Breathless is not a good sign. While Curry's doctor could have all of his cardiovasulcar tests within *normal limits* and I bet that at his size what is normal is up for debate---he still may not have anywhere near the heart function or blood flow of many other nba players at *NBA exertion*. If I had to guess, his left ventricle is large with thickened walls--which causes his symptoms syncope breathlessness fatigue etc...because his baseline cannot be measured against *normal sized people* they rely more on what they see in terms of fucntion and blood flow in a very controlled atmosphere. That atmosphere will NEVER be doing multiple sprints or at NBA level exertion. It will be controlled on a treadmill which isnt the same. Let's pray to God first that EC is OK as a human and that his doctor[s] is/are going overboard with him to make sure he is OK.
Nonethless like LB and other players IT has brought in, there was reasonable warning against it--so any health problems affecting his play falls on deaf ears.
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Breathless is not a good sign. While Curry's doctor could have all of his cardiovasulcar tests within *normal limits* and I bet that at his size what is normal is up for debate---he still may not have anywhere near the heart function or blood flow of many other nba players at *NBA exertion*. If I had to guess, his left ventricle is large with thickened walls--which causes his symptoms syncope breathlessness fatigue etc...because his baseline cannot be measured against *normal sized people* they rely more on what they see in terms of fucntion and blood flow in a very controlled atmosphere. That atmosphere will NEVER be doing multiple sprints or at NBA level exertion. It will be controlled on a treadmill which isnt the same. Let's pray to God first that EC is OK as a human and that his doctor[s] is/are going overboard with him to make sure he is OK.
Nonethless like LB and other players IT has brought in, there was reasonable warning against it--so any health problems affecting his play falls on deaf ears.
didnt he play an entire NBA season last season?
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Breathless is not a good sign. While Curry's doctor could have all of his cardiovasulcar tests within *normal limits* and I bet that at his size what is normal is up for debate---he still may not have anywhere near the heart function or blood flow of many other nba players at *NBA exertion*. If I had to guess, his left ventricle is large with thickened walls--which causes his symptoms syncope breathlessness fatigue etc...because his baseline cannot be measured against *normal sized people* they rely more on what they see in terms of fucntion and blood flow in a very controlled atmosphere. That atmosphere will NEVER be doing multiple sprints or at NBA level exertion. It will be controlled on a treadmill which isnt the same. Let's pray to God first that EC is OK as a human and that his doctor[s] is/are going overboard with him to make sure he is OK.
Nonethless like LB and other players IT has brought in, there was reasonable warning against it--so any health problems affecting his play falls on deaf ears.
didnt he play an entire NBA season last season?
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Breathless is not a good sign. While Curry's doctor could have all of his cardiovasulcar tests within *normal limits* and I bet that at his size what is normal is up for debate---he still may not have anywhere near the heart function or blood flow of many other nba players at *NBA exertion*. If I had to guess, his left ventricle is large with thickened walls--which causes his symptoms syncope breathlessness fatigue etc...because his baseline cannot be measured against *normal sized people* they rely more on what they see in terms of fucntion and blood flow in a very controlled atmosphere. That atmosphere will NEVER be doing multiple sprints or at NBA level exertion. It will be controlled on a treadmill which isnt the same. Let's pray to God first that EC is OK as a human and that his doctor[s] is/are going overboard with him to make sure he is OK.
Nonethless like LB and other players IT has brought in, there was reasonable warning against it--so any health problems affecting his play falls on deaf ears.
didnt he play an entire NBA season last season?
Yeah, poorly
yeah but its not like he had to miss games due to heart problems or anything.
[Edited by - slimpack on 10-04-2006 2:16 PM]
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Posted by SlimPack: didnt he play an entire NBA season last season?
26 mpg at a snails pace.
And this year isiah wants to increase his floor time to raise his stats to justify his signing, all while playing up-tempo/Suns style ball.
Is he up to it?
are we really going to play that way? I'd be kind of interested in seeing how that turns out, but I dont know if thats the best way to go for this team, hopefully Isiah will be somewhat flexible.
anyway as for what your said. there were some games (for some strange reason) where the knicks played up tempo, and curry seemed to do just fine in those, although i guess it would be different if that was done for a whole season. but curry said last year that there were some times when he was benched and he could have played more, the only point i was trying to make is that its unlikely the heart problems he had with the bulls is indicative of future dangers at this point. what kind of coniditon could he have that only allows him to play 26 mpg in the nba at an average pace, but not more mpg at a faster pace? one would think that if he had a serious heart condition he'd be dead playing either one since both are very taxing from a non athlete point of veiw.
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Three additional "suicides" were added because free agent Nikoloz Tskitishvili, a player without a guaranteed contract, suffered the misfortune of having his cell phone ring in the locker room while Thomas was addressing the team on Monday.
wow really? I didnt know Isiah was such a hard ass coach. I hope the team doesnt quit on him too.
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Posted by SlimPack: didnt he play an entire NBA season last season?
26 mpg at a snails pace.
And this year isiah wants to increase his floor time to raise his stats to justify his signing, all while playing up-tempo/Suns style ball.
