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8/29/2006  3:30 AM
Posted by eViL:
Posted by martin:
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The difference between Nash and Marbury is night and day. You can see it just by looking at Nash's response to the questions. Nash comes off as a humble dude. He might have a huge ego inside, but he sure doesn't put it on display. Why? Because huge egos are not good for team chemistry. On the other hand, we only know the tip of the iceberg as it relates to Marb's ego. If his responses to these types of questions are any indication, he's more concerned with himself, his numbers and his status than team goals.

why do you love LB so much and keep defending him with posts like the above.

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9/3/2006  4:49 AM
Posted by 4949:
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Humble.... What an underated word.

When someone who has accomplished something can also be humble, that is when they are worthy of the utmost respect.

confidence is also to be respected, however a humble confidence is far more effective..... Not only in how you are viewed by your peers, but in winning.


You don't win MVP two years in a row for nothing.
you ar right. you win it for something. And in Nash's case, that something was a dramatic shift in the way the MVP votes were cast. Statistically, he doesn't hold a jockstrap to any of any of the previous MVPs ever, thats a fact.
http://basketball-reference.com/awards/mvp.html


[Edited by - Killa4luv on 09-03-2006 04:58 AM]
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9/3/2006  11:37 AM
Posted by eViL:
Posted by martin:
Posted by eViL:

The difference between Nash and Marbury is night and day. You can see it just by looking at Nash's response to the questions. Nash comes off as a humble dude. He might have a huge ego inside, but he sure doesn't put it on display. Why? Because huge egos are not good for team chemistry. On the other hand, we only know the tip of the iceberg as it relates to Marb's ego. If his responses to these types of questions are any indication, he's more concerned with himself, his numbers and his status than team goals.

why do you love LB so much and keep defending him with posts like the above.

I've been busted. You're a good mod, Martin -- the best maybe. How did you decipher my cryptic code?

LMFAO. Hilarious.
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9/3/2006  2:44 PM
Thank you. Thank you.

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9/4/2006  1:48 PM
How can anyone deny that the Marbs era in NY has been a 100% success? Look at his stats. Look at his shoe line. Look at how much his teammates love the guy and follow his leadership. I bet 99% of the NBA players which they could have some of what Marbs brings.
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9/4/2006  1:49 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

How can anyone deny that the Marbs era in NY has been a 100% success? Look at his stats. Look at his shoe line. Look at how much his teammates love the guy and follow his leadership. I bet 99% of the NBA players which they could have some of what Marbs brings.

I sincerely hope thats sarcasm.
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9/4/2006  3:29 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
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How can anyone deny that the Marbs era in NY has been a 100% success? Look at his stats. Look at his shoe line. Look at how much his teammates love the guy and follow his leadership. I bet 99% of the NBA players which they could have some of what Marbs brings.

I sincerely hope thats sarcasm.

Has to be. He didn't say one fact in the entire post.
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9/4/2006  5:15 PM
what about his $15 shoes? doesnt that say it all?
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9/5/2006  10:53 AM
too bad NBA basketball's not a 1 on 1 sport & there's 4 other guys that any great PG needs to be able to elevate whenever he's on the court alongside them... Nash is someone who's figured that out.
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9/5/2006  4:45 PM
Posted by TMS:

too bad NBA basketball's not a 1 on 1 sport & there's 4 other guys that any great PG needs to be able to elevate whenever he's on the court alongside them... Nash is someone who's figured that out.


OMG are you serious?
What has Nash ever done that Marbs hasnt done?

Does Nash have a nickname like Marbs (Starbury)?
Does Nash have a clothing line?
Does Nash have a $15 sneaker?
Does Nash have the power to fire coachs or trade teammates?
Does Nash come from Coney Island?

Thats 5 things Marbs has over Nash right off the bat!
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9/5/2006  4:47 PM
and marbs has more hair now!
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9/5/2006  5:40 PM
3 simple letters = M V P

3 letters that will never be associated w/Starbury unless he finally lives up to his own inflated self image of himself & puts his words into action.
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9/5/2006  5:45 PM
Posted by TMS:

3 simple letters = M V P

3 letters that will never be associated w/Starbury unless he finally lives up to his own inflated self image of himself & puts his words into action.


The MVP is over rated. Its only given out to winning teams. If Nash was really the MVP he would have a nickname and a clothing line like Marbs
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9/5/2006  6:58 PM
SugarRay laying it on thick.
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9/5/2006  7:55 PM
Posted by eViL:

SugarRay laying it on thick.

Understatement of the year. I sense sarcasm.
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9/5/2006  9:05 PM
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9/5/2006  9:58 PM
Posted by TMS:

3 simple letters = M V P

3 letters that will never be associated w/Starbury unless he finally lives up to his own inflated self image of himself & puts his words into action.


Don't want to take anything away from Nash but that MVP line is bogus. IMO..he shouldn't have gotten it.

In both years.

but thats a whole different topic
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9/5/2006  10:09 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by Elite:

Humble.... What an underated word.

When someone who has accomplished something can also be humble, that is when they are worthy of the utmost respect.

confidence is also to be respected, however a humble confidence is far more effective..... Not only in how you are viewed by your peers, but in winning.


You don't win MVP two years in a row for nothing.
you ar right. you win it for something. And in Nash's case, that something was a dramatic shift in the way the MVP votes were cast. Statistically, he doesn't hold a jockstrap to any of any of the previous MVPs ever, thats a fact.
http://basketball-reference.com/awards/mvp.html


[Edited by - Killa4luv on 09-03-2006 04:58 AM]


You have a valid point stat wise. But given PHX record, the question is could PHX have done it without Nash?
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9/6/2006  8:09 AM
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by TMS:

3 simple letters = M V P

3 letters that will never be associated w/Starbury unless he finally lives up to his own inflated self image of himself & puts his words into action.


Don't want to take anything away from Nash but that MVP line is bogus. IMO..he shouldn't have gotten it.

In both years.

but thats a whole different topic

Not this again. Yeah, I suppose Stephon Marbury should've gotten it for valiantly leading the Knicks to 23 wins. Could it be that the MVP voters actually think that helping a team WIN is a MAJOR factor in Most VALUABLE Player. That's the only reason Kobe didn't get it, and it's a valid one.

Granted you haven't mentioned who you wanted to win, but from what I've seen here in the past, if people were arguing LeBron James, or Dirk Nowitzki for MVP, instead of Nash, I'd think there was possibly a fair argument there. The fact that the majority who doesn't like the Nash pick votes Kobe instead, shows a misunderstanding of the point of the MVP award (it's not called the 1-on-5 award, is it?). It's almost a rule that you HAVE to be on a team that has won 50+ games (only once was a player not on a 50+ win team).

Anyway, sorry for ranting, just when I see posts like this thrown into the fray, it gets me a little annoyed.

[Edited by - Solace on 09-06-2006 08:17 AM]
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9/6/2006  12:54 PM
(only once was a player not on a 50+ win team)

only one in history? who was the outlier?

in any case, i mostly agree. i have more faith in MVP voting than all-star voting, at least.
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