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oohah
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11/20/2006  5:01 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by oohah:
Posted by martin:
Posted by oohah:

Anyway, I am simply going to deal with the UK Mafia the way I deal with people of this type in the physical world. Disassociate myself from them.

Take it easy.

oohah

oohah, you can't win every argument, and you try to win each and every one you participate in. Better that you state your point and if others don't see your want, try again some other time. No one wins just because they have the last post. No need to respond to everything too.

Martin, who does not try to win all the arguments they participate in? How about Fishmike, Isles, Bippity? Do they try to win every argument? Do you? I think we all do! Some stated that I always think I am right. Who steps on a thread thinking they are wrong?

I don't care about the arguments. I don't care if it gets heated. I can do that and have no hard feelings. What I care about is the constant broaching of insult. And frankly, I wish you would do something about it, and I have to wonder why you don't, I mean it is in the rules! Not just for me, I can take care of myself, but it seems that there is so little basketball talked about these days!

I don't mean to cast something on you that isn't real, but it looks to me that you would have to settle down some of the oldest members and you seem reluctant.

The advice you just gave me, why don't you tell some of these other guys publicly that they need to stop insulting everyone who does not agree with them? That banding together against people (Not just me) is not a way to have a community? And that if they enter a thread, they should not be there just to needle people but to say something, give their opinion?

Maybe you are not seeing what I am seeing, but I am pretty sure others are, and again, I have to wonder why you aren't taking steps to quell that action, especially when it comes to simrud.

I mean this in the sincerest way.

oohah

Ooh ahh how can you not see that you sling personal insults with the best of them???

I generally don't respond to you bippity but this time I will. I sling personal insults better than the best of them. I know that. However, I don't initiate them. Big difference. And that by the way, is why I dno't respond to you. Every conversation we had very quickly became you instigating insulting speak and then I felt the need to respond. You've even done it in the time when I have ignored you.

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11/20/2006  5:02 PM
The strangest thing is that this thread has the same dudes coming at me that I am talking about. Nobody else.

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11/20/2006  5:05 PM


LOUD NOISES!!!

i mean seriously people...what would this guy think?

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11/20/2006  5:09 PM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by oohah:
Posted by martin:
Posted by oohah:

Anyway, I am simply going to deal with the UK Mafia the way I deal with people of this type in the physical world. Disassociate myself from them.

Take it easy.

oohah

oohah, you can't win every argument, and you try to win each and every one you participate in. Better that you state your point and if others don't see your want, try again some other time. No one wins just because they have the last post. No need to respond to everything too.

Martin, who does not try to win all the arguments they participate in? How about Fishmike, Isles, Bippity? Do they try to win every argument? Do you? I think we all do! Some stated that I always think I am right. Who steps on a thread thinking they are wrong?

I don't care about the arguments. I don't care if it gets heated. I can do that and have no hard feelings. What I care about is the constant broaching of insult. And frankly, I wish you would do something about it, and I have to wonder why you don't, I mean it is in the rules! Not just for me, I can take care of myself, but it seems that there is so little basketball talked about these days!

I don't mean to cast something on you that isn't real, but it looks to me that you would have to settle down some of the oldest members and you seem reluctant.

The advice you just gave me, why don't you tell some of these other guys publicly that they need to stop insulting everyone who does not agree with them? That banding together against people (Not just me) is not a way to have a community? And that if they enter a thread, they should not be there just to needle people but to say something, give their opinion?

Maybe you are not seeing what I am seeing, but I am pretty sure others are, and again, I have to wonder why you aren't taking steps to quell that action, especially when it comes to simrud.

I mean this in the sincerest way.

oohah

Ooh ahh how can you not see that you sling personal insults with the best of them???

I generally don't respond to you bippity but this time I will. I sling personal insults better than the best of them. I know that. However, I don't initiate them. Big difference. And that by the way, is why I dno't respond to you. Every conversation we had very quickly became you instigating insulting speak and then I felt the need to respond. You've even done it in the time when I have ignored you.

oohah

I agree I am normally very sarcastic towards you. I think I attacked you personally once and when you pointed it out I apologized. Other than that it's been all sarcasm that you just can't seem to take. And no I do not apologize for sarcasm.

