Posted by bigbeast:

TMS- I dont disagree with your assessment, the problem is, unlike most, I never fell for the idea that he was going to be the savior. Marbury never saved any franchise, so why would
I believe he would save a team loaded with Shandon, Spoon, etc.

Marbury is a nice piece to have, but he's no where near the main-piece like a Ewing would be. Anyone who believed he was going to be a savior is just not being realistic. Maburys best teams were barely above average at best so no way did I think his presence would raise a team with Spoon, Shandon, etc to the top of the Atlantic.

And as far as Ewing And Houston being able to lead thier teams to eastern conference contenders, well one thing they had in common was they had each other. Marbury never had anyone remotely close to Ewing or Houston to play with.

you're completely misunderstanding my post... i said i wanted him to play a main part in putting this organization back on the winning track & back to respectability... that doesn't mean i expected him to single handedly carry this franchise to the Finals... what i bought into when he came here was that he was going to rehabilitate his image in NY & become a team player for once in his life... yes, that part i was clearly wrong in & that's where the disappointment came in... i'm not disappointed we haven't won any titles or come close to it w/Marbury when he's been playing w/the likes of Spoon, Shandon & the rest his 1st season here... i already stated earlier that the 1st team he played on had no business being on the same court w/the Nets... for me, it's all in his attitude & his past failure to take on the mantle of a leader that he is just now beginning to do over the past 2 months... this is why i'm saying his improved play of recent days doesn't erase 2.5 years of disappointment... he's going to have to show me alot more of this & keep it going right into the playoffs for me to cut him the slack you all seem to think he deserves.

that's the last time i'm going to repeat myself on this thread... no offense to you bigbeast, but no one likes to be misquoted.

it also strikes me as funny that some others on this thread would call my expectation for Marbury to stop being a selfish player as being unrealistic & foolish when these are the same people trying to defend the guy.