[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Enough! The truth about Larry Brown's coaching record!
Author Thread
oohah
Posts: 26600
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/7/2005
Member: #887
1/11/2006  8:42 PM
LOL - Excellent!

Good to see you back oldfan. Let me ask: Can Marbury run a fast break yet, or an uptempo style now? Because it was your assertion that he could not.

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 01-11-2006 8:43 PM]
Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
AUTOADVERT
OldFan
Posts: 21456
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/24/2003
Member: #446
1/11/2006  8:52 PM
Posted by oohah:
LOL - Excellent!

Good to see you back oldfan. Let me ask: Can Marbury run a fast break yet, or an uptempo style now? Because it was your assertion that he could not.

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 01-11-2006 8:43 PM]


Never left - you just exhaust me. Glad to see you're still battling

SlimPack
Posts: 23588
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/14/2005
Member: #1009
USA
1/11/2006  8:54 PM
Posted by oohah:
LOL - Excellent!

Good to see you back oldfan. Let me ask: Can Marbury run a fast break yet, or an uptempo style now? Because it was your assertion that he could not.

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 01-11-2006 8:43 PM]

marbury can but crawford cant. sill dont understand why people think he's a good pg
oohah
Posts: 26600
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/7/2005
Member: #887
1/11/2006  9:04 PM
Never left - you just exhaust me. Glad to see you're still battling

Thanks!

But what about my question: Can Marbury run a fast break yet, or an uptempo style now? Because it was your assertion that he could not about a week and half ago.

oohah



Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
OldFan
Posts: 21456
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/24/2003
Member: #446
1/11/2006  9:10 PM
Posted by oohah:
Never left - you just exhaust me. Glad to see you're still battling

Thanks!

But what about my question: Can Marbury run a fast break yet, or an uptempo style now? Because it was your assertion that he could not about a week and half ago.

oohah

oohah - if I disagree you'll go point by point for the rest of my natural life.

So I'll just say if the Knicks keep winning and they do it running I'm happy to see it.
oohah
Posts: 26600
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/7/2005
Member: #887
1/11/2006  9:15 PM
oohah - if I disagree you'll go point by point for the rest of my natural life.

You might be right!

So I'll just say if the Knicks keep winning and they do it running I'm happy to see it.

That is a fine stance in my opinion.

***

And to answer my own question: Marbury and the youthful personnel on the Knicks excel at an uptempo game.

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
oohah
Posts: 26600
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/7/2005
Member: #887
1/11/2006  9:17 PM
marbury can but crawford cant. sill dont understand why people think he's a good pg

Marbury and JC both excel in a fast-paced game.

I agree that JC is not a 'true' point guard even though he has plenty of PG skills.

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
EnySpree
Posts: 44919
Alba Posts: 138
Joined: 4/18/2003
Member: #397

1/12/2006  12:47 AM
Hey Slimpack.........paragraphs!!!! use paragraphs!!!!! I'm going blind!

I stopped reading your posts. I want to but I'm getting carpal tunnel syndrome in my eye's!!!!!!

[Edited by - enyspree on 01-12-2006 12:52 AM]
Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast https://twitter.com/DiehardknicksPC https://instagram.com/diehardknickspodcast
fishmike
Posts: 53902
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
1/12/2006  8:13 AM
Posted by oohah:
I would love it if you and others would present one fact before you get into this 'your mind is made up' stuff.
pretty much the same facts you have presented. You offer a superior amount of volume with very little content. I never said Larry cant do any wrong, only that you dont know that he did or not, or what his agenda was or wasnt. You would rather put forth your opinion and twist half truths around to support it. Think what you want, but you opnion is getting more and more dodgy with every win. Looks like whatever LB's plan was is working pretty good. Aside from sitting Trevor the Next Marion Ariza that is.

Its message board filibuster.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
Bippity10
Posts: 13999
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/26/2004
Member: #574
1/12/2006  12:07 PM
Yes we can all say that LB mismanaged the roster for the first 28 games. But I defy you to find a team that has a set of vets known for not hustling that are playing as hard as our vets. And I defy you to find a set of young guys that are developing as fast as ours. You can't see it now, and you won't see it when we hit our next hiccup but when this team comes into next season and we all know exactly what we will get from every player on this team before the games begin, it's at that point you will understand.

No coach is ever going to start guys in their home towns as a means to win the game. But some coach's will do that to show the team that noone has earned a starting position in his eyes.

