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nyk4ever
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1/20/2007  4:45 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm sorry but Eddy Curry wasn't working hard on either side of the ball. I saw it, the people sitting next to me saw it and the people sitting behind me saw it. I tend to agree with Fish, I don't think he's in good enough shape to play hard on both sides of the ball and you CAN TELL when you are at the games watching this guy. We were all talking about it. It was the main topic of conversation.

I'm baffled at how people are so damn touchy about Eddy Curry. It's OK to critique players. It really is ok.

I agree that Curry is horrible on the defensive side of the ball. But the question for me is. Is it because he is out of shape?? Or is it the fact that he is trying to avoid fouls at all cost?? I think its the ladder. Becuase Curry last season & seasons past use to hit the players and then get quick fouls and get sent to the bench.

For me I feel Curry does not know how to challenge shots without fouling. And if the coaches make that the focal point and have him working on that with the same effort as they have done with his low post game. Then I think he could become decent at it.

I certainly think its a possibility NYNY. I think by now though he should have the confidence because of what he's doing offensively to give enough effort defensively and not have to worry about being called for fouls. It certainly could be a mix of both cases because I really do think he's out of shape for a NBA player, as Fish stated.
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1/20/2007  4:50 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Marv:

i used to say the same thing aboiut kvh's boards. he'd have good numbers but if you watched him youi'd see they were all right place/right time ones.

still, it's interesting about eddy's numbers. i'd certainly rather have 11 balls come to him than 3! it kills me when he plays a full game and can nonly come up with that many! so what accounts for the difference - did he stay closer to the action last night than in those games? were the other team's inside players that bad? how can only 3 "fall" to him one game and 11 another?

Probability theory?

"The probability that an event A occurs given the known occurrence of an event B is the conditional probability of A given B; its numerical value is (as long as P(B) is nonzero). If the conditional probability of A given B is the same as the ("unconditional") probability of A, then A and B are said to be independent events. That this relation between A and B is symmetric may be seen more readily by realizing that it is the same as saying when A and B are independent events."



[Edited by - basketballjones on 01-20-2007 16:17]

oh thanks man. of course that's the answer. where the Probability that eddy ate an Apple pie and a Burger together before a game is equal to the Probability that he separately ate an Apple pie and a Burger before the game.
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1/20/2007  5:11 PM
ray did you call me a racist? maybe it takes one to know one.. i wouldnt know. Maybe you were just having a low IQ moment. Who knows.

Curry collects rebounds because he played the most minutes and never leaves the paint. I'm sure you watched that from your TV. While guys like Frye, JJ, etc are further away from the basket.

The guy that really worked the glass last night was Q.

Good post... I guess liking Lee and critizing Curry for poor play = racist. I will keep that in mind
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1/20/2007  10:39 PM
on a side note looks like the ball didnt bounce Curry's way tonight eh?
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1/20/2007  10:43 PM
He got his rebounding quota in the 4th quarter when Lee knocked the ball off the rim toward him.
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1/20/2007  11:05 PM
Boy you guys don't let up.

Anyway if Curry only had to get a Board, I thnk we all would have been happy if it was the one Cliffy punched into the Basket on friday.
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1/20/2007  11:12 PM
Dwight Howard 1 point 3 rebs tonight vs NJ. He sucks. Its funny to see the lynchers do exactly as I said they would. Win or lose they just look to lynch Curry. They obviously root against the guy. Did He rebound well tonight? No but neither did Foster the starting center he played against. Who only had 3 rebs and 6 points. Looks to me curry won that battle easy. Meanwhile Curry was a major factor scoing 26 points on only 12 shots. Thats over 2 points per shot. Do they ever look at any of the positives? No they look for whatever way they can to get the noose. 11 rebs last night werent good enough.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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1/21/2007  12:13 AM
LOL, I know. The digital Lych-Curry mob strikes again!!!!!!!!!



Dwight Howard, Just Jump.
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1/21/2007  12:47 AM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Dwight Howard 1 point 3 rebs tonight vs NJ. He sucks. Its funny to see the lynchers do exactly as I said they would. Win or lose they just look to lynch Curry. They obviously root against the guy. Did He rebound well tonight? No but neither did Foster the starting center he played against. Who only had 3 rebs and 6 points. Looks to me curry won that battle easy. Meanwhile Curry was a major factor scoing 26 points on only 12 shots. Thats over 2 points per shot. Do they ever look at any of the positives? No they look for whatever way they can to get the noose. 11 rebs last night werent good enough.

