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8/5/2006  2:11 PM
One thing I have to hand to you bip. You defended Marbury in the begining for close to the same reasons your defending Brown now. Though you have soured on him since he doesn't have the legacy that Brown has. But at least you have been consistant.
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8/5/2006  3:26 PM
I don't think pay correlates with higher effort and performance. There are plenty of people making ~20k that work harder than those at 50-100k jobs and so on.
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What if you were being paid, like, upwards of $1,000,000 per year? Hell yes, I'd play for that m*****f****r! Show me the m*****f*****g money m****rf****r!
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8/5/2006  3:26 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

When he was in Indiana I hated him. Back then though I hated him because he was this animated ****y coach that was yapping constantly, talking trash to the players and walking out on the court. Not to mention he got a team of bums to play some serious ball and he picked apart our knicks teams. Back then I would have played for him.

The geezer is now nothing buy a complainer and a snake. He is not loyal and he has no respect for his players on any level. He probably was always like that but it came out more after he left Philly.

I couldn't play for Larry brown. I don't even know if I would send my kid to a camp run by Larry brown.

Check this out: If the Knicks do much better this year, then I think we can credit Brown for that. If you say it was Zeke who gets the credit, then I would think your crazy, because wasn't it Zeke who hired Brown? On the other hand, if Zeke does lousy, then you can't blame Brown for that!
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8/5/2006  3:45 PM
Here's something interesting:

http://www.hoopshype.com/fan_mail/johnson4.htm
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8/5/2006  4:31 PM
before the stunt he pulled in detroit 2 years ago i would've not mind taking the beat down and played for larry brown. thinking the last year in detroit was just an isolated incident larry would show his true love to new york......well that did not happen and larry will probably get paid again

and again knick fans and the city of new york were dump on. playing for larry brown at this point is nothing more than stirring the pot

please, no more larry brown threads let the nightmares cease

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8/5/2006  5:36 PM
I just wanted to know if anyone would play for Larry brown.

Never got an answer. I guess I should stop torturing myself.
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8/5/2006  5:40 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

My last post is refering to professional players.

I just want to chat about the game. Brown would have started me on cinco de Mayo if I was on the team due to my Latino heritage!

If you just want to talk about the game, why did you bring up Larry Brown again?
I dunno talking about all this stuff feels like I'm posting on an oxygen network forum.

LOL - you calling us a bunch of bitches again?

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8/5/2006  5:58 PM
^ its called bait, bitch and switch
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8/5/2006  6:08 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

I just wanted to know if anyone would play for Larry brown.

Never got an answer. I guess I should stop torturing myself.

Depends on what level I'm at. If I'm new to the game (e.g.: a rookie), LB would be a great coach to have, because he'd a great teacher of the game and loves training new talent. If I'm a veteran role player who knows his role, sure, because he holds a structured system and lets it be known what he wants upfront. If I'm a veteran star, who only knows how to play one way and is unwilling to learn, then no, because I'd probably feel too restricted. Possibly the same for an upcoming star. You want to be guided and let go. LB's style is very controlling and demands 100% cooperation. Depending on my mold, certain situations would be tough to adjust to. So, tough to give a broad-scale yes or no.

That all being said, if I got a coach like LB, I would give it my all and he would be pleased with my effort.

[Edited by - Solace on 08-05-2006 6:09 PM]
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8/5/2006  7:42 PM
If I'm new to the game (e.g.: a rookie), LB would be a great coach to have
Interesting considering all three rookies had something bad to say about Larry this summer.
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8/5/2006  7:46 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
If I'm new to the game (e.g.: a rookie), LB would be a great coach to have
Interesting considering all three rookies had something bad to say about Larry this summer.

I knew you were going to latch onto the rookies part. I was very tempted to put something in my post telling you not to bother, but since you did, I will respond. That's my opinion. Our rookies played, our rookies got minutes, and I suspect our rookies learned quite a bit under LB. After making the comments they did, it's very clear they need a little bit more discipline and structure. Additionally, someone like Nate Robinson is just the wrong type of player for that type of coach. Isiah even said he might not have drafted Nate had he known LB was going to be the coach.

Is LB perfect?? No. But he's very intelligent and knows the game. I think the real issue is that our rookies thought they were rising superstars, when they were in fact, just rookies.
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8/5/2006  7:54 PM
So Frye, Nate, and Lee (and Ariza) are all simply wrong? They think they're superstars? Maybe it has nothing to do with think they're superstars but they simply think they're solid, hard workers and they're confused when lazy bums play ahead of them. Why come up with the best possible explanation for Brown every time? If it was just one young player, I could understand that. But when it's *every* young player and we hear nothing but good things about these young players' characters, I don't understand why you'd assume they simply have some ego problems and think they're superstars.
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8/5/2006  7:56 PM
Brown is a process that takes time, but New York can't wait for anyone.
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8/5/2006  8:03 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

So Frye, Nate, and Lee (and Ariza) are all simply wrong? They think they're superstars? Maybe it has nothing to do with think they're superstars but they simply think they're solid, hard workers and they're confused when lazy bums play ahead of them. Why come up with the best possible explanation for Brown every time? If it was just one young player, I could understand that. But when it's *every* young player and we hear nothing but good things about these young players' characters, I don't understand why you'd assume they simply have some ego problems and think they're superstars.

