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McK1
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4/27/2006  12:31 PM
judging by the mocks, Nets are going to end up turning Martin into Carter an athletic rebounder/shotblocker and a legit heir to Kidd like Lowry
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4/27/2006  10:03 PM
O'Neal destroyed the Nets in game 3. Johnson played out of his mind. Stojakovic still not in a groove.
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4/28/2006  1:00 AM
can Anthony Johnson have 2 more games like that?

1 things for sure, Carter can't.

[Edited by - McK1 on 04-28-2006 01:01 AM]
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4/28/2006  1:41 AM
Posted by McK1:

can Anthony Johnson have 2 more games like that?

1 things for sure, Carter can't.

[Edited by - McK1 on 04-28-2006 01:01 AM]


We'll see.
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4/29/2006  2:19 AM
excellent strategy doubling Nenad by Carlisle
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5/4/2006  12:26 AM
Codeunknown,

Do you feel any different about the ranges of possible performance from Carter and Krstic than you did before?

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5/4/2006  7:49 AM
or Shaq's ability to dominate a 7 game series? Running with the Bulls is exposing the lack of conditioning.

Krstic beating him down court is going to put Miami in a precarios position. He can turn and shoot over Haslem or Walker with ease.

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5/4/2006  2:38 PM
Posted by oohah:

Codeunknown,

Do you feel any different about the ranges of possible performance from Carter and Krstic than you did before?

oohah

Not quite. You should remember that I commented on ranges of production specific to matchups against Detroit. NJ-Ind was going to come down to the wire - without Stojakovic and Foster, its not surprising they lost game 5.

Even against Indy, Carter and Krstic's performances were on the high end but nothing unexpected. Again, its much easier when Stojakovic is injured. Clearly, doubling O' Neal is that much more effective.


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5/4/2006  2:40 PM
Posted by McK1:

or Shaq's ability to dominate a 7 game series? Running with the Bulls is exposing the lack of conditioning.

Krstic beating him down court is going to put Miami in a precarios position. He can turn and shoot over Haslem or Walker with ease.

Who said what about Shaq dominating anything? I know I haven't evaluated Shaq's performance anywhere so far.
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5/4/2006  2:49 PM
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by oohah:

Codeunknown,

Do you feel any different about the ranges of possible performance from Carter and Krstic than you did before?

oohah

Not quite. You should remember that I commented on ranges of production specific to matchups against Detroit. NJ-Ind was going to come down to the wire - without Stojakovic and Foster, its not surprising they lost game 5.

Even against Indy, Carter and Krstic's performances were on the high end but nothing unexpected. Again, its much easier when Stojakovic is injured. Clearly, doubling O' Neal is that much more effective.

What does Peja's injury or doubling O'Neal have to do with Carter and Krstic' production? If Peja were healthy, would he stop Carter from averaging 30 points a game? When did he become Ron Artest?
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Posted by ultknicks524:
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by oohah:

Codeunknown,

Do you feel any different about the ranges of possible performance from Carter and Krstic than you did before?

oohah

Not quite. You should remember that I commented on ranges of production specific to matchups against Detroit. NJ-Ind was going to come down to the wire - without Stojakovic and Foster, its not surprising they lost game 5.

Even against Indy, Carter and Krstic's performances were on the high end but nothing unexpected. Again, its much easier when Stojakovic is injured. Clearly, doubling O' Neal is that much more effective.

What does Peja's injury or doubling O'Neal have to do with Carter and Krstic' production? If Peja were healthy, would he stop Carter from averaging 30 points a game? When did he become Ron Artest?


Winning is easier for NJ when Stojakovic is injured.
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5/4/2006  3:11 PM
Thats obvious. I thought we were talking about Carter and Krstic's production. My mistake.
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5/4/2006  3:58 PM
Posted by ultknicks524:

Thats obvious. I thought we were talking about Carter and Krstic's production. My mistake.

Right, its also well worth mentioning because our predictions were made on the assumption of somewhat healthy rosters.

As a recap, Carter has gotten 34 and 28 in the past 2 games on 13 for 24 and 9 for 15. He got 33 on 12 of 20 in game 2. In games 1 and 3 he shot a combined 37 % and got 31 and 25. That is well within what you have to expect as an opposing team.
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5/4/2006  5:06 PM
Right, its also well worth mentioning because our predictions were made on the assumption of somewhat healthy rosters.

