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King1
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2/19/2007  3:18 PM
First the organization is already in shambles and one of the worst ran in the NBA. Second I am saying if Lee isnt your 4 man of the future trade him and get a good player for him. If Lee is a role player then what is Frye? I dont care about respect, I care about him playing the position he would excel at in the NBA. I am saying it is smart for the Knicks to trade either Frye or Lee
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2/19/2007  3:30 PM
Posted by King1:

First the organization is already in shambles and one of the worst ran in the NBA. Second I am saying if Lee isnt your 4 man of the future trade him and get a good player for him. If Lee is a role player then what is Frye? I dont care about respect, I care about him playing the position he would excel at in the NBA. I am saying it is smart for the Knicks to trade either Frye or Lee

Well fortunately it's not up to you...I prefer to keep both because it may help the team more than any trade could do...Lee is great playing the role he is and has trouble guarding true power forwards because of his size...Frye is a scorer who could block a few shots from time to time...Isiah has not used him properly all year...That said, they both can thrive here and please stop trying to put these players against each other...If we trade Frye we would have to look for a starting PF tomorrow whether or not you like it...
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2/19/2007  3:32 PM
If we trade Frye we would have to look for a starting PF tomorrow whether or not you like it...
what sense does that make? Eddy Curry is our starting PF and Lee the first off the bench. What does trading Frye have anything to do with needing a new starting PF
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2/19/2007  3:41 PM
Posted by fishmike:
If we trade Frye we would have to look for a starting PF tomorrow whether or not you like it...
what sense does that make? Eddy Curry is our starting PF and Lee the first off the bench. What does trading Frye have anything to do with needing a new starting PF

ah, the Jerome James era.
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2/19/2007  4:54 PM
^^^ gotta love it right?
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2/19/2007  5:03 PM
what other starting center on this team has led us to a winning record? hmmmm?
King1
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2/19/2007  9:08 PM
Lee is thriving what is the almighty IT doing wrong with Frye?
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2/19/2007  10:01 PM
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and bench Jerome James! What are you crazy? JJ is averaging 2.4 and 1.6 - we can't afford to lose that.

Hell' if he gets a few more minutes under his belt, he might just threaten to average 3 points a game. I want every cent of those dollars that we gave him to count.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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2/19/2007  10:13 PM
Posted by holfresh:

If we trade Frye we would have to look for a starting PF tomorrow whether or not you like it...


why? frye isnt even our starting PF.
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2/19/2007  10:16 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by fishmike:
If we trade Frye we would have to look for a starting PF tomorrow whether or not you like it...
what sense does that make? Eddy Curry is our starting PF and Lee the first off the bench. What does trading Frye have anything to do with needing a new starting PF

ah, the Jerome James era.

oh Jackie B please come back

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Posted by SlimPack:
Posted by holfresh:

If we trade Frye we would have to look for a starting PF tomorrow whether or not you like it...


why? frye isnt even our starting PF.

Frye has upside, though most here forget that in half a season...He is the only guy who could possibly improve defensively on our roster to man the position...Lee is showing he is having difficulties playing the position defensively, mainly because of his size is my guess...We need a PF that can play a little defense next to Curry...Right now Curry isn't playing defense but he is a monster on the offensive end, so....Yeah we can go with Lee at the PF spot...But we won't improve as a team unless Curry steps up big time defensively...I could be wrong but I sincerely believe the Knicks win 5 more games with an interior defender at the Center or PF at different times this season...





[Edited by - holfresh on 02-19-2007 10:34 PM]
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2/19/2007  10:34 PM
Posted by holfresh:


Frye has upside, though most here forget that in half a season...He is the only guy who could possibly improve defensively on our roster to man the position...Lee is showing he is having difficulties playing the position defensively, mainly because of his size is my guess...We need a PF that can play a little defense next to Curry...Right now Curry isn't playing defense but he is a monster on the offensive end, so....Yeah we can go with Lee at the PF spot...But we won't improve as a team unless Curry steps up big time defensively...I could be wrong but I sincerely believe the Knicks win 5 more games with an interior at the Center or PF at different times this season...




the knicks needs a LOT of defense next to curry, which isn't frye or lee. but I think lee is the better overall player between the 2 right now. thats probably why he, and not frye, is the first PF off the bench when Jerome James picks up his 2 quick fouls.