Bonn, we clearly have very different accounts of what actually happened. I don't want to let another thread get taken over by this. We've already had 643 threads back and forth about how much the rookies played. The argument has been done to death. I think about a fair amount of the board agrees they played a reasonable amount of time. In any case, we've discussed this many times. I understand your point of your view; I just don't care (not to be offensive). I'm not going to sit and talk about the rookies minutes with you any more. If you continue to discuss it, I'm just going to refrain from responding.

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8/5/2006  9:48 PM
No prob. You brought up rookies and I was replying. We can just move on.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 08-05-2006 10:05 PM]
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8/7/2006  8:57 AM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

One thing I have to hand to you bip. You defended Marbury in the begining for close to the same reasons your defending Brown now. Though you have soured on him since he doesn't have the legacy that Brown has. But at least you have been consistant.

I don't think he is to blame for the mess we are in and I dont' think he deserves to be boo'd and blamed for our losses. But he does deserve some of the criticism for HIS ACTIONS. I don't fall into the I hate Marbs/LB so everything they do is bad camps. But I do beleive that the more Marbs whines about last year and not having good teammates and makes excuses for the losses the less he helps us. And that deserves criticism. If he shuts his mouth, stops worrying about his numbers, being Starbury and plays hard ON BOTH ENDS I will never criticize him.

Some people on the site have a hard time separating criticism for actions from liking or disliking a player. If I criticize Marbs for talking that means I hate him. If I give LB credit and want him to be in charge because he is the only one in the organization to win then I am an LB lover. When I criticize his line-ups I'm a flipflopper. These people are so personally involved with the players and coach's that they have an inability to separate an action from the person. An inability to criticize their favorites or give credit to the people they don't like. I don't have this problem. That's what makes me great. I'm Starbippity.
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8/7/2006  9:32 AM
Oh yeah...I'd love to play for somebody who lies habitually, has no integrity whatsoever & tells me one thing while using the media as a voice box to communicate the complete opposite.
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Posted by purple012870:

Oh yeah...I'd love to play for somebody who lies habitually, has no integrity whatsoever & tells me one thing while using the media as a voice box to communicate the complete opposite.

The players don't play for Larry f'in Brown. They play for New York God damn city. Stop letting them off the hook.
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8/7/2006  10:14 AM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by purple012870:

Oh yeah...I'd love to play for somebody who lies habitually, has no integrity whatsoever & tells me one thing while using the media as a voice box to communicate the complete opposite.

The players don't play for Larry f'in Brown. They play for New York God damn city. Stop letting them off the hook.
He could just as easily ask you to stop letting Larry off the hook
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8/7/2006  10:51 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by purple012870:

Oh yeah...I'd love to play for somebody who lies habitually, has no integrity whatsoever & tells me one thing while using the media as a voice box to communicate the complete opposite.

The players don't play for Larry f'in Brown. They play for New York God damn city. Stop letting them off the hook.
He could just as easily ask you to stop letting Larry off the hook

He's gone Bonn. He's gone. Who cares. I'm also currently letting Rory Sparrow, John Starks, and Sugar Ray Richardson off the hook. Get over it. Booing Larry Brown does nothing for our team right now but provide them with an excuse for their poor play last year. I personally demand more and can't understand how a fan of a NY team can be okay with letting players give a half asse effort regardless of the circumstances. This obsession with LB is borderline insane and it's a typical NY smoke screen. Find one guy to blame and ignore what is really going on.

We won 23 games last year. Bonn get it in your friggin head. Get rid of your personal bias and thinking that I and others excuse LB just because we aren't sitting on here calling him the anti-christ. He did a horrible job last year. Now he is gone. The players did a horrible job last year. They are here. LB can do whatever he wants I dont' care. I have no ties to him because he is just a man. Not a KNick. The Knicks are here. I want them to play hard WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO BLAME ANYONE. Again what happens if they don't like Isiah's rotations, is it okay to quit. Noone wants to argue this point becuase they know I'm right. YOu guys keep calling me an LB lover because you have no real response to the absolutely 100 percent dead on point that I'm making. We as fans gave our team a reason to quit. There is never a reason to quit. And anyone that says that there is, in my view is a loser.
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