I only have one beef with you and that has never changed. You used to quote me consistently on things that Fishmike or Isles or someone else you are arguing with said. Seeing myself misquoted or having points dismissed because "you know what I really mean" is annoying. Other than that the problem is more you with me than me with you, and to be totally honest with you,I am devestated by that.

If you can't take sarcasm you can't survive on a message board. Nobody's out to get you guy, you just feel that way.

[Edited by - bippity10 on 11-20-2006 5:11 PM]

[Edited by - bippity10 on 11-20-2006 5:11 PM]
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11/20/2006  5:18 PM
Posted by oohah:

Yes, as I Recall, you told me to not read or respond to your threads and I in return commanded you not to read mine. Think back Evil, do you remember a few weeks ago when I was arguing with Joe and you just jumped in to instigate with me? Did something similar to that happen this weekend or did I come after you? Who started in with the you disappear stuff? Who came after who Evil?

Now you have stepped up with insults and more above. You just piled on with the rest of the usual suspects. At the very least why not deal with me man to man, not your posse Vs. Me?

I guess it is very easy to excuse yourself, but perhaps it might be more helpful to examine your behavior.

Now you may go ahead and insult me as much as you please if it makes you feel better.

oohah

The way it seems to me, you are taking things way too personally. I told you that you disappear after losses -- right or wrong, that's not the worst thing you can say to someone. When people were chillin' at the Park Ave Country Club, I said the same thing to HARDCORE who was sitting right next to me. And we (including him) all had a hearty laugh over it. But when I say it to you, you respond that I should go look up your history of posting on this board to back it up. It's not that serious.

I bring up a point that if you came through to any of the get-togethers that you would see that the "haters" are true fans. You take it to mean that the real test of a true fan is to be at the games. Yeah, I guess maybe, if you really wanted to read into my comment, you might be able to say that I was implying that. But when I clarified what I really meant, you refused to acknowledge it and you basically just harped on my original statement which was misconstrued (and probably poorly communicated on my part). On top of that, you post that you like to sit in floor seats or whatever. Who asked you? That type of response reeks of insecurity. That's why I said you seem like you have low self-esteem. It's the same as when RV said that he had season tickets courtside.

Anyway, I think that a few posters have posted some very good advice for you. You should take what they say seriously. And remember, if you want to be so ubiquitous you are going to draw a lot of attention. Your style is contributing to people's reactions to you. You sign all your posts. It says your name right next to the post anyway, you really don't need to sign them. It's all part of some caricature you have tried to develop. Which leads me to wonder why you take things so personally when your personality on this board is so obviously over the top. There's no way you can be like this is real life. And if you are, I guess that explains why you couldn't figure out that the lack of posters on a Saturday night has more to do with people having real active social lives than it has to do with any sort of hate that people have for the Knicks winning.
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11/20/2006  5:33 PM
Oohah, you have way too many posts in this single thread. It was a good conversation, but you went insane.

I'll get back to Killa later, when I have a little more time.
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11/20/2006  5:40 PM
The way it seems to me, you are taking things way too personally. I told you that you disappear after losses -- right or wrong, that's not the worst thing you can say to someone. When people were chillin' at the Park Ave Country Club, I said the same thing to HARDCORE who was sitting right next to me. And we (including him) all had a hearty laugh over it. But when I say it to you, you respond that I should go look up your history of posting on this board to back it up. It's not that serious.

Evil, you usually seem like an allright guy to me. Like silver said: use a smiley. You may be cracking up at your keyboard typing f!ck you, but that does not come through in the post. However, that was not the only thing you said that night. And then we had the history where you insulted my intelligence on a thread where you just jumped in while I was discussing with Joe.

Turn the situation around. Maybe you would not react like me but would you care for what you posted in any of those situations if it was me doing it to you?
I bring up a point that if you came through to any of the get-togethers that you would see that the "haters" are true fans. You take it to mean that the real test of a true fan is to be at the games. Yeah, I guess maybe, if you really wanted to read into my comment, you might be able to say that I was implying that. But when I clarified what I really meant, you refused to acknowledge it and you basically just harped on my original statement which was misconstrued (and probably poorly communicated on my part). On top of that, you post that you like to sit in floor seats or whatever. Who asked you? That type of response reeks of insecurity. That's why I said you seem like you have low self-esteem. It's the same as when RV said that he had season tickets courtside.

