Posted by fishmike:

read it again:

Originally posted by fishmike:

Just dont give me some crap about this season not mattering though, or that we are rebuilding and its really about a couple years from now. If this season didnt matter we would have stuck with Herb rather than pay $10mm for a guy with a history of favoring veteran players. We wouldnt have given a 5 year deal to guy thats 30. We wouldnt have added Mo Taylor or begged for AD to stay.

My point (if that wasnt clear enough) was that hiring Larry along with the other roster moves were done because winning games was ABSOLUTELY a priority this year.

I then followed with this:

jay, because LB wasnt just brought in here to be a teacher. He was brought in to get wins out of Marbury, Mo T, AD, Q, Jerome James, Crawford, Rose and he's being paid $10mm a year to do so.

Teaching is a part of EVERY coaches job. Or at least it should be. Its implied. There's lots of good teachers around. Looks like Bernie Bickerstaff is doing a good job of teaching in Cha.

Larry Brown is being paid $10mm because we have a roster that costs $150mm+ and owndership wants to see it yield wins.

I bet if you poll GMs or knowledgeable fans that they would agreee 100% with that view

I read again just for you Fishy. It still sounds like you're saying if we're rebuilding we would have kept Herb rather than Larry. I think most knowledgable fans would rather have Larry than Herb teaching our players even if Dolan has to pay extra for the better teacher (Larry).

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by nyk4ever:

I would still take Curry over Sweetney any day of the year. Sweetney was undersized Power Forward and the Knicks replaced him with a 6'11 starting Center for the next 10 years. I'll take that anyday over a undersized PF who struggles to keep his weight where its supposed to be for the next 10 years.

Sweetney isnt struggling this year is he? 12/8 so far... 14/9 over his last 5 games. Shooting over 53%.
But Sweetney is just part of what we gave up. Lets not forget the unprotected #1, the 2 #2's and the switch for the better position in 07

Why do people always talk about Sweetney's weight (hasnt missed a game) but its a non issue for Curry who's sitting because he's out of shape?

Posted by fishmike:

I read again just for you Fishy. It still sounds like you're saying if we're rebuilding we would have kept Herb rather than Larry. I think most knowledgable fans would rather have Larry than Herb teaching our players even if Dolan has to pay extra for the better teacher (Larry).

well that explains a lot. I thought you liked to throw my name out there along with things/views I never said. As it turns out you just have really bad reading comp.
No worries then

Posted by fishmike:

And you criticized me for saying something that's not true! Curry's sitting because of a calf injury, not because he's out of shape. And yes, you can get a calf injury even if you're in ideal physical condition.

and you can get lung cancer if you dont smoke. Funny thing... 98% of people that get lung cancer is from smoke.
Pretty much the same w/ calf

Posted by fishmike:

funny thing about education. If you have to remind people of how much you have it probably doesnt show. Just some advice. No charge.

Posted by fishmike:

no problem. Just from years of actually participating in athletic activity and team sports. You find you pick some things up.

Posted by fishmike:

ok... I've played organized baseball since I was 11. I'm 33. I played organized football for 5 years. Full contact mind you. The best evidence? That came from playing in a men softball league for 6-7 years. I quit because the game bored me and too many fat guys. But I've seen the same thing for years now. When guys are fat and they start playing hard they have calf and ankle problems. Hammy's also. Anyone can pull a hammy, groin or quad. But calfs? Fat guys trying to run hard.

But lets be fair.. it was speculation and an educated guess on my part.

Posted by SlimPack:

^ curry's calf injury is most likely (although not certainly) the result of him being out of shape. I really don't feel like looking up the medical explanation as to why a muscle when it hasnt been used very much and then is suddenly used alot gets strained, but it should be common knowledge that that happens. anyway curry better get in shape quick. already the eddy curry trade is looking like a bad one.



[Edited by - slimpack on 11-25-2005 1:36 PM]

Posted by SlimPack:

you know sometimes I really do think herb may have been the better choice for a coach. I know it sounds crazy but here me out. i remember herb telling ariza to shoot the ball more. but then larry came and criticezed him and to him to shoot it alot less(or something to that effect), now ariza only drives. this team is only successful when the rookies play, perhaps herb would have realized that and we'd have a better offense and less washed up vets getting minutes. but maybe thats just a knee jerk reaction.

[Edited by - slimpack on 11-25-2005 1:48 PM]