Is he up to it?
are we really going to play that way? I'd be kind of interested in seeing how that turns out, but I dont know if thats the best way to go for this team, hopefully Isiah will be somewhat flexible.
anyway as for what your said. there were some games (for some strange reason) where the knicks played up tempo, and curry seemed to do just fine in those, although i guess it would be different if that was done for a whole season. but curry said last year that there were some times when he was benched and he could have played more, the only point i was trying to make is that its unlikely the heart problems he had with the bulls is indicative of future dangers at this point. what kind of coniditon could he have that only allows him to play 26 mpg in the nba at an average pace, but not more mpg at a faster pace? one would think that if he had a serious heart condition he'd be dead playing either one since both are very taxing from a non athlete point of veiw.
slim, i can't answer your medical questions, though we know people with bad hearts die all the time today when doing the same things they did the day before.
All I know about Curry is he's been a "first half" player his entire career. Gets off to a quick start and then becomes invisible later in the game. It's generally considered a fatigue thing with him, but no one knows for sure if it's physical fatigue or mental.
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Posted by SlimPack: didnt he play an entire NBA season last season?
26 mpg at a snails pace.
And this year isiah wants to increase his floor time to raise his stats to justify his signing, all while playing up-tempo/Suns style ball.
Is he up to it?
Zeke has already gone on record stating the team goes as far as Curry leads them. Well after the first day his teammates are carrying him. My ? is Curry an uptempo player? No! Steph is neither an uptempo point, although he think he is and wants to play that style. Zeke needs to stop kidding himself into thinking Curry will Morph into Amare Stoudamire. Curry is a halfcourt player when on his game can be very effective. So let's say Zeke realizes he has to slow the game down to cater to his anchor what will Steph and Steve do?
If Uptempo is the vision the starting line-up should be
Crawford Nate Q/Jeffries Lee Frye
I LOL at the scrimmage that recently took place....it had a starting line-up of
Steph Steve Jeffries Frye Curry
Where is the 3pt shooting at? Because you can't even think 2 about being the Suns unless you have that. The best way to defend that team is to sag off Steph and Steve and Box out the other players.
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Posted by SlimPack: didnt he play an entire NBA season last season?
26 mpg at a snails pace.
And this year isiah wants to increase his floor time to raise his stats to justify his signing, all while playing up-tempo/Suns style ball.
Is he up to it?
are we really going to play that way? I'd be kind of interested in seeing how that turns out, but I dont know if thats the best way to go for this team, hopefully Isiah will be somewhat flexible.
anyway as for what your said. there were some games (for some strange reason) where the knicks played up tempo, and curry seemed to do just fine in those, although i guess it would be different if that was done for a whole season. but curry said last year that there were some times when he was benched and he could have played more, the only point i was trying to make is that its unlikely the heart problems he had with the bulls is indicative of future dangers at this point. what kind of coniditon could he have that only allows him to play 26 mpg in the nba at an average pace, but not more mpg at a faster pace? one would think that if he had a serious heart condition he'd be dead playing either one since both are very taxing from a non athlete point of veiw.
[quote]All I know about Curry is he's been a "first half" player his entire career. Gets off to a quick start and then becomes invisible later in the game. It's generally considered a fatigue thing with him, but no one knows for sure if it's physical fatigue or mental.
He said in the paper the other day most of his problems, particularly when it comes to rebounding and shot blocking it's 90% mental. I'm not taking him for his Wheezing.
Meanwhile Frye is happy for the pessimists and I'm taking him for his Word.
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Boy, I guess no one else ever experienced the first day of suicides.
I was in basketball for 10 years and I don't have the ideal body for a basketball player (more like a squat running back) and I NEVER had to be helped to finish them.
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Boy, I guess no one else ever experienced the first day of suicides.
I was in basketball for 10 years and I don't have the ideal body for a basketball player (more like a squat running back) and I NEVER had to be helped to finish them.
nor do any of us make $10M a year and play professional ball. Nor do we have a trainer or nutritionist.
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Boy, I guess no one else ever experienced the first day of suicides.
I was in basketball for 10 years and I don't have the ideal body for a basketball player (more like a squat running back) and I NEVER had to be helped to finish them.
nor do any of us make $10M a year and play professional ball. Nor do we have a trainer or nutritionist.
speak for yourself.
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The out of condition excuse was good for last year, but since then Curry went thru a whole season of NBA basketball (isn't that a conditioning regiment in itself) plus an off-season with one of the highest regarded trainers in the country.
Not only are we hoping Eddy will get it together in a moth of training camp, we have to worry that he wont backslide during the season. Why that can even happen to an NBA starter, which is more exercise than many of us will see in a lifetime, I'll never understand.
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Boy, I guess no one else ever experienced the first day of suicides.
I was in basketball for 10 years and I don't have the ideal body for a basketball player (more like a squat running back) and I NEVER had to be helped to finish them.
nor do any of us make $10M a year and play professional ball. Nor do we have a trainer or nutritionist.
Exactly on point. It's pathetic. Everyone read that Curry was working with trainers over the summer, well what were the hell were they working on? If running suicides and conditioning were not part of the process then Curry severely wasted his money, but hey he's getting 10million a year so I guess he won't notice.
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Boy, I guess no one else ever experienced the first day of suicides.
I was in basketball for 10 years and I don't have the ideal body for a basketball player (more like a squat running back) and I NEVER had to be helped to finish them.
I guess being a squat running back doing suicides compared to a 6 feet 11 inches and 285 pounds basketball player is credible comparison.
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