. *shrug*
He made the comparison to elite centers after he was called out, not in the same post. His post made it sound like he was comparing average centers. And like others have said, he contradicts himself later on and then comes out telling people he owns them or whatever teenage crap he can come up with.
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7/31/2007  2:20 PM
You contradicted yourself. Any sane person would twitch when they read you talk about average PER in one breath and average centers and then you post stats for guys like Yao Ming etc... Thats not evident to you?
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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7/31/2007  2:21 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Kam is trying play Jerry Seinfeld. Notice no one asked for clarification.
So people have to ask for something before kam can post his opinion? You should really back the **** off before you start telling people when to post.
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7/31/2007  2:22 PM
I will accept any unreasonable love to Knick club but I will never accept unreasonable love to GM's, coaches, and players who clearly made NY Knicks misarable.
I don't want to see IT, marbs, Eddy, Zach, JJ1, JJ2 alike people to be assotiated with Knicks club.
They are disgrace of NBA and degraded the team I am rooting for.
I will not like them only because they happened to be with Knicks and I cannot undersatnd why somebody should.
If any of this group will be on any other team same people will bash them on dayly basys.


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7/31/2007  2:29 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Kam is trying play Jerry Seinfeld. Notice no one asked for clarification.
So people have to ask for something before kam can post his opinion? You should really back the **** off before you start telling people when to post.

I would never stoop that low and compare our crap to crap and let Luva compare our crap to the Elite.
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7/31/2007  2:36 PM
Guys, guys, as far as I can tell, THIS is the post Tom responded to:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by tomverve:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Because EY Curry's PER amongst Centers and compared to league average is not good at all.

Wherein TrueBlue demonstrates that he doesn't know what he's talking about.


EY's PER is 17 the league average is 15 and when compared to Yao, Howard, Okafor here's where EY plummets to


EY
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/players/hollinger?statsId=3514&action=upsell&appRedirect=
http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fplayers%2fhollinger%3fstatsId%3d3514 17.07

Yao
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/players/hollinger?statsId=3599&action=upsell&appRedirect=
http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fplayers%2fhollinger%3fstatsId%3d3599 26.54

Howard
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/players/hollinger?statsId=3818&action=upsell&appRedirect=
http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fplayers%2fhollinger%3fstatsId%3d3818 21.19

Okafor
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/players/hollinger?statsId=3819&action=upsell&appRedirect=
http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fplayers%2fhollinger%3fstatsId%3d3819 20.15


You're A Tenant


I'm A Lanlord


EXPOSED!

After this is where Tom responded and called him an idiot. You guys all chimed in well after that, so you clearly had an opportunity to read this post.

All I can say is it seems very clear to me, what True was getting at. The fact people got confused is forgiveable. Calling someone an idiot (Tom) because you misunderstood their point is worthy of an apology, though.
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Panos
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7/31/2007  2:38 PM
The official pure love thread seems to be pure bile to me.
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7/31/2007  2:44 PM
I think the real problem is the notion of haters and lovers on this thread. People simply accept be medicore, unproffesional and the joke of the nba while other bring light to the disgraceful job the front office has done over stacking the roster with marginal players that are signed long term and don't have the organizations best interest in mind.

We have a nice collection of role players that on the right team would help a contender, and a few of those pieces have some really solid long term potential.....

This thread started off with Zach Randolf is a top 5 pf in this league period. Which i refute right away, and brought up 10 guys teams would rather have at that slot and its probably a little larger. Nothing i said was untrue.

If people want to bring up eddy as an average center i don't have a problem with it because the reality of the matter is he is the best low post scoring center in the nba outside of shaq and then looking at every of facet of his game he is probably in the 23-30 range, that is another fact.....

No blind hatred by any of those comments
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7/31/2007  2:50 PM
Hey! Get outta my zone haters! This is a love movement!

Tim Duncan is not a power fwd. He is a center and he has always been a center. If he isn't, then tell me who's the spurs starting center. Go ahead I'll wait.

Gasol is not a power fwd! He hasn't been a power fwd yet. Again if he isn't a center then tell me who is memphis' center? Go ahead I will wait.

Amare stoudamire hasn't been a power fwd since marbs was in pheonix. Even then amare was the center. Marion has been the power fwd there for the last 3 seasons.

Jermaine oneal hasn't been a center since brad miller left Indiana.

Howard is not a power fwd. The dude is a center. Didn't he get selected to the all-star game as a center?

So according to me, only dirk, KG, brand are better than zach at the 4. Boozer is good but I think zach is better. They may be equal. Either way that's top 5.

That number pushes curry down to top 10 somewhere. That only cuz curry isn't as polished as the rest. Curry the way he is now is probably still top 5 in low post scoring in the whole NBA.

