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5/16/2007  12:02 PM
So now David Stern is calling fouls?
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5/16/2007  12:04 PM
Does anyone else find it comical that Stu Jackson openly admitted Duncan shouldn't have been on the court, but dished out no disciplinary action to the findings?
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Posted by TrueBlue:

Does anyone else find it comical that Stu Jackson openly admitted Duncan shouldn't have been on the court, but dished out no disciplinary action to the findings?

perhaps you should put out the whole quote so it is not taken out of context. I read something entire different from the same words.

BTW. David Stern has been the best commish ever, if I read your words right.
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5/16/2007  12:09 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Does anyone else find it comical that Stu Jackson openly admitted Duncan shouldn't have been on the court, but dished out no disciplinary action to the findings?

perhaps you should put out the whole quote so it is not taken out of context. I read something entire different from the same words.

BTW. David Stern has been the worst commish ever, if I read your words right.

From Gilligan's own mouth
This was different, NBA vice president Stu Jackson said. Duncan “should not have been on the court,” he said. But, “There was no altercation.”


What does that mean? Like he shouldn't be on the court but if he was oh well?



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-16-2007 11:11 AM]
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Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Does anyone else find it comical that Stu Jackson openly admitted Duncan shouldn't have been on the court, but dished out no disciplinary action to the findings?

perhaps you should put out the whole quote so it is not taken out of context. I read something entire different from the same words.

BTW. David Stern has been the best commish ever, if I read your words right.

From Gilligan's own mouth
This was different, NBA vice president Stu Jackson said. Duncan “should not have been on the court,” he said. But, “There was no altercation.”


What does that mean? Like he shouldn't be on the court but if he was oh well?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-16-2007 11:10 AM]

the rule is if there is an altercation bench players can't leave the bench.

what part of the above is unclear?
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5/16/2007  12:13 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Does anyone else find it comical that Stu Jackson openly admitted Duncan shouldn't have been on the court, but dished out no disciplinary action to the findings?

perhaps you should put out the whole quote so it is not taken out of context. I read something entire different from the same words.

BTW. David Stern has been the worst commish ever, if I read your words right.

From Gilligan's own mouth
This was different, NBA vice president Stu Jackson said. Duncan “should not have been on the court,” he said. But, “There was no altercation.”


What does that mean? Like he shouldn't be on the court but if he was oh well?



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-16-2007 11:11 AM]

so how is Stern the worst commish ever? Made the NBA a spotlight sport, brought it back from a drug filled 70/80's, highlighted Jordan, made oodles of $$ for everyone.
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5/16/2007  12:13 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Does anyone else find it comical that Stu Jackson openly admitted Duncan shouldn't have been on the court, but dished out no disciplinary action to the findings?

perhaps you should put out the whole quote so it is not taken out of context. I read something entire different from the same words.

BTW. David Stern has been the best commish ever, if I read your words right.

From Gilligan's own mouth
This was different, NBA vice president Stu Jackson said. Duncan “should not have been on the court,” he said. But, “There was no altercation.”


What does that mean? Like he shouldn't be on the court but if he was oh well?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-16-2007 11:10 AM]

the rule is if there is an altercation bench players can't leave the bench.

what part of the above is unclear?


At no point can NBA players who aren't in the game be on the court, it's a delay of game or technical. My point is, absolutely nothing transpired from him stepping on the court. By saying a player shouldn't be on the court means what?
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All I ask is where is the justice..

Baron Davis pops fisher in the head, richardson clothelined someone and neither got a suspension. Horry got a suspension for what? his foul was no harder than the others, how about bowens knee to nash's groin? yet a few players get up off the bench, and maybe a little overaction in a good, hardfought, emotional series and two guys who didn't throw a punch, flagrant foul or even foul a player gets suspended in probably the most pivotal game of the series!!!

I call that bull ****!!
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5/16/2007  12:26 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Does anyone else find it comical that Stu Jackson openly admitted Duncan shouldn't have been on the court, but dished out no disciplinary action to the findings?

perhaps you should put out the whole quote so it is not taken out of context. I read something entire different from the same words.

BTW. David Stern has been the worst commish ever, if I read your words right.

