Posted by holfresh:
Why is it everytime I mention uptempo you guys always take it to he extremes...It mean no rules out there, it means no passing or sharing the ball as you guys like to say, It means playing no defense, it means AND1 highlights, it means school yard basketball...Many teams run an uptempo offense in the NBA that has structure and are successful, look at Dallas....
I understand you're lumping me in with many guys but my comment came from your implying Brown needs to adapt his system because these guys aren't effectively executing his "share the ball for a good shot" concept. You wrote:
How can developing a style that fits your players skillset be a bad thing...How can trying to be creative on offense be bad for a team...Much of the Knicks turnover problems they have this year is trying to make the 5th and 6th pass on offense without any rhytmm or reason...Larry has these guys thinking too much...They are making to passes for the sake of passing and not to try and get the easy baskets on offense..That suggest that because these guys, who aren't known for sharing the ball, haven't yet mastered it he should abandon the quest and cater to their weakness by letting them do what they know, which is to freelance, iso and ball dominate. It sounds like you're saying "If they can't strike the balance on sharing... don't make them share."
Now for the team's strength...The Knicks has 3 players that can be considered a core to any basketball team in Curry,Fyre and Marbs...At this some point this past season, they should have been getting 40 mins per night together...It was important for these guys get to know each other's game but Curry wasn't in shape for a good part of the season and when he got in shape, Larry thought otherwise....
I disagree that a rookie needs 40 mpg to develop. Richard Jefferson got 24. Bogut is getting 28. Joe Johnson got 21. Marion 25. Dirk 20. Nash 11. Redd 6.
If Curry gets 4 fouls in a game, he is burried at the end of the bench for the rest of the game....What is that...
Curry is still getting more MPG than his career average and not far off his career highs. He was just a big a core guy to Chi, why didn't they give him 40 mpg? Larry isn't Eddy's first coach to think he loses focus as the game wears on. he doesn't demand the ball, he stops posting, the guards don't find him. He might think additional time is counter productive.
What Eddy could do to increase his court time is to defend, rebound and get his own points via offensive rebounds, tips and putbacks. When Larry takes him out while he's doing that I'll back you up.
Meanwhile, maybe he wants to give Butler some time too - he usually earns precisely with garbage points like that. I guarantee you Butler is more productive in his 13 mpg than Eddy is with an
extra 13 mpg.
Frye also needed more time this year, Malik and AD eating up minutes this year was just a total waste of time...It did nothing for the organization or for the growth of the rookies...
I disagree. Just goes to show how devalued defense and leadership has become around here. You need respected guys out there setting a tone and leading by example. And they need PT to have credibility in the locker room too.
Also Marbs is a very good penetrator, he ran a nice pick and roll with KVH and Doleac....Can this not be done with Frye as well...How many pick and roll have you seen run with Marbs and Frye this season...Pick and roll was the staple of Stockton and Malone's offense...You are not going confuse our guys with that duo, but could we at least try...
Frye can pick and pop, he's not yet ready to roll. Larry probably doesn't want Steph and Frye to get too comfortable working the perimeter, it was all we could do last year and it's not a high percentage option.
As I think back on Brown former teams he's really not a fan of the P&R. reggie and rip run cross court through multiple screens, Iverson freelances, Smits got fed in the post.
He's not really into the two man game, and when he wants to feed a big his preference is into the interior. I know Sheed takes a fair amount of perimeter shots but I'm having trouble to recall how they set him up out there. I suspect it's off of ball movement, just as we did Frye.
I do hear your point on that, Steph and frye could have run the pick and pop, but it's really not LB's game and he's done pretty well with good shooting bigmen utilizing his shared ball style. Meanwhile a lot of guys were sick of Steph and kurt doing it and wanted kurt gone ASAP. I hope those same people aren't now wishing Brown would set frye up for the same punishment.
How is it possible that Curry and Butler are sharing time at the center position...How is it possible that Curry is shooting some insane percentage close to 70 percent and he not get the ball almost every time down on offense...Why is the coach not demanding he get the ball..
Brown did! How many post-game interviews did we hear with LB complaining that the post wasn't being fed well and that Eddy wasn't getting enough attempts. And all the while some fans complained that force feeding curry was stagnating the offense and we needed to "set our guards free."
See because we're losing you're declaring Browns approach wrong, whatever it is. If we lose with uptempo and ball movement, than we should be feeding the post. If we're feeding the post, then we should be running. It's not acceptable that we run Brown's "share the ball" offense long enough for the guys to get it, it's better we change the system all the time to see if there's something out there that might possibly stick?
And how are you guys are able to measure IQs from your television sets..It's amazing you guys are able to do that...
It's not hard to gauge a
bball IQ by watching a guy play bball for years.