Anyway, I don't even know why i said top anything around you bastards. Curry and zach are both better than kt and Clarence weatherspoon I tell you that right now!!!

If isiah signed Jesus Christ, guys here would say he wasn't sacrificing enough. If Moses was a knick they would say he wasn't a good leader.

You can't make me angry!!! Happy happy happy!!!

So there are 30 guys better than craw? Give me a break. Saying that says that every shooting guard in the league is better just about. I agree craw has a terrible shooting percentage. His defense is not that bad. Guys aren't dropping 30 on him everynight. Get off that bull****. Happy thoughts! Craw is the best ball handling 2 guards in the league. Only elite players like wade, kobe and Vince have better handles. I said 2 guards!!! Happy!!! Love!!! Joy!!!

Marbs had a good season last year. He started off bad but he completely revamped his game and was a steady component. Craw was erratic but he still was effective and cold blooded when it counted.

Let's not forget how ***** channing Frye was last year. I am the only person, let me step that up a little. I am the first person! To burn channing for being such a bitch. Everyone including haters had an excuse for channing. Fuck channing. He was there when everyone went down. He is the one that said he earned his starting spot. What?!?! That faggot let his team down and had the audacity to say he was being used wrong. Fuck him.

Say what you want, but zach is not gonna puss out. Fuck the stats. Is their a stat for the puss factor? Well my puss factor rates channing off the scale. He is an elite puss.

I'm not afraid of Boston cuz while people are starting to say the knicks can't guard them, well they can't guard the knicks either!!!

We'll see how the season plays out. The thing is I will still follow the knicks win or lose. Yeah I want the team to win a championship. Winning isn't everything, the championship is!!! Who cares if a team wins 82 games if the get smacked in the first round! Huh? Who is that? Oh yeah dallas!!! Nash is bob cousy just like kidd is magic Johnson. Neither one has a ring! Just like marbury! Actually just like me!

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Dolan sells the team go knicks!! Dolan is 97 and still owns the knicks? Go knicks!!

Isiah is fired? Go knicks! Isiah retires 30 years from now as GM? Go knicks!

Espn goes bankrupt and off the air and internet? How will anybody get an opinion? Go knicks!

Espn makes bibles and people convert to espnism by the millions? Go knicks!

Andrew and Martin trash this site focus more on their internet porn empire? Go knicks!!

I become homeless and live on the train? Go knicks!!

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7/31/2007  2:52 PM
^ LOL!
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7/31/2007  3:03 PM
Sorry Eny, I'll give you Howard and Stoudamire, but Gasol and Duncan are PFs.
In the early days, Duncan's center was Robinson, and since then a bunch of stiffs,
including Nazr Mohammed.
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7/31/2007  3:07 PM
ROFL!!!!
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7/31/2007  3:14 PM
C-Darko C-Elson C-Foster
PF-Howard PF-Duncan PF-JO

So then Eddy is not a top 10 center in the leauge then by your calculations, and David Robinson was the center before if you want to go back and check or Nazar or Rasho, I am waiting.....So Bosh is not better either than Zach, wait he must be the C? And if Marion is a pf than he is better than Zach as well since he has better career averages down the line

OK just for fun, who would you rather have
Atl-Joe Johnson.............yes
Bos-Paul Pierce.............yes
Bobcats-Jason Richardson.............yes
Bulls-Ben Gordon.............yes
Cavs-Lebron or Hughes.............yes
Mavs-Jason Terry.............yes
Pistons-Rip.............yes
Nuggets-AI.............yes
Warriors-Ellis.............yes
Rockets-TMAC.............yes
Pacers...........no
Clippers-Do you count Corey, maybe not
Lakers-Kobe.............yes
Memphis-Gay is going to play the two.............yes
Heat-Wade.............yes
Bucks-Redd.............yes
TWolves-Foye.............yes
Nets-Vince.............yes
Hornets-.............no
Majic.............no
Sixers-Iggy.............yes
Suns-Bell or Borbosa.............yes
Portland-Roye.............yes
Sacto-Martin.............yes
Spurs-Manu.............yes
Raptors-Parker.............yes
NO for Utah, Seatle, Was

I got at least 24 guys above jamal, and i would take nate over him as well i am sure if you but a guard in the leauge in his situation where he has the green light and doesn't have to d up you could get a few more......

But you act like these are wild generalization
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7/31/2007  3:20 PM
forgot Ray Allen
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7/31/2007  3:21 PM
Oh, and there are lots of combo guards that would be better at the two as well.
Arenas? others...
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7/31/2007  3:22 PM
Posted by Panos:

forgot Ray Allen

It's him or Paul Pierce
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TrueBlue
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7/31/2007  3:25 PM
Pacers Yes if it's Danny Granger
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7/31/2007  3:27 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Panos:

forgot Ray Allen

It's him or Paul Pierce


I'd rather have either!
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