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10/18/2006  10:50 PM
I'm with IT on this issue. Why shouldn't IT be able to speak his mind like everyone here or on TV? Why should we take a guard with 4 guards on the team already? IT drafted for need not popularity and after seeing this kid play, I'm comfortable with it. I like the direction the team is going in now. I like the offense and I really like the fact that the team is buying into it. Even Marbury and Francis who 90% hate here are fitting their games into the system. Curry looks good, the kids look good and I only expect it to get better. Hate on IT, hate on Marbury...you're only wasting your breath. The Knicks will be good with the team IT assembled and the team he coaches. That must really get your haters goat.
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10/18/2006  10:51 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by holfresh:
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Posted by Elite:

[quote]a serious lotteryb talent with the best passing ability I have seen since Magic Johnson.

yo briggs you say some obserd **** sometimes

Ive been watching basketball for over 30 years. Marcus Williams is the best instictive passer I have seen since Magic Johnson. What is absurd about that? Ive seen him play 50+ times--this is not like giving the ball to karl malone 20 times a game or padding stats playing up tempo--this guy is a unique talent from a passing perspective.


Better than Paul? as well?


Chris Paul is a different type of PG. He uses his extreme quickness and speed to set up his game. He has more of an all-around game/[i.e defense] talent because of his physical abilities, but Marcus is the first guy I can remember other than J Kidd and Magic who is dangerous at 94 feet and in with the ability to see the whole court and excute a pass from anywhere. Im not saying he's the best PG since Magic, Im saying he's on par with Magic and J Kidd in the passing dept.

How about that Nash guy?
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10/18/2006  10:59 PM
it is funny, had balkman, lee, frye, crawford been on another team, we would be in here salavating at the other teams young talent and complaining why we don't have young horses in the stable like that. I am not saying IT has not created somewhat of a mess, but I will give him the chance to correct this mess with the players he chose. I agree with IT, greg anthony needs to shut up and I like Greg, but this is bad timing and piling on. IT put a foot in his azz and I say good...
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10/18/2006  11:38 PM
Isiah made a huge mistake passing on Marcus Williams. Greg Anthony was one of many shocked by the pick of Balkman. Jay Bilas was much more outspoken during the draft. I am not sure why Anthony was targeted. I know I was extremely upset and could not find a single supporter of the pick. The fact that Balkman appears to be worthy of a first round pick is huge and a credit to Isiah. However, I see Williams as having alot more upside and the potential to be a star for along time. My guess is that Isiah would have been able to select Balkman with the 29th. I have to say that Balkman has surprised me and is one of my favorite Knicks and I am glad he is on the team.
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10/18/2006  11:49 PM
plenty of teams passed on marcus - and they all made a mistake- he looks like a stud.

I can't fault Isiah for passing and you've got to give him credit for taking a chance and grabbing balkman where he did- it was a ballsy move.

I'm less worried about players we could have picked, but didn't and more worried about the ones we did.

Isiah should take the high road, and let sleeping dogs lie.
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10/18/2006  11:50 PM
Posted by CrushAlot:

Isiah made a huge mistake passing on Marcus Williams. Greg Anthony was one of many shocked by the pick of Balkman. Jay Bilas was much more outspoken during the draft. I am not sure why Anthony was targeted. I know I was extremely upset and could not find a single supporter of the pick. The fact that Balkman appears to be worthy of a first round pick is huge and a credit to Isiah. However, I see Williams as having alot more upside and the potential to be a star for along time. My guess is that Isiah would have been able to select Balkman with the 29th. I have to say that Balkman has surprised me and is one of my favorite Knicks and I am glad he is on the team.

I agree. Zeke was way way way out of bounds going after Anthony. LOL Zeke you were booed by New Yorkers so yes others New Yorkers thought like Anthony and many still do. Balkman may turn out to be a good player but Marcus more than likely will be better.
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10/19/2006  12:04 AM
ugh. Embarrassing stuff from IT...