The way I took that, after the first 2 initial insults is that the "real fans" go to the UK get togethers etc. I found that obnoxious. So I responded in kind with the floor seats comment. Would you do the same thing? And after that point you clarified yourself, but you did not stop the back and forth with me.
Anyway, I think that a few posters have posted some very good advice for you. You should take what they say seriously. And remember, if you want to be so ubiquitous you are going to draw a lot of attention. Your style is contributing to people's reactions to you. You sign all your posts. It says your name right next to the post anyway, you really don't need to sign them. It's all part of some caricature you have tried to develop. Which leads me to wonder why you take things so personally when your personality on this board is so obviously over the top. There's no way you can be like this is real life. And if you are, I guess that explains why you couldn't figure out that the lack of posters on a Saturday night has more to do with people having real active social lives than it has to do with any sort of hate that people have for the Knicks winning.

Over the top? Maybe. But doesn't that make me an average joe around here? Half the guys are over the top! But I do not initiate insults. That is different from over the top, and anyone being over the top is a poor excuse to insult them. Furthermore, the same 5-6 guys I am speaking about don't just do it to me. I was never talking about just me. I was talking about the way things have been nasty around here in general, and I am not the only one to point it out, many have before me.

Now I want to tell you why I sign every post:

1) Searching! This board has no search feature. When one shows up, if one shows up, I don't know if it will allow a search by username. I will always be able to find my posts. I might figure out a way to search it first, and I will always be able to find my posts.

2) My father was a newspaper editor and my mother a teacher. I write in a letter form frequently. I was taught to put my name at the bottom of what I write. This is a habit and it serves me well in the real world.

Sop you see, your perception of why I sign my posts are completely different from the real reason. This perception of what it means to others speaks volumes to me, but it has nothing to do with why I do it.

oohah

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11/20/2006  5:41 PM
Posted by Solace:

Oohah, you have way too many posts in this single thread. It was a good conversation, but you went insane.

I'll get back to Killa later, when I have a little more time.

That is because as usual, I am dealing with the same 5-6 guys.

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11/20/2006  5:50 PM
Snit Vomit was just plain cool! Immature? Read the "Chronicles of Bonn" and you'll understand.

Perhaps its time you leave if you can't take a little machismo bantering. DJ, Marv and me were howling a few weeks ago IN PERSON over this site and how much fun we have. This is a good group of dudes and for the most part very cool.

I would have to agree that you do argue to the extreme and look for allies often. This forum has amazed me in terms of sensitivity.

Reminds me of when Bonn left. He did not like the treatment. After all that went on it was a little tiny incident that pushed him away.

This is a volunatry place. WE mostly behave and talk hoops. Its also a place for humor. Laugh and make others laugh. ITs entertainment, and we choose to participate, troll, or just pass on various subjects.

IF you don't like the racist stuff, thats a cause for a legitimate beef. I have been out of line and when called out, I apoligize and backup. Do you?

If you feel like your getting piled on perhaps you might want to consider the perspective that might flame a mafia intervention.

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11/20/2006  5:58 PM
Snit Vomit was just plain cool! Immature? Read the "Chronicles of Bonn" and you'll understand.

Perhaps its time you leave if you can't take a little machismo bantering. DJ, Marv and me were howling a few weeks ago IN PERSON over this site and how much fun we have. This is a good group of dudes and for the most part very cool.

I would have to agree that you do argue to the extreme and look for allies often. This forum has amazed me in terms of sensitivity.

I am not sure if you are saying that I look for Allies or not Nalod. I never do. I argue all by my lonesome.
Reminds me of when Bonn left. He did not like the treatment. After all that went on it was a little tiny incident that pushed him away.

This is a volunatry place. WE mostly behave and talk hoops. Its also a place for humor. Laugh and make others laugh. ITs entertainment, and we choose to participate, troll, or just pass on various subjects.


My initial post on this thread had little to do with me, but with a general lessening of manners that I have observed. I don't agree with your assessment of the Bonn situation. About 5-6 guys around here don't know the end of a joke.
IF you don't like the racist stuff, thats a cause for a legitimate beef. I have been out of line and when called out, I apoligize and backup. Do you?

Again, I am not sure if you are addressing me. I have not made racist comments on this forum. I did call you out on your Arab comments once, then you apologized, and then made some more.
If you feel like your getting piled on perhaps you might want to consider the perspective that might flame a mafia intervention.