[Edited by - Slimpack on 02-19-2007 10:57 PM]
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2/19/2007  10:35 PM
so if frye can play defense better than lee then why does IT trust Lee in the 4th quarter more than Frye. What your saying is IT has no idea what he is doing coaching?
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2/19/2007  10:36 PM
Posted by SlimPack:
Posted by holfresh:

e isnt even our starting PF.

Frye has upside, though most here forget that in half a season...He is the only guy who could possibly improve defensively on our roster to man the position...Lee is showing he is having difficulties playing the position defensively, mainly because of his size is my guess...We need a PF that can play a little defense next to Curry...Right now Curry isn't playing defense but he is a monster on the offensive end, so....Yeah we can go with Lee at the PF spot...But we won't improve as a team unless Curry steps up big time defensively...I could be wrong but I sincerely believe the Knicks win 5 more games with an interior at the Center or PF at different times this season...




the knicks needs a LOT of defense next to curry, which isn't frye or lee. but I think lee is the better overall player between the 2 right now. thats probably why he, and not frye, is the first PF off the bench when Jerome James picks up his 2 quick fouls.

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Well what is your goal, jsut trying to fill the slot or trying to win games and take this team to the next level...Do you honestly believe that Lee plays enough defense for us to run with him at starting PF...Maybe you think defense isn't important..
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2/19/2007  10:40 PM
Well leta see Frye started last year and played much more than Lee and they won 23 games. Lee plays a lot more than Frye this year and when he is on the floor the team is better. You say frey has upside that means he really hasnt accomplished or played up to his potential. Lee is playing out of position and with the exception of Bosh, and Okur who has destroyed Lee at the four compared to who has killed Frye. Lee is a second year player and he will become a better defender. Why dont you get on to Curry about playing no defense?
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2/19/2007  10:45 PM
Posted by King1:

Well leta see Frye started last year and played much more than Lee and they won 23 games. Lee plays a lot more than Frye this year and when he is on the floor the team is better. You say frey has upside that means he really hasnt accomplished or played up to his potential. Lee is playing out of position and with the exception of Bosh, and Okur who has destroyed Lee at the four compared to who has killed Frye. Lee is a second year player and he will become a better defender. Why dont you get on to Curry about playing no defense?

I do get on Curry but you don't notice because you have Lee tunnel vision...
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2/19/2007  10:48 PM
Curry is by far the worst defensive center in the league. If Frye or lee arent the ansewers at PF why wouldnt you trade them because in a couple of years they are both going to get hefty raises, and it will be starter money
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2/19/2007  10:56 PM
Posted by King1:

Curry is by far the worst defensive center in the league. If Frye or lee arent the ansewers at PF why wouldnt you trade them because in a couple of years they are both going to get hefty raises, and it will be starter money

Because, Because, Because they are young and still developing...They have not peaked yet...Why give another team a possible future all star when we can just wait to see how they develop...We are not in Championship contention are we...This is what rebuilding is like...Patients...
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2/19/2007  11:03 PM
Posted by holfresh:


Well what is your goal, jsut trying to fill the slot or trying to win games and take this team to the next level...Do you honestly believe that Lee plays enough defense for us to run with him at starting PF...Maybe you think defense isn't important..


my goal? you mean what would my goal be if i were coach/gm? something way different from what Isiah is doing, Its kind of too much to get into right now. anyway this franchise was never in the business of developing young players at the cost of wins so I don't know why you'd even expect isiah to start frye over lee even though lee is the better player right now because frye could be better in the future. and as for your last question, who cares? this team wasn't assembled to run.
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2/19/2007  11:06 PM
Posted by holfresh:



Because, Because, Because they are young and still developing...They have not peaked yet...Why give another team a possible future all star when we can just wait to see how they develop...We are not in Championship contention are we...This is what rebuilding is like...Patients...


we're not rebuilding.

[Edited by - Slimpack on 02-19-2007 11:06 PM]
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