The Marcus Williams stuff is old though. If we did draft Marcus we'd likely have just as many people complaining how it didn't make sense and we have such a PG glut, etc. Folks will always find things to complain about. I'll be happy to just judge Balkman on his own merit and not worry about hypotheticals.
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10/19/2006  12:05 AM
Boy if Isiah goes to such extremes when he doesn't like what commentators have to say imagine what he'd do to a Knick coach or marketing executive if he didn't like what they said...

Speaking of, I wonder what the new MSG promotions will be like this year. They sucked last year with those cardboard cutouts. We can thank Isiah for that, seeing how he wouldn't make the players available to Anuscha, possibly even for personal reasons.
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10/19/2006  12:06 AM
I wouldnt be complaining if we had Marcus Williams or Rondo. Both have looked pretty talented so far.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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10/19/2006  12:08 AM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

LOL I think Isiah is still mad that Mark Jackson and Greg Anthony ended his playoff career by holding him to 34% shooting for 5 games. :)

That's funny! Your going to hit him when he's at the end of his career? Anyone can reem an old folgy when they're down. Look at jordan! He turned out to be a bum and the Knicks got last laugh on him.
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10/19/2006  12:11 AM
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BTW, when are people gonna realise the Knicks weren't taking Williams over character concerns? He wasn't on their board.

What?!? How does that explain Q. Woods???
I'll tell ya how. MSG had that big sexual harrasment suit last year, that's how. They weren't gonna take anymore chances on anyone.
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10/19/2006  12:21 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=An_EYPoA1uqRUBdbpSlxO0G8vLYF?slug=cnnsi-isiahtakesespna&prov=cnnsi&type=lgns


All I have to say is this. I take Greg Anthony's side. Greg--like many other Knick fans have grown WEARY of the disaster called the Ny knicks. Greg Anthony wasn't wrong--I remember he wanted us to pick Marcus Williams and that shouldve been our pick. No one was picking Balkman before 29. And no matterw aht Marcus Williams is a superior player to Balkman, a serious lotteryb talent with the best passing ability I have seen since Magic Johnson. yeah he has a little Marc Jackson in him, but unlike Mark, he can really shoot it and has a crafty and quick 1st step that i watched him use on every knick guard including nate to free himself at will. Balkman looks good so far, but he's not the second coming here. Was it wrong for Greg to speak out? Not from where I wa standing, greg is a Knick, IT hasnt proven to be more than a low-class media whore who--after a slight stretch of good play in pre-season against teams without the stars has the audacity to speak out against someone else. No isiah, you are the Knick poser until proven otherwise.


I think anthony should keep his big fat nose out of it! Zeke's got two rings, built up a couple of teams with picks and is doing just fine right now, and what has antony brought to us?

Why would we go get yet 'another' guard when we already had four to five quality guards, especially with them all locked up in contract? IT told us that the Suns were talking about picking up Balkman so he says that's why he took him. You have to believe why he picked him up, if he says that's what happened. Besides, Balkman is gettting good points from the fans and is looking very promising. But I think Collins is going to be great for us in a couple of years, especially when 'leaders' contract is over and done with. A big guard, who can play D and score some points, as well as pass. I like this kids person. He's calm and steady and he'll grow into this organization as time goes on. You guyys got to remember something here. We have a lot of kids on this team who are going to grow up together, who 'are' growing up together. Not the usual 'go after a free agent and pay him millions in hopes they do something special for us'! Not the case at all. The future is in the kids. I beleive Zeke tried the first experiment of bringing us vets as starbury, James, the Rose brother's, Taylor. Total failure. Now he's concentrating on the rooks and they are responding. That's what I call back-up plan 'B'!
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10/19/2006  12:34 AM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

LOL I think Isiah is still mad that Mark Jackson and Greg Anthony ended his playoff career by holding him to 34% shooting for 5 games. :)

That's funny! Your going to hit him when he's at the end of his career? Anyone can reem an old folgy when they're down. Look at jordan! He turned out to be a bum and the Knicks got last laugh on him.


