Posted by Bonn1997:

You are raising the bar beyond the point at which it can be rationally overcome.

Just post the quotes by Cashman with links that you're referring to about his decisions being overruled and that will surely start to "rationally overcome the bar"
I assume the norm (which is obviously that the GM controls roster decisions) unless shown clear evidence to the contrary. Some writer's speculation doesn't count but the quotes you're talking about would help

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 07-31-2006 11:12 PM]

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Rich:

Posted by Bonn1997:

You are raising the bar beyond the point at which it can be rationally overcome.

Just post the quotes by Cashman with links that you're referring to about his decisions being overruled and that will surely start to "rationally overcome the bar"
I assume the norm (which is obviously that the GM controls roster decisions) unless shown clear evidence to the contrary. Some writer's speculation doesn't count but the quotes you're talking about would help

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 07-31-2006 11:12 PM]

Post taped quotes from archives that may or may not exist?

Jeez, you're more demanding than any g/f I've ever had, and I have gone out with some strange chicks.

If he's made all these statements on the radio, I can't imagine that none of them have ever appeared in newspapers and online sites. It should take you less time than that last post took to find the quotes.

I can imagine that seeking evidence from those who just accept speculation sure can sound demanding!



[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 07-31-2006 11:22 PM]

Though there were certainly options -- Cashman was mentioned as a candidate for openings in Philadelphia and Arizona -- Cashman said his preference was always to stay with the Yankees. But first, he sought assurance that frequent disagreements in philosophy between the Yankees' New York and Tampa factions could be calmed.

Cashman said most of his negotiation time with Steinbrenner, general partner Steve Swindal, president Randy Levine and COO Lonn Trost discussed not financials, but processes of streamlining and simplification. Cashman spoke Thursday of "splintering," in which members of one faction would voice displeasure with certain philosophies and opinions.

"Obviously, that can create a lot of different potholes along the way as we all travel in the same direction," Cashman said.

Unsatisfied by the final results of the last five seasons, Cashman said he found the ranks of executives open to change and to the removal of ongoing drama from the club's two operating arms.

He drew an analogy to highway guardrails, protecting the straight path through a hands-on ownership group to a 27th World Series championship. Cashman said Steinbrenner was receptive to the plan in a lengthy telephone call last week.

"I want to be that filter," Cashman said. "Everything goes through me. With the chain of command, I think everyone involved wants it that way. We've all suffered this year in different ways because of the splintering. I think everyone involved wants it to be streamlined."

Under what the Yankees hope to be a revitalized plan of structure, Cashman said he is eyeing several changes, most notably a reduction in payroll.

Posted by Bonn1997:

It's not quite the same as being overruled, which is sounding like either a fabrication or at least an exaggeration, but it is one step above no evidence.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Oh Rich, you disappoint me! With the last quote, I thought you were finally convinced that the idea of evidence was a good one. Now you're back to the "it's common knowledge" lines. Your regression is noticeable!

At its best, the Yankee front office is a melting pot of baseball ideas, where a free exchange of opinions yields fresh takes and blankets every nuance of the complicated business of putting a baseball team on the field. At its worst, it is a Darwinian survival game, impaired by differing agendas and tensions, where decisions can be overruled by the whims of a domineering owner, who can be influenced by whatever executive is in his good graces that day.

In fact, Steinbrenner, as any Yankee employee knows, is the ultimate "Boss" on everything Yankees. He is, one club official says, always involved in something, from the signing a mega free agent or griping about the color of clubhouse carpeting.

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by Rich:

Really? I guess you aren't aware that Cash didn't make most of the player personnel decisions over the last few years. He was only granted that power in his last contract that he signed in October.

It was the Tampa faction, led by George, who has been unduly influenced by Emslie and Connors, that made the stupid decisions.

there's a lot he's not aware of. Dont let that get in the way of healthy debate involving a variety of facts based on his opinions.

Kinda funny... last I checked Yanks were a half a game out of first and currently the wild card leader. That with 75 HRs and 250 RBIs in their corner outfielders out for most of the year. I guess the pitching must really stink.