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Bobby
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2/26/2006  8:20 AM
i like riles quote from that newsday article: www.newsday.com/sports/printedition/ny-spknotes254641256feb25,0,6750335.story?

Miami coach Pat Riley put the onus on Larry Brown to make something happen now that he has acquired Francis and Rose. Riley said the Knicks' talent is "through the roof" and added, "The cupboard is full."

pat riley would not have knicks perform in the manner larry lame has

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2/26/2006  8:27 AM
what he said.
Posted by fishmike:

I for incomplete

If these guys come into next year better understanding whats expected and we find a style of play this year was worth it. If its more of the same disarray its a plain F

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2/26/2006  8:34 AM
yeah, who is the superstar on our team? Jamal crawford? How about Isiah has spent a ton of cash bringing in over-rated players who dont fit together. I dont care what Larry brown does, its still just basketball, still just putting the ball into the hoop, still playing hard. 5 guys who dont know each other at the Y have better chemistry than these knicks.

Im quite sure other GM's are jealous of the open pocketbook, lets be fair Isiah has an advantage over every team, but he just Fd it up.

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2/26/2006  8:37 AM
what he said.
Posted by Erniecat:

I love these posts, because they allow me to vent.

Any Knicks fan who does not give Larry a solid "F" has been watching a different team.

Put it this way: If Chaney or Lenny or Herb were our coach and was doing the same exact job (making the exact same decisions, inlcuding rotations, etc.) and had the same exact record, what would you give him?

EVERYONE would give him an F. Therefore, Larry derves an F as well.

It's not even up for debate.

Yeah, we'd probably suck no matter who the coach was, but he hasn't even taken advantage of our poor record and given the rookies enough playing time. Have our rookies really progressed throughout the season? Let's face it: They pretty much peaked during training camp.

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2/26/2006  8:45 AM
Still blaming Isiah, and giving LB a pass.

Snap out of it...byron scott...better records with a roster with less time together and far less talent.

IF wins and losses don't matter, which for LB most of the Zeke bashers seem to ignore, than both Isiah and Larry get an A. Our team is stocked to the gills with ASSETS.

And I thought GMs were graded on assets as well?

Hey guys, there are people that will ignore all of LBs mistakes because of resume...briggs, martin, fish, I have no idea what you guys are looking at, but to give LB a pass because of his resume is weak.

no ifs ands or buts.

To give him a pass because he's ***** like you...well, that explains it a little better.

Posted by BRIGGS:

yeah, who is the superstar on our team? Jamal crawford? How about Isiah has spent a ton of cash bringing in over-rated players who dont fit together. I dont care what Larry brown does, its still just basketball, still just putting the ball into the hoop, still playing hard. 5 guys who dont know each other at the Y have better chemistry than these knicks.

Im quite sure other GM's are jealous of the open pocketbook, lets be fair Isiah has an advantage over every team, but he just Fd it up.


[Edited by - rvhoss on 02-26-2006 08:49 AM]
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2/26/2006  8:49 AM
I dont care what Larry brown does, its still just basketball, still just putting the ball into the hoop, still playing hard. 5 guys who dont know each other at the Y have better chemistry than these knicks.

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2/26/2006  8:57 AM
[quote]
Posted by rvhoss:

Still blaming Isiah, and giving LB a pass.

Snap out of it...byron scott...better records with a roster with less time together and far less talent.

IF wins and losses don't matter, which for LB most of the Zeke bashers seem to ignore, than both Isiah and Larry get an A. Our team is stocked to the gills with ASSETS.

And I thought GMs were graded on assets as well?

Hey guys, there are people that will ignore all of LBs mistakes because of resume...briggs, martin, fish, I have no idea what you guys are looking at, but to give LB a pass because of his resume is weak.

no ifs ands or buts.

To give him a pass because he's ***** like you...well, that explains it a little better.


[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

yeah, who is the superstar on our team? Jamal crawford? How about Isiah has spent a ton of cash bringing in over-rated players who dont fit together. I dont care what Larry brown does, its still just basketball, still just putting the ball into the hoop, still playing hard. 5 guys who dont know each other at the Y have better chemistry than these knicks.

Im quite sure other GM's are jealous of the open pocketbook, lets be fair Isiah has an advantage over every team, but he just Fd it up.


LB's a whole different monster to deal with. Remember its Isiah who brought in LB--my goal is to dismantle this entire organization and start it up again. I need to get Isiah OUT first, so I can bring in someone like Donnie Nelson, and let him disect everything. If he feels Larry should go, maybe they can negotiate a buyout. Isiah is first.
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2/26/2006  9:22 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Im quite sure other GM's are jealous of the open pocketbook, lets be fair Isiah has an advantage over every team, but he just Fd it up.

yup, i think thats the reason why we have to overpay in any trade since all gms despise our disreguard of the cap.

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2/26/2006  12:06 PM
Originally posted by BRIGGS:

Im quite sure other GM's are jealous of the open pocketbook, lets be fair Isiah has an advantage over every team, but he just Fd it up.
Is it an advantage or disadvantage when you're told that you must improve the team immediately rather than being allowed to take 2 steps backwards to eventually take 4 forwards?
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2/26/2006  12:11 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

[quote]
Posted by rvhoss:

Still blaming Isiah, and giving LB a pass.

Snap out of it...byron scott...better records with a roster with less time together and far less talent.

IF wins and losses don't matter, which for LB most of the Zeke bashers seem to ignore, than both Isiah and Larry get an A. Our team is stocked to the gills with ASSETS.

And I thought GMs were graded on assets as well?

Hey guys, there are people that will ignore all of LBs mistakes because of resume...briggs, martin, fish, I have no idea what you guys are looking at, but to give LB a pass because of his resume is weak.

no ifs ands or buts.

To give him a pass because he's ***** like you...well, that explains it a little better.


[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

yeah, who is the superstar on our team? Jamal crawford? How about Isiah has spent a ton of cash bringing in over-rated players who dont fit together. I dont care what Larry brown does, its still just basketball, still just putting the ball into the hoop, still playing hard. 5 guys who dont know each other at the Y have better chemistry than these knicks.

Im quite sure other GM's are jealous of the open pocketbook, lets be fair Isiah has an advantage over every team, but he just Fd it up.


LB's a whole different monster to deal with. Remember its Isiah who brought in LB--my goal is to dismantle this entire organization and start it up again. I need to get Isiah OUT first, so I can bring in someone like Donnie Nelson, and let him disect everything. If he feels Larry should go, maybe they can negotiate a buyout. Isiah is first.



Maybe you weren't a fan of the Knicks or you didn't remember Donny Nelson tenure...He was the worst, coach the Knicks had ever seen to that point....He will never be invited back....

How is he a guru anyway? How many Championships has he won?

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2/26/2006  12:15 PM
Posted by holfresh:

[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by rvhoss:

Still blaming Isiah, and giving LB a pass.

Snap out of it...byron scott...better records with a roster with less time together and far less talent.

IF wins and losses don't matter, which for LB most of the Zeke bashers seem to ignore, than both Isiah and Larry get an A. Our team is stocked to the gills with ASSETS.

And I thought GMs were graded on assets as well?

Hey guys, there are people that will ignore all of LBs mistakes because of resume...briggs, martin, fish, I have no idea what you guys are looking at, but to give LB a pass because of his resume is weak.

no ifs ands or buts.

To give him a pass because he's ***** like you...well, that explains it a little better.


[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

yeah, who is the superstar on our team? Jamal crawford? How about Isiah has spent a ton of cash bringing in over-rated players who dont fit together. I dont care what Larry brown does, its still just basketball, still just putting the ball into the hoop, still playing hard. 5 guys who dont know each other at the Y have better chemistry than these knicks.

Im quite sure other GM's are jealous of the open pocketbook, lets be fair Isiah has an advantage over every team, but he just Fd it up.


LB's a whole different monster to deal with. Remember its Isiah who brought in LB--my goal is to dismantle this entire organization and start it up again. I need to get Isiah OUT first, so I can bring in someone like Donnie Nelson, and let him disect everything. If he feels Larry should go, maybe they can negotiate a buyout. Isiah is first.



Maybe you weren't a fan of the Knicks or you didn't remember Donny Nelson tenure...He was the worst, coach the Knicks had ever seen to that point....He will never be invited back....

How is he a guru anyway? How many Championships has he won?


hol, calm down young fella, he was talking about the GM spot, where the Nelson's have had LOTS of success.
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2/26/2006  12:56 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by nykshaknbake:

I can't think of a single way he's positively influenced the team. He's destroyed any chemistry or confidence w/ his 33 different lineups. He constantly bashes players in public. We still suck at defense. The only reason ppl will give him anything but an F is b/c he won a championship in Detroit two years ago. It's like if I took a course and got an A and failed every test the next year and got a B because it couldn't be my fault since I did so well before.

I like that analogy...

Does anyone here have to guess what my grade for Larry is?


IF you give him an "F" then please shoot the G.M. and poison the owner.. They're the main reason why this franchise is down the tubes..

[Edited by - woodmannyk on 02-26-2006 12:58 PM]
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2/26/2006  1:08 PM


No way do I want Don Nelson here, the guys is one milkshake away from a heart attack...Massive alcoholic over the years...
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2/26/2006  1:12 PM
Posted by holfresh:



No way do I want Don Nelson here, the guys is one milkshake away from a heart attack...Massive alcoholic over the years...

you know this for a fact?
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2/26/2006  1:31 PM
wth???....didnt nelson have us 11 games over 500 before he git tossed?
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2/26/2006  3:25 PM

I think that's a pretty scathing indictment of our coach, not GM.
Posted by BRIGGS:

yeah, who is the superstar on our team? Jamal crawford? How about Isiah has spent a ton of cash bringing in over-rated players who dont fit together. I dont care what Larry brown does, its still just basketball, still just putting the ball into the hoop, still playing hard. 5 guys who dont know each other at the Y have better chemistry than these knicks.
Im quite sure other GM's are jealous of the open pocketbook, lets be fair Isiah has an advantage over every team, but he just Fd it up.

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2/26/2006  4:19 PM
all things considered C-
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2/26/2006  4:23 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

what he said.
Posted by fishmike:

I for incomplete

If these guys come into next year better understanding whats expected and we find a style of play this year was worth it. If its more of the same disarray its a plain F

F for every executive in the organization this year. The only person in the organization I'd give an incomplete to is Steve Francis.
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2/26/2006  4:23 PM
>> yeah, who is the superstar on our team?

Briggs - who is the so-called Super star on ten Pistons?

>>lets be fair Isiah has an advantage over every team

Briggs - your narrow perspective is reviiosnist at best. Isiah INHERITED a mediocre team way over the cap, with an owner with subscriptions to maintain.

And you naively think allowing contacts to expire, or buying them all back, is a viable option?

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2/26/2006  4:25 PM
Umm, he wasn't talking about Don Nelson, he was talking about his son Donnie Nelson, who has been a long time NBA assistant coach and personell guy.
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