I don't get you. But there is no feeling to it. It is the same 5-6 guys and this can be easily observed in this thread and my JJ thread.
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And that is what I want to do. Talk Knicks. Not tade insults.

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11/20/2006  6:13 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

I've never seen that. David Lee is beast plain and simple, I don't know how anyone could say that.
I'd love to read those threads if you could link them.

I'll do a search later, when I get a chance.
Posted by Killa4luv:

But on another note, I have to take what you are saying with a grain of salt. I had a thread where I said that in Nash's MVP selection, race was a factor. I don't remember who exactly but I want to say you and NYK4ever, were characterizing my argument as: he only won it because he's white. I could be wrong about you being involved, but thats definitely what happened.

Pardon? I vaguely remember the claims you made in the thread, but I will comment no further on it, as it is a dead issue, in my mind.
Posted by Killa4luv:

But on another note, I have to take what you are saying with a grain of salt.

Likewise.
Lastly, what you are talking about is not racism. Why? Some people's support for D.Lee and LB does comes in part because they are white and in LB's case, Jewish. Thats just a reality and theres nothing. Thats really no big deal. Its like me liking a player or entertainer because they're from Harlem and so am I. People identify with people who look like them. It only becomes a problem when this mentality goes into law-enforcement, or housing, etc. when you are having an impact on the quality of people's lives, their ability to earn a living and stuff like that. But to pretend that we are color blind is foolish. Part of the reason I like Steph is because hes black and from the ghetto, like me. I like his aggressive style of play, which I connect to him coming from where hes from. He goes against the odds and goes hard (well, he used to) and those are things I can identify with being from Harlem. Theres nothing wrong with that. Do I just like him because hes black? No, most of the NBA is black and I don't like them all, but is his blackness a factor? Yes. Same as his background is a factor but the determining factor above and beyond all of those things is how he plays. It just seems that whenever race or ethnicity is brought into the picture no one can see nuance.
[Edited by - killa4luv on 11-20-2006 11:32 AM]

Okay, so you see nothing wrong with saying that someone ONLY likes a player because they're white? The word only is key. Furthermore, if *I* say, that I'm very fond of a certain player because I can relate to him is VASTLY DIFFERENT than someone else telling me that I ONLY like a player because of his skin color. The first is a personal preference, and yes, personal biases are a part of life. The second is a form of racism and a very nasty form of stereotyping someone. Point being... if you want to know why someone likes something, ask, don't tell. Agreed?
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11/20/2006  6:42 PM
Posted by oohah:
But I do not initiate insults.
except today, which I clearly documented. Its cool though... we wont count that.

Its funny... oohah. Look at what evil wrote to you. It was clear, uninsulting and he explained why he said things. All that and your response was still about you being right.

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11/20/2006  6:55 PM
except today, which I clearly documented. Its cool though... we wont count that.

We won't count that because it isn't true. It is a continuation of last night.
Its funny... oohah. Look at what evil wrote to you. It was clear, uninsulting and he explained why he said things. All that and your response was still about you being right.

That is an interesting interpretation. What Evil wrote was clear and uninsulting, yes. And is was it also about how he was right or in general how it may be understandable to come after people who are "over the top".

So you see, fishmike, every post is about how somebody thinks they are right.

The general message I am getting is that if somebody sticks to their guns and the majority does not agree with them, they should be prepared to face endless sarcasm and insults. However, once the situation has been escalated, they should not under any circumstance reply and/or escalate on their own.

Is that about right?

I think you are over the top fishmike, is it okay for people to come after you?

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11/20/2006  7:20 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Killa4luv:

I've never seen that. David Lee is beast plain and simple, I don't know how anyone could say that.
I'd love to read those threads if you could link them.

I'll do a search later, when I get a chance.

You're probably referring to this thread where some obnoxious poster referred to David Lee as a "token white boy".

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=17288


[Edited by - basketballjones on 11-20-2006 19:21]
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11/20/2006  7:40 PM
Posted by oohah:

Evil, you usually seem like an allright guy to me.

Thanks.

I'm afraid of dragging this on, but I wanted to bring up something that I think is leading to much of your frustration, Oohah. This whole fixation on being right is taking the fun out of things. Most of the debates on this board revolve around unanswered questions: would the team be better without Marbury? Could LB have turned it around in year two? Can Frye become an all-star? Will Isiah's coaching be effective?