LOL in 1992 he was an old fogey? Thats only 2 years after he was winning the NBA finals. Isiah was 29-30 years old. Jordan averaged 32.6ppg at 29 years old
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10/19/2006  12:37 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:

Boy if Isiah goes to such extremes when he doesn't like what commentators have to say imagine what he'd do to a Knick coach or marketing executive if he didn't like what they said...

Speaking of, I wonder what the new MSG promotions will be like this year. They sucked last year with those cardboard cutouts. We can thank Isiah for that, seeing how he wouldn't make the players available to Anuscha, possibly even for personal reasons.

I think it's comical that Zeke is talking stuff after 3 Summer League Post-Season games. It's not like Balkman has blown away the competition this pre-season avg 8pts and 5reb/gm.



[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 10-18-2006 11:38 PM]
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10/19/2006  12:41 AM
Zeke and the Pistons were already starting to go down the ladder by then, yes, even at the age of 30. It wasn't really Zeke alone though that brought the franchise to a halt. Lambier, if I remember correctly was close to calling it quits, Rodman was losing it, Dumars was also on a downside in his career. Even Mark McGuire, who turned out to be a key to those championships spent many seasons already to finally get to that point and that is what happened. They took all of those years just to get to those two champiionships, but the point is, they did it and so there was nothing more to prove, not unless you want to compare antony to Zeke?

As far as that piece of crap jordan, I said what I wanted to about him. He was just an idiot who thought he could be a star at baseball and be a star at the age of 40.
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10/19/2006  12:48 AM
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by BlueSeats:

Boy if Isiah goes to such extremes when he doesn't like what commentators have to say imagine what he'd do to a Knick coach or marketing executive if he didn't like what they said...

Speaking of, I wonder what the new MSG promotions will be like this year. They sucked last year with those cardboard cutouts. We can thank Isiah for that, seeing how he wouldn't make the players available to Anuscha, possibly even for personal reasons.

I think it's comical that Zeke is talking stuff after 3 Summer League Post-Season games. It's not like Balkman has blown away the competition this pre-season avg 8pts and 5reb/gm.



[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 10-18-2006 11:38 PM]

Ahhhhhh, did we forget to mention that he's averaging those numbers in just under 20 minutes a game, 17 minutes a game, to be exact?!!! Yes?! Not bad for a Zeke pick huh?
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10/19/2006  12:49 AM
The only head to head matchup I remember was 29 or 30 year old Isiah who averaged around 19ppg that season going against a rookie Greg Anthony and Anthony shutting him down pretty well. Isiah shot 34% in those 1992 playoffs. Greg Anthony was far from a star but he could defend very well.
I will stay on the side that was wearing the Knicks uniform. :)
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10/19/2006  12:52 AM
This Balkman-Williams talk make no sense
IT has Marbs and takin Williams was a contradictions to everything IT did.
So he sad A by building around Marbs, tnah he sad B by not drafting Williams.
Now we will see how it will work out.
IT will be exposed no metter what.
His Agurre comments its another indication how tentative he is inside.
He knows bball and he can see what this group af players can do. He see the writings on the wall and freeking out.

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10/19/2006  12:54 AM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

The only head to head matchup I remember was 29 or 30 year old Isiah who averaged around 19ppg that season going against a rookie Greg Anthony and Anthony shutting him down pretty well. Isiah shot 34% in those 1992 playoffs. Greg Anthony was far from a star but he could defend very well.
I will stay on the side that was wearing the Knicks uniform. :)

Obviosly, I never did like antony in the Orange and Blue, and was a big fan of Zeke in his days.

I sure wished antony played that way for us all of the time. His D didn't really add up to much.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/19/2006  1:25 AM
did any of you READ what Briggs said? He said PASSING ABILITY. Thats it. If I said Balkman reminds me of Marion the way he rebounds the ball do you hear "Balkman is as good as Marion" ????

Anyway I agree with Greg 100%

Isiah, your team won 26 games. You have brought shame and excuses to this franchise. But I guess with Balkman having a couple good preseason games its all water under the bridge and you can go back to talking about titles
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