From Gilligan's own mouth
This was different, NBA vice president Stu Jackson said. Duncan “should not have been on the court,” he said. But, “There was no altercation.”


What does that mean? Like he shouldn't be on the court but if he was oh well?



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-16-2007 11:11 AM]

so how is Stern the worst commish ever? Made the NBA a spotlight sport, brought it back from a drug filled 70/80's, highlighted Jordan, made oodles of $$ for everyone.

He's been the beneficiary of Greatest Ever Talents entering in the league on his watch. The players brought the league back not that NITWIT and when those players left so has a major part of the game. There are very few 1 star team career players left because he's created a greedy financial environment. With this he's created the opportunities for scrubs to kill franhcises by FA off-season signings. We've seen stars more than ever try and hold franchises hostage because of this environment. We've seen more blockbuster deals involving 75% scrub players. We've seen expansion teams water down this league. We've seen franchises tank. We've seen less fundamentals and more playground because of the high school love fest kill the game. It's been modified/tweaked a little but the damage has been done. We've seen stars stats pad to get that new contract and then tank once they get them. Where do I stop I could go on and on and on
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5/16/2007  12:34 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Does anyone else find it comical that Stu Jackson openly admitted Duncan shouldn't have been on the court, but dished out no disciplinary action to the findings?

perhaps you should put out the whole quote so it is not taken out of context. I read something entire different from the same words.

BTW. David Stern has been the worst commish ever, if I read your words right.

From Gilligan's own mouth
This was different, NBA vice president Stu Jackson said. Duncan “should not have been on the court,” he said. But, “There was no altercation.”


What does that mean? Like he shouldn't be on the court but if he was oh well?



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-16-2007 11:11 AM]

so how is Stern the worst commish ever? Made the NBA a spotlight sport, brought it back from a drug filled 70/80's, highlighted Jordan, made oodles of $$ for everyone.

He's been the beneficiary of Greatest Ever Talents entering in the league on his watch. The players brought the league back not that NITWIT and when those players left so has a major part of the game. There are very few 1 star team career players left because he's created a greedy financial environment. With this he's created the opportunities for scrubs to kill franhcises by FA off-season signings. We've seen stars more than ever try and hold franchises hostage because of this environment. We've seen more blockbuster deals involving 75% scrub players. We've seen expansion teams water down this league. We've seen franchises tank. We've seen less fundamentals and more playground because of the high school love fest kill the game. It's been modified/tweaked a little but the damage has been done. We've seen stars stats pad to get that new contract and then tank once they get them. Where do I stop I could go on and on and on

and yet the league has grown year after year after year since he grabbed control.

No one said he had to be perfect. I could add to your list. But if your criteria of being the worst/best Commish ever only by your standards, then it's dead from the start. I mean, baseball did good in the lockout, right? And hockey is coming along nicely? Football strikes?
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5/16/2007  12:35 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Does anyone else find it comical that Stu Jackson openly admitted Duncan shouldn't have been on the court, but dished out no disciplinary action to the findings?

perhaps you should put out the whole quote so it is not taken out of context. I read something entire different from the same words.

BTW. David Stern has been the best commish ever, if I read your words right.

From Gilligan's own mouth
This was different, NBA vice president Stu Jackson said. Duncan “should not have been on the court,” he said. But, “There was no altercation.”


What does that mean? Like he shouldn't be on the court but if he was oh well?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-16-2007 11:10 AM]

the rule is if there is an altercation bench players can't leave the bench.

what part of the above is unclear?


At no point can NBA players who aren't in the game be on the court, it's a delay of game or technical. My point is, absolutely nothing transpired from him stepping on the court. By saying a player shouldn't be on the court means what?

you didn't answer my question first. Was Duncan on the court during an altercation?
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5/16/2007  12:44 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Does anyone else find it comical that Stu Jackson openly admitted Duncan shouldn't have been on the court, but dished out no disciplinary action to the findings?

perhaps you should put out the whole quote so it is not taken out of context. I read something entire different from the same words.

BTW. David Stern has been the best commish ever, if I read your words right.

From Gilligan's own mouth
This was different, NBA vice president Stu Jackson said. Duncan “should not have been on the court,” he said. But, “There was no altercation.”