Sorry Eddy. We didn't realized you read this board. Since you are reading and are taking these words so harshly, can you just jump next time?
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1/21/2007  12:54 AM
other people have voiced their concerns over the usage of the word "lynch". maybe we can continue the discussion without using the word just as a sign of courtesy.
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1/21/2007  1:14 AM
Curry is going to learn a lot from his playing time this season. He already has. He's getting the opportunity to play through some mistakes.

It's a shame that we lost, but the fact that Curry was in the game in the game was progress for him over last year. He'll need to understand that the Knicks need him to make plays even when his body is feeling fatigue. Heck, hopefully he'll learn to push himself just a little bit more, resulting in an occassional steal, block, or rebound.

The Nets got lucky and made a great play. We had 'em. We had the Wizards too... but as I've said before, this Knicks team is in the midst of learning how to execute in the clutch and make the little plays that mean the difference between wins and losses. I know some people keep talking about David Lee grabbing impact rebounds and Curry having invisible 20/10 nights.

Taking away his 20/10, the Knicks wouldn't be in a position to win the game in the first place. It is what it is. Curry contributes lots of great things for our team.

Lee puts up numbers, but teams don't change make special game plans to contain him (which contributes to his success). At this point, the book on stopping David Lee hasn't been written yet.
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1/21/2007  8:27 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Dwight Howard 1 point 3 rebs tonight vs NJ. He sucks. Its funny to see the lynchers do exactly as I said they would. Win or lose they just look to lynch Curry. They obviously root against the guy. Did He rebound well tonight? No but neither did Foster the starting center he played against. Who only had 3 rebs and 6 points. Looks to me curry won that battle easy. Meanwhile Curry was a major factor scoing 26 points on only 12 shots. Thats over 2 points per shot. Do they ever look at any of the positives? No they look for whatever way they can to get the noose. 11 rebs last night werent good enough.

Sorry Eddy. We didn't realized you read this board. Since you are reading and are taking these words so harshly, can you just jump next time?

HA!
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1/21/2007  10:58 AM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Dwight Howard 1 point 3 rebs tonight vs NJ. He sucks. Its funny to see the lynchers do exactly as I said they would. Win or lose they just look to lynch Curry. They obviously root against the guy. Did He rebound well tonight? No but neither did Foster the starting center he played against. Who only had 3 rebs and 6 points. Looks to me curry won that battle easy. Meanwhile Curry was a major factor scoing 26 points on only 12 shots. Thats over 2 points per shot. Do they ever look at any of the positives? No they look for whatever way they can to get the noose. 11 rebs last night werent good enough.
he had 6 boards in 25 minutes.

Do you ever listen to the positives? They have been said many times, but like most with your condition you hear what you want to hear.

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1/21/2007  11:10 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/story/486658p-409740c.html


This article sums up what most skeptics have been saying about Curry. No one has really doubted his offensive capabilities and him becoming a force but in order to be that Franchise Player, that true force in the paint, he has to play better defense. I will say he's been making some efforts of late to block shots.

This is what I think. I think Curry will be a great force in the middle and a great 'complement' player to a high scorer. And I beleive we are going to get a high scoring superstar in a couple of years. By that time some key contracts on this team will be ending, opening up that opportunity. Meanwhile, what we have now on this team, is going to get better and better and all we'll need is that one piece.

I see Curry more like the Big Ben or Rasheed type of player of the Knicks. He's not the complete center like a Shaq or KG or even a Duncan, but close, which would make him your better than average center and again, a pretty good compliment to a pure scoring all around player. But who knows, maybe Curry can surprise and make me into a liar.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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1/21/2007  11:13 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Fish is 100% right on Curry. He's out of shape for NBA basketball. He doesn't have the stamina to play hard on both ends of the court. He's been out of shape his whole career excluding contract years, which is a key reason I'm not optimistic about anything improving other than his low-post scoring.

We lost another one because of bad officiating. That is clearly a foul!!! The Knicks could easily won three in a row by now.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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