Posted by martin:

Posted by playa2:

Posted by bobs3304:

btw just to throw in my daily piece of sarcasm....


"What are you guys talking about? We'll always have Adam Morrison!"

Bob this is my point, why do you think Charlotte took Morrisson over the likes of a Brandon Roy. Maybe the fans in Charlotte will come and support morrisson out of curiosity than a projected NBA ready BRANDON ROY

Morrison to CHA cause Jordan sucks as a evaluator.

did someone say kwame brown

and just accept racism.

Posted by bigpimpin:

More white young men in America are becoming high school dropouts, convicted felons and inmates.

Tell all of you one thing. playa sure knows how to bring the hatred out of everyone here. And I thought this was a Knicks forum.

Posted by 4949:

Posted by bigpimpin:

More white young men in America are becoming high school dropouts, convicted felons and inmates.

Tell all of you one thing. playa sure knows how to bring the hatred out of everyone here. And I thought this was a Knicks forum.

I will never want to see hatred come out of anyone on this forum against one another.

I think we all respect one another here, even when we disagree on things.

But one thing I have learned thru the yrs is this : MINORITIES have always had to try and understand and learn about how whites think, just to get a head in life.

But on the other hand Whites just now have started diversity training , so all of these yrs whites never had learn or understand minorities to get ahead in life unless the job they went to required them too.

So throughout the yrs when a minority spoke on how he thought or felt about an issue he was considered uppity or a problem.

So don't see me as a person wanting people to hate each other, I just wanted a lively discussion on somethings that we as people can all learn from.... but for so many reasons we shy away from.

Posted by playa2:

Posted by 4949:

Posted by bigpimpin:

More white young men in America are becoming high school dropouts, convicted felons and inmates.

Tell all of you one thing. playa sure knows how to bring the hatred out of everyone here. And I thought this was a Knicks forum.

I will never want to see hatred come out of anyone on this forum against one another.

I think we all respect one another here, even when we disagree on things.

But one thing I have learned thru the yrs is this : MINORITIES have always had to try and understand and learn about how whites think, just to get a head in life.

But on the other hand Whites just now have started diversity training , so all of these yrs whites never had learn or understand minorities to get ahead in life unless the job they went to required them too.

So throughout the yrs when a minority spoke on how he thought or felt about an issue he was considered uppity or a problem.

So don't see me as a person wanting people to hate each other, I just wanted a lively discussion on somethings that we as people can all learn from.... but for so many reasons we shy away from.

this one won't get addressed^

What you're saying about changing the league's image vs. what was said earlier about it being a racist decision are vastly different, IMHO. The league changing its image after many embarassing incidents, not the least of which was the Artest brawl in the stands... is reasonable. It's not targetted at any specific racial group, however.

Posted by Solace:

Posted by bigpimpin:

Once again, its not as simple as you are trying to make it out to be. If I had gotten a change that required me to wear a suit/dress casual, as I do, then no I wouldn't be upset. I would try and look professional. But if I had gotten a job that beforehand made millions from the image I portrayed then HELL YEAH, I would be upset after that job blatabtly degraded the culture from which I came and which it has "consumately" pimped.

See, I didn't wanna go there but you forced my hand.

Sorry, I just don't see your point. I just can't see where you're coming from. I'm trying to, honestly, but no.

Posted by sebstar:

What you're saying about changing the league's image vs. what was said earlier about it being a racist decision are vastly different, IMHO. The league changing its image after many embarassing incidents, not the least of which was the Artest brawl in the stands... is reasonable. It's not targetted at any specific racial group, however.

I guess it just boils down to us having a different history and different perspectives. We just interpret things differently when viewing things through racial prisms.

I dont think the dress code was overt racism, but it was certainly latent. The dress code had nothing to do with the incident in question, which, btw, was instigated by a fan who attacked a player who was and still is considered to be one of the more mentally imbalanced players in sports.

Stern, to me, was saying "look white America, I can scrub and clean up these negroes and keep them in check, by limiting the expression of their culture." Lets take back their rights, like the NFL which doesnt allow players to wear doo-rags...who do you think thats targeting? What does wearing a suit to a b-ball game accomplish? Do you wear a suit to watch b-ball? How did it solve fan vs. player violence?

As other posters have already noted, the NBA exploited the hell out of hip hop when there was money to be found in it...the minute something goes wrong, and its like they say: 'everybody wants to be black until the cops show up'. Instead of defending his players, I felt Stern bowed to racist sentiment.