What does that mean? Like he shouldn't be on the court but if he was oh well?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-16-2007 11:10 AM]

the rule is if there is an altercation bench players can't leave the bench.

what part of the above is unclear?


At no point can NBA players who aren't in the game be on the court, it's a delay of game or technical. My point is, absolutely nothing transpired from him stepping on the court. By saying a player shouldn't be on the court means what?

you didn't answer my question first. Was Duncan on the court during an altercation?

It wasn't classified as an altercation Martin according to Stu, thus he wasn't given any punishment which is comical. My ? is why wasn't Duncan supposed to be on the court, it's a very simple ?. Let's say nothing happened at all on the court Duncan was just standing out there during game action, what's the penalty for it? I'm pretty positive it's a delay of game or technical. Nothing happened to him nor his teammates, nothing it's BS END OF STORY!


Here's some pics of Duncan and others on the court during Nash and Elson's under bridging LOL(non altercation)








If no Altercation took place why be on the court?



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-16-2007 11:55 AM]
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5/16/2007  12:46 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Does anyone else find it comical that Stu Jackson openly admitted Duncan shouldn't have been on the court, but dished out no disciplinary action to the findings?

perhaps you should put out the whole quote so it is not taken out of context. I read something entire different from the same words.

BTW. David Stern has been the worst commish ever, if I read your words right.

From Gilligan's own mouth
This was different, NBA vice president Stu Jackson said. Duncan “should not have been on the court,” he said. But, “There was no altercation.”


What does that mean? Like he shouldn't be on the court but if he was oh well?



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-16-2007 11:11 AM]

so how is Stern the worst commish ever? Made the NBA a spotlight sport, brought it back from a drug filled 70/80's, highlighted Jordan, made oodles of $$ for everyone.

He's been the beneficiary of Greatest Ever Talents entering in the league on his watch. The players brought the league back not that NITWIT and when those players left so has a major part of the game. There are very few 1 star team career players left because he's created a greedy financial environment. With this he's created the opportunities for scrubs to kill franhcises by FA off-season signings. We've seen stars more than ever try and hold franchises hostage because of this environment. We've seen more blockbuster deals involving 75% scrub players. We've seen expansion teams water down this league. We've seen franchises tank. We've seen less fundamentals and more playground because of the high school love fest kill the game. It's been modified/tweaked a little but the damage has been done. We've seen stars stats pad to get that new contract and then tank once they get them. Where do I stop I could go on and on and on

hell why did you stop? keep going, you are 100% correct and I could not agree more. Another thing is how the league has caved into the players to the detriment of the NBA. this is the only pro league where you can sign a player to a huge deal and have his deal kill a franchise. In football you can cut a player and all you are on the hook is for the signing bonus, in baseball you can trade a big money player for a smaller money player as long as you can afford it, but the key is, in foot ball and baseball, teams can move players and are not held hostage by max contracts. Tell me, is it going to benefit the league when the bucks will be hamstrung by redds contract? just look at our knicks? If jerry west wanted to come take over this job he couldn't do a damn thing because of the idiotic moves of his predecessors.....
he's created a greedy financial environment
.

yup, and there is no better example of that than sprewell who refuses to come back and play for a measly vets min of 1 mil per year, because obviously that is not enough money to feed his kids!!!!! wht bull ****!
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5/16/2007  12:46 PM
I didn't seer the play where Duncan left the bench. Maybe he should have been suspended too. But I have no problem with the off the bench suspensions so long as guys are still doing it. When players no longer leave the bench it wont be an issue.

The rule is to prevent brawls and unnecessary violence, like Greg Anthony sucker punching KJ. The implementation may not always be prefect, but the cause is right.

I thought that foul by Horry was relatively mild. Through in the 80's and 90's that was merely a good, hard "playoffs foul". You want to give him a flagrant one or two just to try to clean up the series, fine, But without all these suspensions for leaving the bench a simple flagrant foul runs the risk of turning really ugly with players and fans as possible casualties.

BTW, does the league really prefer SA over Phoenix? Duncan isn't nearly as marketable as Amare and Nash, and Phoenix seems like the darling of the NBA in the eyes of many sportswriters and fans. If there were any bias involved, shouldn't Nash, the white guy, be the beneficiary? Isn't SA the team raising the profile of the "thuggish" antics Sterns is reputedly so much against?