No coach will shuffle players in and out of the rotation, and in and out of the active line-up thinking that will win the game that night. But you will do it to show your team that noone is safe and that those that do things my way will play.

LB spent the first 25 games*(and is still doing it by the way) learning his team. Testing his team. Finding combinations. Testing players to see how they respond. Seeing which players play the best together. Testing plays and see which would work the best. Designing and retinkering his offense to see which plays, sets and styles fit his players the best. He spent the first 25 games helping this team learn an identity which we clearly have now.

Why did he spend 25 games doing this? So he wouldn't have to spend 82-264 games like everyone else.

How do I know he did this for 25 games? Because before the friggin season started he told us it would take 20+ games for him to figure out his team and for his team to figure him out.

Who cares about the first 28 games. This isn't about this year. STop taking it personally. It's about BUILDING AND DEVELOPING. I know it's hard to recognize for NY fans because we've never tried it before.
I just hope that people will like me
martin
Posts: 79084
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
1/12/2006  12:34 PM
Bippity: 2 passing in the last 2 games that must have made you coaches heart throb: The give and go from Marb to Frye back to Marb for the layin. The move to the basket by Lee and dump off to Curry for the easier dunk. Things of beauty: smart passes by big men.
Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
Bippity10
Posts: 13999
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/26/2004
Member: #574
1/12/2006  12:59 PM
^ It was a thing of beauty. I don't even think the players knew they were going to do it. They just did. This team is changing before our eyes.
I just hope that people will like me
oohah
Posts: 26600
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/7/2005
Member: #887
1/12/2006  2:06 PM
pretty much the same facts you have presented. You offer a superior amount of volume with very little content. I never said Larry cant do any wrong, only that you dont know that he did or not, or what his agenda was or wasnt.

You have presented only one "fact": That the GM's 'think' LB is the best coach. You did not come right out and said LB can do no wrong, just that I am not to judge? Well excuuuuuuse me! Give me a break fishmike...just a week or two ago you yourself were unhappy with LB. Your opinion changes with the wind.

You would rather put forth your opinion and twist half truths around to support it.

Tell me one half-truth, or one fact I twisted. I dare you. You can't do it.

Think what you want, but you opnion is getting more and more dodgy with every win.


So because the Kicks have a winning streak now he could not have possibly mishandled the roster over the first 28. Quite logical fishmike.

Looks like whatever LB's plan was is working pretty good.

If his plan was to do everything completely different after 28 games I agree with you.

Aside from sitting Trevor the Next Marion Ariza that is.

Now who is putting forth half-truths? You. By the way, how is Sweetney the next Charles Barkley doing fishmike?

Its message board filibuster.

Before you use a big word like filibuster you should understand its meaning. It means to delay something through speech.

filibuster: 1)To use obstructionist tactics in a legislative body. 2)To take part in a private military action in a foreign country.

oohah


Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
simrud
Posts: 23392
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/13/2003
Member: #474
USA
1/12/2006  2:08 PM
Dude you ever think of just saying your peace and not responding to every sentence separatley, go get a hobby or something lol.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
oohah
Posts: 26600
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/7/2005
Member: #887
1/12/2006  2:13 PM
Yes we can all say that LB mismanaged the roster for the first 28 games. But I defy you to find a team that has a set of vets known for not hustling that are playing as hard as our vets. And I defy you to find a set of young guys that are developing as fast as ours. You can't see it now, and you won't see it when we hit our next hiccup but when this team comes into next season and we all know exactly what we will get from every player on this team before the games begin, it's at that point you will understand.

Yes I know bippity, win or lose LB can do no wrong....

No coach is ever going to start guys in their home towns as a means to win the game. But some coach's will do that to show the team that noone has earned a starting position in his eyes.

Simply B.S.

No coach will shuffle players in and out of the rotation, and in and out of the active line-up thinking that will win the game that night. But you will do it to show your team that noone is safe and that those that do things my way will play.

More B.S. More likely it is an indication that he is looking for the right group of players.

LB spent the first 25 games*(and is still doing it by the way) learning his team. Testing his team. Finding combinations. Testing players to see how they respond. Seeing which players play the best together. Testing plays and see which would work the best. Designing and retinkering his offense to see which plays, sets and styles fit his players the best. He spent the first 25 games helping this team learn an identity which we clearly have now.

And then after the first 25...he simply switched his strategy around completely. Genius!

Why did he spend 25 games doing this? So he wouldn't have to spend 82-264 games like everyone else.

Before he takes his leave?

How do I know he did this for 25 games? Because before the friggin season started he told us it would take 20+ games for him to figure out his team and for his team to figure him out.

