Posted by NYKBocker:

What's the hubub bub?
CAREER AVERAGES

Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
06-07 NYK 57 57 34.6 .593 .000 .619 2.5 4.6 7.1 0.8 0.4 0.5 3.40 3.40 19.6
Career 418 328 25.2 .546 1.000 .650 1.8 3.5 5.4 0.6 0.3 0.8 2.20 3.10 13.2

Eddy has show dramatic improvements this year.
He is +1.7 in total rpg from his career ave.
He is +1.1 in total def rpg from his career ave.
He is +0.7 in total off rpg from his career ave.
He is +6.4 in total ppg from his career ave.
He has a career high in FG% despite being the focal point of opposing defenses.

If you look at his numbers I don't think you can call him lazy. One thing that I have noticed about Eddy is just that he does not have the nose for the ball. Defensively or rebounding wise. Unfortunately, this is something you can't teach. Either you are an average rebounder or a great rebounder. As for blocking shots, I think he developed some bad habits in the past when he was continually in foul trouble early in the game. From there he just did not want to pick up anymore fouls hence he does not go after shots like. Also, he is just not built for blocking shots. He is in the mold of a Moses Malone(career 1.3 BPG), Willis Reed(career 1.1 BPG)...just a center with girth. Not the long skinnier type like Chamberlain, Russell, Motumbo, Ewing. Shaq is a diff monster all together.

I think people confuse his facial expressions to laziness. I see him trying to go for boards...he just goes to the wrong spot.

Eddy has shown significant improvement from years past.

Posted by TMS:

Eddie's also hitting his shots at an 80%+ clip over the last several weeks... that's sorta another reason why he's on the court.

Posted by bigbeast:

Posted by NYKBocker:

What's the hubub bub?
CAREER AVERAGES

Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
06-07 NYK 57 57 34.6 .593 .000 .619 2.5 4.6 7.1 0.8 0.4 0.5 3.40 3.40 19.6
Career 418 328 25.2 .546 1.000 .650 1.8 3.5 5.4 0.6 0.3 0.8 2.20 3.10 13.2

Eddy has show dramatic improvements this year.
He is +1.7 in total rpg from his career ave.
He is +1.1 in total def rpg from his career ave.
He is +0.7 in total off rpg from his career ave.
He is +6.4 in total ppg from his career ave.
He has a career high in FG% despite being the focal point of opposing defenses.

If you look at his numbers I don't think you can call him lazy. One thing that I have noticed about Eddy is just that he does not have the nose for the ball. Defensively or rebounding wise. Unfortunately, this is something you can't teach. Either you are an average rebounder or a great rebounder. As for blocking shots, I think he developed some bad habits in the past when he was continually in foul trouble early in the game. From there he just did not want to pick up anymore fouls hence he does not go after shots like. Also, he is just not built for blocking shots. He is in the mold of a Moses Malone(career 1.3 BPG), Willis Reed(career 1.1 BPG)...just a center with girth. Not the long skinnier type like Chamberlain, Russell, Motumbo, Ewing. Shaq is a diff monster all together.

I think people confuse his facial expressions to laziness. I see him trying to go for boards...he just goes to the wrong spot.

Eddy has shown significant improvement from years past.

very good points here.

Posted by bigbeast:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by holfresh:

Skiles has his good and has his bads...Let's say developing players isn't his thing...Maybe Curry was a lazy bum that didn't want to work hard and Skiles had enough of his sheit...How do you explain Tyson Chandler stepping up his game this year..

Chicago does enough to get to the playoffs..But they are really no threat..Maybe thats all it takes to make some happy..After all I'm the nitwit...


[Edited by - holfresh on 02-27-2007 01:09 AM]

[Edited by - holfresh on 02-27-2007 01:10 AM]

Uhhhhh No worst or better than ISAYUGH right?

On second thought let's say better in the case of Skiles.

We can see so much progress in Nate, Frye, Balkman, and Mardy this yr under ISAYUGH. ISAYUGH can only hang his hat on Lee and Curry meanwhile Skiles can hang his hat on Gordon, Deng, Nocioni, and even Kirk Hinrich who are all having their best seasons as a pro under his watch. But don't let FACTS get in the way of your NITWITTED AGENDAS.


Word of Advice...... think real hard and long before you type.


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-27-2007 08:47 AM]

Sugarray already called you out so you need to chill with the namecalling.....BTW, I guess Isiah doesn't get any credit for developing J O'neal, Artest who both blossomed under his watch, in addition to Curry and Lee.

Posted by NYKBocker:

So I can basically ask you the same question...Do you really think he is not going to work on improving the areas that get no recognition from Isiah Thomas? So you can predict that he won't work at it?

You site decrease in blocks from .8 to .5. Is that really a big diff in your eyes? You attribute his increased numbers due to his increased playing time. Well, doesn't that show work ethic in that he is now able to play more minutes?

Posted by Rich:

Oh please, when he began his streak of 20 pt games, a lot of people here were saying it wouldn't last.

I'd trade Ty Thomas for Curry in a heartbeat. Who they give up this year will be determinative on the trade.

Posted by Solace:

Posted by NYKBocker:

On the topic of blocks, he never had a high BPG, 0.8 to 0.5. 50% of less than 1 is nothing. He was never a shot blocker so one can argue that he is on average this year.

How can you argue that??? That's like putting an entire pie and half a pie next to each other and saying they're the same. One who argued such would be... how you say, wrong.

Posted by Silverfuel:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Rich:

Oh please, when he began his streak of 20 pt games, a lot of people here were saying it wouldn't last.

I'd trade Ty Thomas for Curry in a heartbeat. Who they give up this year will be determinative on the trade.

This is true. That's why people now just forget about Ty Thomas and just point to this year's deep draft. Ty Thomas and Ben Wallace have to be Chicago's biggest disappointments this year.

New York can never rebuild because every single person has their own idea of how to rebuild. We have a great offensive force in the middle, a great rebounder on the sider, an amazing swing defender and a good rebounder in Balkman but thats not enough because its not their way of rebuilding. Don't waste your time arguing, it will only aggravate you.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Shaq has done that his entire career. For his size, he is probably in my opinion one of the NBA's history worst defensive centers. He has always said that he had to concentrate on the offensive end and control the paint to keep teams honest. But I know Jackson has always complain about his defense, as well as Brian Hill. Stamina is the only issue that I could point to. To me that is what Curry suffers from as well. From the stories I heard about Wilt's defensive game was not all that impressive. I wonder how much do offensive "Big" men really do on the defensive end. I notice Dwight Howard is not effective when he tries to post up down low because he gets exhausted so quick, so I think he stays out of those situations on purpose. Chris Bosh has learned like KG and J O'Neal when to post up and when to pull the jumper without exhausting that much energy. That's why Curry is more effective when Marbury is playing at a high level. Curry needs to focus on the 15 jumper and improving his release on his jumper.