Posted by McK1:

he has an undeveloped post game so that makes him lucky to be Dan Gadzurich?

he doesn't just run the floor. pleae illustrate the amount of big men put consistently by their coach in the middle of the floor to receive and handle the rock and break down a full court press on the college or pro level. Pleas illustrate the amount of bigs given the responsibility of orchestrating out of the high post on the college or pro level.

And could it be the fact that he was a point guard who shot up 8 inches why his body and post game isn't as developed as others at his age. He is accepting the change and going out and playing like a big man.

He can develop a jumper and he can polish up his post game. His handles and court vision make him much more than just Dan Gadz. His motor heart and enthusiasm and selfless play on the court makes him a leader on that Gator team and he has the intangibles to translate to the next level.

this is billy donovan ball, his big men will run the floor and start a break if necessary, david lee did the same thing. No one is doubting his motor or heart, and that is fine, but he scores his points by being a better athlete than the collegiates he is playing against, on the next level there are a ton of guys his height who are bigger and faster and hsutle just as much. I don't know why his offensive game is underdeveloped, I do know his sophmore teamate Horford has a post game, can hold the post, run the floor and defend, so I don't see what makes noah better than him, and I only at this point see Horford as a good NBA prospect, not superstardom as some are trying to make Noah..

He can develop a jumper and he can polish up his post game

that is easier said than done, and not to say that he can, but how often do big men who can't shoot, develop into shooters? Or who never had a post game, develop one, some guys already have a post game and then refine it on the next level....

His handles and court vision make him much more than just Dan Gadz.

lets be honest, this guy is not jason kidd, and he does not have magic johnson vision, he runs with the ball good for a man his size, but that is not what he will be doing on the next level, Dan gadzurich has that endless motor that is why I think they are more silimar, Dan also finishes around the basket with dunks, but does not have a post game. There is no shame in being compared to dan gadzurich unless you have these unrealistic expectations of noah being the next KG or even camby for that matter...

Pleas illustrate the amount of bigs given the responsibility of orchestrating out of the high post on the college or pro level.

what is the big deal with that, a lot of big men do that, uconn bigs are good passers and can operate out of the high post, bogut does it with the bucks, Brad miller, chris webber, I can go on... this is nothing new for big men MCK1..


I really don't know what you are arguing here, if your point is that this kid is a can't miss star on the next level, then we are miles apart, if you think he is more than a good role player on a good team, then we still are not on the same page. So far he has shown me that he can be a good role player on the next level, he is no where near a dominant player in any aspect. But if you see stardom in this kid, then this is where we will always dissagree.....

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by VDesai:

And its really very rare to find a young big man who can set screens and block shots cleanly while not getting in constant foul trouble the way that Noah did in the tournament.

Did you watch tyrus thomas from LSU, how about Aldrige from Texas, or josh boone, or Hilton Arstrong, or that kid from Boston college who blocked that three to send the game into OT? or the block party put on by UCLA vs LSU the other night, ask Big baby about that....


again rare? no really, just as it is not rare that average players are hyped up to the point of no return....

With the exception of Thomas, none of those guys dominated defensively the way that Noah did in the tournament. And guess what, Thomas is a top 3 prospect.

And none of them where setting screens on pretty much every offensive play the way that Noah was. Just look at the big men on our team...they rack up 2-3 fouls a game just on setting screens.

you are letting one tournament skew your views man, don't fall into the pervis ellison trap. Josh boone, Hilton armstrong all set great picks, and screens, they both are good shotblockers and Armstrong is one of the best. the other big like Aldridge sets picks but he spends most of his time in the low blocks where he is effective, should you hold that against a big man?

Just look at the big men on our team...they rack up 2-3 fouls a game just on setting screens.

Like who? frye and lee and butler all set good screens, I mean are you telling me, you are going bannanas over a guy becuase he sets screens? those guys exist in the league and a lot of them come on the cheap, where are you going with this? Noah is great because he does all the things that good role players do? rebounds, defends, set good picks? to me that makes him a good role player, like I said before....

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by gunsnewing:

this is truly the worst draft in nba history if the #1 pick is going to be used on the quintessential role player!

he's no role player. what are you smoking? He's going to be better than Camby. He can do things Camby could never dream of doing, like dribble and pass extremely well.

Posted by crzymdups:

http://draftexpress.com/mock.php?y=2006

draft express has Noah ranked no.1 right now. just saying, a lot of people have been impressed by him.

Posted by Andrew:

Posted by crzymdups:

http://draftexpress.com/mock.php?y=2006

draft express has Noah ranked no.1 right now. just saying, a lot of people have been impressed by him.

All this hype reminds me of when Maryland won the title and Chris Wilcox had some very good games.