As a recap, Carter has gotten 34 and 28 in the past 2 games on 13 for 24 and 9 for 15. He got 33 on 12 of 20 in game 2. In games 1 and 3 he shot a combined 37 % and got 31 and 25. That is well within what you have to expect as an opposing team.

Peja's and Foster's injury has hurt the Pacers worse without a doubt, but they have been getting some great performances too. Johnson has been playing much better than they could hope for from Tinsley.

My point is that the Nets are playing well, even though they were shaky at the begining of the playoffs, and that they are still improving!

I think they will close out Indiana tonight, and they will win the series even if they don't win tonight.

Miami is another story, and it's an interesting one:

Kidd/Vaughn Vs. Payton/Williams
Vince Vs. Wade
RJ Vs. Walker
Shaq/Mourning Vs. Krstic/Collins

It's anybody's guess who will win, and that's going to be an entertaining series!

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5/4/2006  5:59 PM
Posted by oohah:
Right, its also well worth mentioning because our predictions were made on the assumption of somewhat healthy rosters.

As a recap, Carter has gotten 34 and 28 in the past 2 games on 13 for 24 and 9 for 15. He got 33 on 12 of 20 in game 2. In games 1 and 3 he shot a combined 37 % and got 31 and 25. That is well within what you have to expect as an opposing team.

Peja's and Foster's injury has hurt the Pacers worse without a doubt, but they have been getting some great performances too. Johnson has been playing much better than they could hope for from Tinsley.

My point is that the Nets are playing well, even though they were shaky at the begining of the playoffs, and that they are still improving!

I think they will close out Indiana tonight, and they will win the series even if they don't win tonight.

Miami is another story, and it's an interesting one:

Kidd/Vaughn Vs. Payton/Williams
Vince Vs. Wade
RJ Vs. Walker
Shaq/Mourning Vs. Krstic/Collins

It's anybody's guess who will win, and that's going to be an entertaining series!

oohah

Definitely, it should be fun to watch and discuss that series. The Nets have improved on both ends of the floor but naturally there are a few caveats. The Nets defense has been tough, although I wouldn't overrate it since they deal really with only one threat on the floor - O' Neal. Without Stojakovic, Indiana's complementary shooting suffers as well.

Carter and Jefferson have been efficient on offense. They are going against a solid defensive team and have done well. Since Artest left, however, Indiana does lack a shut down defender (like Prince for example) and Fred Jones off the bench is too small to cover either the 2 or 3. Once again, Kidd's shooting needs to pick up as well if NJ advances.

I wouldn't count out Indiana either. O'Neal has been more than impressive and he can single-handedly foul out every big man on the Nets roster. That said, if Indy doesn't get back both Peja and Foster, the odds are against them.
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5/4/2006  6:44 PM
code weren't you scouting Shaq and his ability to "mash opposing defenders under the rim" prior to seasons end?

If Indy could keep players healthy, they wouldn't be a 6th seed.

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5/4/2006  7:51 PM
Posted by McK1:

code weren't you scouting Shaq and his ability to "mash opposing defenders under the rim" prior to seasons end?

Right. Thats different from dominating Chicago in a 7 game series. Foul trouble has been his problem in the past 3 games.

I agree with the Indiana statement.
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5/4/2006  9:31 PM
difference between winning and losing:

Kidd tipping the offensive rebound away from O' Neal - leads to the Carter basket.

RJ blocks O'Neals putback attempt - leads to the Krstic freethrows that made it a 4pt game.
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5/4/2006  9:38 PM
difference between winning and losing:

O'Neal didn't play well enough in the 2nd half. Too many turnovers, missed free throws.

RJ was excellent. Krstic was clutch with the free throws.

By the way, I think Anthony Johnson just won a lot of fans after that performance.


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5/4/2006  9:46 PM
RJ Carter Kidd - 23 rebounds.

Pacers starting 5 - 24 rebounds.

Nets played excellent D on Jermaine.

Johnson is a very good back-up capable of providing a big punch when inserted. Playmaking abilities for others is limited.

Jersey made the plays down the stretch

[Edited by - McK1 on 05-04-2006 9:48 PM]
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