There are no right or wrong answers to these questions. There are only opinions. Granted, you can back your opinion up and have a strong opinion, or you can just lay it out there and have a weak opinion, but no matter what -- it's just an opinion and even the strongest one may not be right. You have to expect that the more emphatic you are about your opinion being right -- the more of a response you will get from the UK Mafia. It's not personal at all. It's just that the more you "hang your ass out there" the more of a chance your ass is gonna get smacked. But don't take that to mean that you shouldn't put yourself out there. Just know that when you demand attention -- you will get it in all forms.

If you are posting with the intention of always being right, you are cheating yourself by having unfair expectations. We're not talking math or science here. We're fans talking about basketball. I'm here for entertainment. Every so often, someone drops some bball knowledge that makes me reconsider my own opinion. It's through this type of discourse that you can gain something.

I think you'll have more fun if you just loosen up a bit. It may surprise you, but Me and Fish coexist just fine with Killa despite being on the extreme opposite side of many arguments with him. If you think he's a cool dude on this board, you gotta catch him in person -- the dude will make you laugh.

I'm not here to be right. Honestly, if I'm right -- this team is gonna suck for at least 2 more years -- as hard as it might be for you to believe, I don't want that.
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11/20/2006  8:04 PM
Posted by eViL:

[quote]Posted by oohah:


Every so often, someone drops some bball knowledge that makes me reconsider my own opinion. It's through this type of discourse that you can gain something.

My guess is he's talking about Bip
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11/20/2006  8:06 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

My guess is he's talking about Bip

Who's she?
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11/20/2006  8:16 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

I think things have gone too far and there needs to be some STRICT rules set forth and enforced.
These rules really should be common sense, but since some people seem to be lacking in that area, maybe it needs to be spelled out for them.
1. No RACISM!!!!- Period. No it is not okay to call someone a nigger, even if it is in a roundabout way, using a chis rock sketch as a cover. It is not ok. That so many people saw that thread and chose to say nothing speakins volumes about the cowardice of many of you on this site.

i just wanted to sincerely apologize to anyone who i may have offended when i posted a link to the youtube sketch on Dave Chappelle's show about the Race Draft a few weeks back. being a minority myself who's race was also ridiculed & stereotyped in the same sketch, I thought it might be taken in a purely comical manner... i'm not sure if this is the thread Killa is referring to, but obviously i was wrong, & i'll be the first to own up to it. anyone who's posted w/me in the past knows that i'm particularly sensitive to racist posts of any kind, but i felt this sketch was making fun of racist points of view, not trying to perpetuate them.

anyways, my bad Killa... hope there's no hard feelings... & sorry to martin & Andrew for posting it on your forum.



[Edited by - TMS on 11-20-2006 8:16 PM]
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11/20/2006  8:18 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by islesfan:

I think Andrew and Martin do a good job moderating their board. When things get out of hand they take care of it.

Can we all be a little more mature and lighten up a little bit? Yeah probably but I don't think things have reached a crisis point or anything close.

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11/20/2006  9:27 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Killa4luv:

I think things have gone too far and there needs to be some STRICT rules set forth and enforced.
These rules really should be common sense, but since some people seem to be lacking in that area, maybe it needs to be spelled out for them.
1. No RACISM!!!!- Period. No it is not okay to call someone a nigger, even if it is in a roundabout way, using a chis rock sketch as a cover. It is not ok. That so many people saw that thread and chose to say nothing speakins volumes about the cowardice of many of you on this site.

i just wanted to sincerely apologize to anyone who i may have offended when i posted a link to the youtube sketch on Dave Chappelle's show about the Race Draft a few weeks back. being a minority myself who's race was also ridiculed & stereotyped in the same sketch, I thought it might be taken in a purely comical manner... i'm not sure if this is the thread Killa is referring to, but obviously i was wrong, & i'll be the first to own up to it. anyone who's posted w/me in the past knows that i'm particularly sensitive to racist posts of any kind, but i felt this sketch was making fun of racist points of view, not trying to perpetuate them.

anyways, my bad Killa... hope there's no hard feelings... & sorry to martin & Andrew for posting it on your forum.



[Edited by - TMS on 11-20-2006 8:16 PM]

I enjoyed the sketch.
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