"Figuring it out" does not mean just coaching straight nutty...to most people that is.

Who cares about the first 28 games. This isn't about this year. STop taking it personally. It's about BUILDING AND DEVELOPING. I know it's hard to recognize for NY fans because we've never tried it before.

Who took anything personally? I am not the one who is emotionally caught up in LB as a perfect coach like many others around here.

In any case bippity. I don't dins your argument objective. You are simply trying to find an explanation for everything LB does. When it results in a win...he did it right. When it results in a loss...he did it right...therefore he can do no wrong. How can anyone argue with that?

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
simrud
Posts: 23392
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/13/2003
Member: #474
USA
1/12/2006  2:14 PM
allright Plato you win...
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
oohah
Posts: 26600
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/7/2005
Member: #887
1/12/2006  2:15 PM
Dude you ever think of just saying your peace and not responding to every sentence separatley, go get a hobby or something lol.

Dude, did you ever think of responding with something regarding the topic or anything worthwhile at all?

If the way I post bothers you then you are under no obligation to read my posts...lol.

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
simrud
Posts: 23392
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/13/2003
Member: #474
USA
1/12/2006  2:17 PM
Not really, I still have to scroll through miles and miles of your crap when you for some reason have to quoate every freakin sentence, its almost as bad as Bonn quatiing 25 previous responses and then saying something like "agree 100%" LOL
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
Bippity10
Posts: 13999
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/26/2004
Member: #574
1/12/2006  2:33 PM
Ooohaaah: The point that everyone on this board is missing is that I said this was how it would go before teh season started. Why? Because I would have broken the team down too!!! And I was also on record saying that when the team started winning(after about 25 games) you will get everyone on this board saying I told you so thinking that the only reason we are winning is because LB finally started doing things their way. Instead of realizing that we are winning because we are being coached to win. Coaching is more than substitutions and rotations and playing the right guys. Coaching is learning your team and learning how to motivate them.

Whatever, who cares!!! You can dismiss everything I say, but all I know is I have the following

Marbs: ATtempting to lead for the first time in his career
Crawford: Learning what a good shot is for the first time in career
Curry: Gets a nutritionist
Taylor: 7 years of laziness wiped out in 25 games
Robinson: from nut to energizer in 25 games
Lee: From Center/PF to jumpshooting SF in 25 games

Lotta changes are happening for a coach that doesn't know what he is doing. Honestly I can't understand how knowledgeable fans thought that LB thought he could win by shuffling guys in and out of the roster. Maybe you are of the opinion that if we had won a few more games LB might have stuck with that system the entire year thus negating the 8 and 9 man rotations he has lived with for the past 20 years of his career. Not sure where you get the logic. But you win. LB was a bad caoch for 28 games. Great. Now those games are over. Now he has re-learned how to coach and we can all move forward.

I just hope that people will like me
oohah
Posts: 26600
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/7/2005
Member: #887
1/12/2006  2:41 PM
Ooohaaah: The point that everyone on this board is missing is that I said this was how it would go before teh season started. Why? Because I would have broken the team down too!!! And I was also on record saying that when the team started winning(after about 25 games) you will get everyone on this board saying I told you so thinking that the only reason we are winning is because LB finally started doing things their way. Instead of realizing that we are winning because we are being coached to win. Coaching is more than substitutions and rotations and playing the right guys. Coaching is learning your team and learning how to motivate them.
Whatever, who cares!!! You can dismiss everything I say, but all I know is I have the following

Marbs: ATtempting to lead for the first time in his career
Crawford: Learning what a good shot is for the first time in career
Curry: Gets a nutritionist
Taylor: 7 years of laziness wiped out in 25 games
Robinson: from nut to energizer in 25 games
Lee: From Center/PF to jumpshooting SF in 25 games

Lotta changes are happening for a coach that doesn't know what he is doing. Honestly I can't understand how knowledgeable fans thought that LB thought he could win by shuffling guys in and out of the roster. Maybe you are of the opinion that if we had won a few more games LB might have stuck with that system the entire year thus negating the 8 and 9 man rotations he has lived with for the past 20 years of his career. Not sure where you get the logic. But you win. LB was a bad caoch for 28 games. Great. Now those games are over. Now he has re-learned how to coach and we can all move forward.

Bippity, I don't have time right now to break down your post. It seems your main point is "I called it!"

Congratulations Dawg!

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
Enough! The truth about Larry Brown's coaching record!

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy