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mythfaze
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2/21/2007  4:42 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Islesfan - "determined" as in playing tough dude

In my reference, "determined" does not describe a particular style on play (slow down, half court, uptempo, fast break) as much as a playing personality.

Knicks are playing with some heart

with some courage

and showing an ability to win games when they don't play particularly well, like last night

(unlike the celebrated Denver Nuggets, held up as an exemplary franchise by some, who have suddenly lost six games in a row with AI and Melo)

hey, the Knicks (Steve Francis assist to DLee) even made SportCenter Top Ten Plays

how cool is that?

I don't understand how the Knicks are tough and courageous for playing the way they should have played the entire game after digging themselves into a hole.
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2/21/2007  4:52 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Islesfan - are you happier when the Knicks lose?

I'm happier when Isiah is coaching the Pistons.

I'm happiest when Dolan no longer owns the Knicks.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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2/21/2007  4:54 PM
mythfaze - do you watch basketball games and study the trends... or the peaks and valleys that all teams go through?

What teams plays perfect for 48 minutes?

In my humble opinion, and the opinion of some others, Basketball is a game of "runs". The teams that can prevent major offensive runs from happening (ie. 12-15+ points in a bunch), or sustain runs in the clutch, are the teams that win.

I don't care if it's by 20 or by a point in triple-overtime. The win still looks the same in the standings.

My thesis is the Knicks are showing signs of playing better basketball over the last two months, with more cohesion down the stretch - and being able to hold together as a team when they face a deficit.

Are the Knicks perfect? Far from it. But anyone who is not encouraged by the subtle (yet apparent) signs of teamwork, and poise under pressure, is simply not watching the game.

The ability to mount a comeback is a beautiful thing.



[Edited by - misterearl on 02-21-2007 4:56 PM]
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2/21/2007  4:54 PM
Islesfan - are you happy when the Knicks lose?

c'mon, I won't tell anyone. It will be our little secret.
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2/21/2007  4:57 PM
>>I'm happiest when Dolan no longer owns the Knicks.

Islesfan - then you better switch teams because Dolan has no reason to go anywhere anytime soon.

Hey, you can always root for The Nets
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2/21/2007  4:58 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Islesfan - are you happy when the Knicks lose?

c'mon, I won't tell anyone. It will be our little secret.

Extremely misterearl. I can't control my giddyness and I almost pee myself.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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2/21/2007  5:00 PM
anyone who celebrates when the Knicks lose is a loser, and an enemy of all things orange and blue

a virus of the highest order

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2/21/2007  5:00 PM
Posted by misterearl:

mythfaze - do you watch basketball games and study the trends... or the peaks and valleys that all teams go through?

What teams plays perfect for 48 minutes?

In my humble opinion, and the opinion of some others, Basketball is a game of "runs". The teams that can prevent major offensive runs from happening (ie. 12-15+ points in a bunch), or sustain runs in the clutch, are the teams that win.

I don't care if it's by 20 or by a point in triple-overtime. The win still looks the same in the standings.

My thesis is the Knicks are showing signs of playing better basketball over the last two months, with more cohesive down the stretch and being able to hold together a s a team when they face a deficit.

Are the Knicks perfect? Far from it. But anyone who is not encouraged by the subtle (yet apparent) signs of teamwork, and poise under pressure, is simply not watching the game.

The ability to mount a comeback is a beautiful thing.

That's all well and good. My point wasn't that the Knicks should play perfect for 48 minutes, nor that being able to finally pull out victories in close games isn't encouraging.

It was that they really shouldn't receive too much credit for having no clue how to start games but still hanging in there at the end. "Congratulations, you've overcome your own ineptitude! What a champ! What heart and character!"
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2/21/2007  5:01 PM
Posted by misterearl:

anyone who celebrates when the Knicks lose is a loser

Actually, if you're rooting for the team that wins, that would make you a winner.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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2/21/2007  5:08 PM
>>Actually, if you're rooting for the team that wins, that would make you a winner.

Wrong again bandwagon breath. If you root for the team that wins it only means your association with that team makes your day a tiny bit more enjoyable in a few emotion-based brain cells.

If the nightly performance of a basketball, baseball, football or hockey team defines how you perceive of yourself as "winner", perhaps it's time to look at another hobby.

Once a loser, always a loser.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot... Go Knicks!

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2/21/2007  5:18 PM
Posted by misterearl:

>>Actually, if you're rooting for the team that wins, that would make you a winner.

Wrong again bandwagon breath. If you root for the team that wins it only means your association with that team makes your day a tiny bit more enjoyable in a few emotion-based brain cells.

If the nightly performance of a basketball, baseball, football or hockey team defines how you perceive of yourself as "winner", perhaps it's time to look at another hobby.

Once a loser, always a loser.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot... Go Knicks!

Umm, you're the one who's using a team's nightly performance to define how you perceive people as "losers", remember?
Posted by misterearl:
anyone who celebrates when the Knicks lose is a loser

Perhaps it's time for you to look at another hobby.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot... Fire Isiah!
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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2/21/2007  5:23 PM
Read my lips Islesfan - anyone who celebrates when the Knicks lose is a loser

The nightly performance is irrelvant

I NEVER, EVER celebrate when the Knicks lose.

I bleed orange and blue. This is my team, win or lose. It's been that way since I can remember. I am not disloyal. Dese guys may do things that drive me crazy, but they are still, and always will be, MY TEAM. Blue skies or stormy weather. Feast or famine. For better or for worse.

Always.

Sorry that is too difficult a concept for you to understand.



[Edited by - misterearl on 02-21-2007 5:24 PM]
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2/21/2007  5:43 PM
And if someone you cared about was following the wrong path and being led astray by someone of ill repute, I'm sure you'd just cheer them on and be happy about it.

Others choose to voice their displeasure in hope that things will be corrected.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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2/21/2007  6:21 PM
Say What?

>>And if someone you cared about was following the wrong path and being led astray by someone of ill repute, I'm sure you'd just cheer them on and be happy about it.

So, what you are implying is that following the "wrong" path, my beloved Knicks, is the same as being led astray?

Voicing displeasure is a wonderful freedom. I do not have a problem with voicing displeasure.

But why you gotta voice displeasure every second of every day, no matter if the Knicks shows signs of improvement or not?

No matter the evidence of guys pulling together and not being concerned with individual agendas.

No matter the result.

No matter the cheers getting louder in February in the same home areana where the boos dominated in November.

There were five Knicks in double figures, which means they shared the ball. There were too many turnovers, yes, but that can be fixed. They played defense enough to compensate for the extra points allowed by the turnovers. They won the won and we all know you play to win the game. Then you go have a beer and smile for a moment with your friends. You don't sit around bitching and moaning after a win. What is the point if all you do is complain?

Bah humbug, you say?

That is just mean



[Edited by - misterearl on 02-21-2007 6:30 PM]
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2/21/2007  10:13 PM
Evident Progress Isn't Failing to Show Up in Another Deflating Loss After a Good Win

Where have I heard that before?

Care to discuss misterearl?
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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