Something doesn't compute.
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5/16/2007  12:46 PM
Posted by martin:

you didn't answer my question first. Was Duncan on the court during an altercation?

If it weren't an altercation, then why was he on the court?

Does he normally walk on the court in the middle of play, just for the hell of it?
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5/16/2007  12:56 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by martin:

you didn't answer my question first. Was Duncan on the court during an altercation?

If it weren't an altercation, then why was he on the court?

Does he normally walk on the court in the middle of play, just for the hell of it?

Reposting the pics again. What was Duncan and others doing during this, eating Crumpets and Cake?








[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-16-2007 12:00 PM]
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5/16/2007  1:00 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by martin:

you didn't answer my question first. Was Duncan on the court during an altercation?

If it weren't an altercation, then why was he on the court?

Does he normally walk on the court in the middle of play, just for the hell of it?

Reposting the pics again. What Duncan and other doing during this, eating Crumpets and Cake?







there are thousands of examples of where players are on the court when they shouldn't be. Post those too.

question still remains, was there an altercation? No. The refs missed it if they were supposed to give a tech or whatever. Spilt milk.

When there is a great dunk by a team the bench usually explodes and some guys end up on the court. Fines? Techs? or just ignore?
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5/16/2007  1:04 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

I didn't seer the play where Duncan left the bench. Maybe he should have been suspended too. But I have no problem with the off the bench suspensions so long as guys are still doing it. When players no longer leave the bench it wont be an issue.

The rule is to prevent brawls and unnecessary violence, like Greg Anthony sucker punching KJ. The implementation may not always be prefect, but the cause is right.

I thought that foul by Horry was relatively mild. Through in the 80's and 90's that was merely a good, hard "playoffs foul". You want to give him a flagrant one or two just to try to clean up the series, fine, But without all these suspensions for leaving the bench a simple flagrant foul runs the risk of turning really ugly with players and fans as possible casualties.

BTW, does the league really prefer SA over Phoenix? Duncan isn't nearly as marketable as Amare and Nash, and Phoenix seems like the darling of the NBA in the eyes of many sportswriters and fans. If there were any bias involved, shouldn't Nash, the white guy, be the beneficiary? Isn't SA the team raising the profile of the "thuggish" antics Sterns is reputedly so much against?

Something doesn't compute.

Yet Bruce Bowen keeps getting off Scott Free.
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5/16/2007  1:08 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by martin:

you didn't answer my question first. Was Duncan on the court during an altercation?

If it weren't an altercation, then why was he on the court?

Does he normally walk on the court in the middle of play, just for the hell of it?

Reposting the pics again. What Duncan and other doing during this, eating Crumpets and Cake?







there are thousands of examples of where players are on the court when they shouldn't be. Post those too.

question still remains, was there an altercation? No. The refs missed it if they were supposed to give a tech or whatever. Spilt milk.

When there is a great dunk by a team the bench usually explodes and some guys end up on the court. Fines? Techs? or just ignore?


What's the Letter Of The Law say. Couldn't they have just looked this one over? What if something happened as soon as Duncan stepped on the court with no altercation? Do they go back and re modify the rule? No players leave San Antonio's bench if Elson doesn't have that happen to him. Once again why wasn't Duncan supposed to be on the court?
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Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by martin:

you didn't answer my question first. Was Duncan on the court during an altercation?

It wasn't classified as an altercation Martin according to Stu, thus he wasn't given any punishment which is comical. My ? is why wasn't Duncan supposed to be on the court, it's a very simple ?. Let's say nothing happened at all on the court Duncan was just standing out there during game action, what's the penalty for it? I'm pretty positive it's a delay of game or technical. Nothing happened to him nor his teammates, nothing it's BS END OF STORY!


Here's some pics of Duncan and others on the court during Nash and Elson's under bridging LOL(non altercation)








If no Altercation took place why be on the court?

well, should nash be suspended for causing the non-altercation that drew duncan onto the court? i mean, if horry got suspended for his hard foul then shouldn't the league come down on nash too?

[Edited by - Masterplan on 05-16-2007 1:16 PM]
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