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McK1
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2/2/2006  6:57 PM
Posted by codeunknown:



Actually, many factors suggest that his value will appreciate. Crawford's value can't get any lower. Trading him next summer when he has less years on his deal and is likely a better ball player, I'd say would help his value. He's already shown improvement in shot selection. He plays a confused role on offense now - an issue which is likely to be resolved by next year when we field a more consistent lineup. The team as a whole is likely to win more next year - a factor that also helps his value. I think thats a mountain of evidence against you.

I feel like you're arguing in a theoretical vacuum - do you really think Wells is coming to New York - Sacramento will keep him for the MLE in the off chance goes for that low. And if he indeed makes his way here, the option to start him at the 3 keeps Crawford playing significant minutes. Regardless, trading Crawford because Wells, of all people, might take away his minutes, is absurd.

and you're basing your assumptions on the optimistic viewpoint there is no mountain Larry Brown can't climb. There is a reason he is called Next Town Brown.

As for minutes, there is not 1 coach in the league worth a spit who would split Wells minutes so the sieve crawford can get floor-time. Defense rebounds along with 15 points a night from Wells vs Crawfords "can't get right" ass
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2/2/2006  7:02 PM
Jamal went from "shake-n-bake" to just being "shook" in one season, it's pretty sad actually. I think he's depressed.
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2/2/2006  7:50 PM

and you're basing your assumptions on the optimistic viewpoint there is no mountain Larry Brown can't climb.

Are you arguing that Crawford will get worse? or not improve? Because either is absurd. He's improved every season, albeit gradually. He looks especially bad now, but let the law of averages work out, and he shows flashes again. Larry made Billups better and, while Crawford may never get to that level, he is without question a tradable commodity if developed with patience. Players naturally get better and ignoring that because of a slump in performance isn't going to help you arrive at an accurate evaluation of a player. I guess what I'm saying is, with his potential, there ain't no mountain high enough. And there's no GM worth a spit that would send Crawford splits for a guy who shoots bricks without the benefit of picks or a lick of cap space.

Wells, first of all, isn't coming here - and if you pretend hard enough, it still won't happen. And if he did, Crawford would still get 30 minutes at the 1 and 2 - Wells splits time at 2 and 3, Q gets 25 at 3, Woods gets 10 at 3. Of course, this hypothetical is besides the point because, once again, if you wanted to trade Crawford, waiting would still be the best option.

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2/2/2006  8:00 PM
He's improved every season
Jamal hasn't improved and has never helped a team come close to even making the playoffs
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2/2/2006  8:11 PM
The dreaded "P" word.

Tim Thomas had and still has potential. He is currently out of the league.

Only way Crawford sees thirty minutes a night is if Isiah has his druthers about the roster and we go with Q-Rich Marbury Crawford and Nate. What are the odds of that happening? The other way is if Marbury gets traded. There are 3 yrs, $76 million worth of reasons why that is unlikely.

What is likely to unfold:

LB will get a true point guard. LB will get a reliable starter who can defend at the 2 spot. There is no way Brown allows the roster to bet bogged down another season with 2 career 39% shooting no defense playing chukkers eating up the minutes on the wings & Isiah can't afford Brown to quit.

Next year Woods probably gets a chance to start at the 3. David Lee gets the rest of the SF minutes. That leaves the 96 minutes for the backcourt. Statbury and a true backup point will eat about 53 of those. 30 more for the starting 2 guard leaving about 15 minutes for the fourth guard who presetly is Nate.

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2/2/2006  8:33 PM
Jamal and Q are tissue paper talent
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2/2/2006  9:01 PM
Posted by McK1:

The dreaded "P" word.

Tim Thomas had and still has potential. He is currently out of the league.

Only way Crawford sees thirty minutes a night is if Isiah has his druthers about the roster and we go with Q-Rich Marbury Crawford and Nate. What are the odds of that happening? The other way is if Marbury gets traded. There are 3 yrs, $76 million worth of reasons why that is unlikely.

What is likely to unfold:

LB will get a true point guard. LB will get a reliable starter who can defend at the 2 spot. There is no way Brown allows the roster to bet bogged down another season with 2 career 39% shooting no defense playing chukkers eating up the minutes on the wings & Isiah can't afford Brown to quit.

Next year Woods probably gets a chance to start at the 3. David Lee gets the rest of the SF minutes. That leaves the 96 minutes for the backcourt. Statbury and a true backup point will eat about 53 of those. 30 more for the starting 2 guard leaving about 15 minutes for the fourth guard who presetly is Nate.

Just so you understand, this debate isn't about me convincing you to like Crawford. Because Id have to convince myself first. Its about not undervaluing an asset for which you can receive more in a trade. For every Tim Thomas, there's a Jermine O' Neal late bloomer - so anecdotes here and there offer limited insight into Crawford's development. Regardless of where he ends up, I'll bet that his stock next year is atleast higher than it is now. Trade him for a higher return - not for a roster spot - just as you wouldn't trade your house for a used toothpick. I hope.

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2/2/2006  9:02 PM
Jamal hasn't improved

No
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