Posted by holfresh:

Posted by eymyel827:

holfresh please dont tell me you're from coney island, and your last name is marbury. the point is this team is LOADED w talent and he seems to not inject life into it. INDIVIDUALLY he is a good player. 20 points 8 assist. but we're talkin about being a team player and being a leader and being consistent which means bringing it night in night out!! nash doesnt have to score alot of points and yet his team wins and same w j kidd.

Hahahaha..I promise you, I not from Coney Island...Why should we look at the guy as a leader, why are we putting this mantle on him, he doesn't want it... just look at him as another player who can help you win games...He is not the answer, he is not the guy you build a team around..he is a piece of the puzzle...I think people are trying to make him something he is not and because he doesn't live up to certain people's expectation they want to get rid of him.....So what he has a big opinion of himself...All I care about is him being 20 and 10 with a little D, thats all I ask...Who gives a damn if KT or KVH or Q1 don't like him.....If they could give me 20 and 10 of anything on a night basis I would be rooting for them too....

Posted by eymyel827:

holfresh becuz not too long ago he proclaimed himself as the BEST POINTGUARD in the nba. now isnt that the same as saying you're a franchise player? Also whenever he's interviewed he always says that he LOVES playing in new york and winning is all that matters to him. why then is he challenging brown's system by saying hed go back to being starbury. this guys an underachiever, not even a coach of brown's caliber can change him. trade him and we will get better

Posted by nixluva:

THe problems with LB stem from the fact that LB is almost NEVER happy with is PG play. That's fine cuz he should be demanding, but to do some of the really rough things he's done with Steph and other players on this team, its no way to get players to run thru brick walls for you.

It was revealed that the relationship between Billups and LB was just as bad, only Billups has a different personality than Steph PLUS they were already a winning team.

With ragard to what you asked Nalod about what seasoned Bigs Nash or Kidd played with, all I can say is that it wasn't intended as a comparison with those two PG's. You missed the point entirely. When Steph has been on his teams which lost he was playing with weak teams that only had minimal talent. Which of his teams was a preseason pick to make a run for the title... NONE. He played with Amare as a rookie and only 18 games in his 2nd year, before Amare got hurt and they traded Steph, however in his 1st yr they went to the playoffs. Steph played with Kmart in his rookie season and then got traded, so again this was not an optimal winning situation, where you could say that Steph had all that he needed to compete. Besides the fact that Kittles and KVH weren't healthy the whole time. The Nets set records for games missed due to injury. In Minny he had a young KG and a veteran Gugliotta and STeph played so well that they actually made the playoffs in his 1st yr and then had the team 1st winning season ever in yr 2. Steph didn't fail in Minny, he simply didn't want to play there and that was his fault. He was young and stupid, but not a detrimental player. In NY he never got the chance to play with a healthy H2O and that would have been a very productive backcourt. Still right now this team has some nice young talent and I think Steph is more than capable of helping this team to win games in the future. I think Steph had really found a good groove until the injury set him back and the team back.

It seems LB quickly forgot just how effective Steph could be and took to just bashing him, EVEN THO HE WAS PLAYING HURT!!!!

Posted by NotFrye:

Posted by djsunyc:

how's this for a scenario - isiah is on the way out and he told that to steph. so steph knows he no longer has any more protection in the organization. maybe that's why steph is voicing his displeasure. maybe he's trying to put it on lb as a way of backing isiah. and with isiah on the way out, steph knows his days are probably numbered so he no longer cares about the ramifications.

again, purely hypothetical but another scenario to throw out there.

This makes a lot of sense

Posted by rvhoss:

so, are you saying he can't play defense?
I like to look at it like this...point differential in points + assists scored v. points given up by opposing point guard.

Who is better than steph? Qualification...that we can get or have.

and fishy, since when do your posts get stupid with teh repeat cut and paste...is that the only way you can get your point across these days...you have been posting the same post for like weeks now.