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joec32033
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10/29/2005  7:55 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by islesfan:

Health

New Team with a lot of guys who like to shoot

New more demanding coach who won't accept his laziness on the defensive end and poor rebounding

Actually I'm all for getting Wade but I am thinking that Duncan is on the wrong side of 30....
I'm not trying to compare Scott Skiles to Larry Brown becuase there is no comparison but Skiles is a pretty demanding coach. He sat Ben Gordon in Game 6 of the playoffs last year(a game they ultimately lost) for playing out of the offense and being lazy and Curry never got that from Skiles so I don't think we should have to worry about that. I'm starting to think that if the Knicks somehow managed to get Tim Duncan and Dwayne Wade that you would be against that move as well.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 10-28-2005 2:56 PM]


I'm all for Wade but I'm thinking Duncan is getting to the wrong side of 30....

[Edited by - joec32033 on 10-29-2005 07:55 AM]

[Edited by - joec32033 on 10-29-2005 07:56 AM]
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11/4/2005  2:10 AM
Posted by islesfan:

12/5/1 in 50 games. I predict that Curry will miss extended time at some point in the season.


Do you wanna revise that after watxching the first game?

I was sitting right next to you, so I know you know he could have had 30 that game with a few made ft's and a few more fg's that rimmed out.

do you honestly see him having 12 ppg unless he is in foul trouble early in the game?

He can score 12 in a quarter and a half.

AND he played 42 minutes. You know he was tired, but he did it. And by him doing it, he is helping himself get into shape.

He played subpar and put up 19 and 8. I am sticking to my story, 20 and 10, he will make you all believers!!!!!!!!!1111
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11/4/2005  9:46 AM
Before I even clicked on this I knew it was going to be you calling me out on my prediction.

I stand by it. I might be off by a point or 2 but not much more than that. He put up those numbers against Mark Blount. I think you could put up 12/5/2 against that stiff. Even Big Stiff would come close...well maybe not.

That's one game, I didn't get crazy about them losing it and I'm not going to make a big deal about an individual player, unless that player is Crawford since he's been making those same mistakes and playing the way he does for his entire career.
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11/4/2005  1:07 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Before I even clicked on this I knew it was going to be you calling me out on my prediction.

I stand by it. I might be off by a point or 2 but not much more than that. He put up those numbers against Mark Blount. I think you could put up 12/5/2 against that stiff. Even Big Stiff would come close...well maybe not.

That's one game, I didn't get crazy about them losing it and I'm not going to make a big deal about an individual player, unless that player is Crawford since he's been making those same mistakes and playing the way he does for his entire career.

Isles, he averaged 16 against the whole league last year, why would his point production suddenly drop when he is the 2nd or 1st scoring option on this team? I don't get that logic.

AND he has increased his scoring average significantly each year, why would you think that would suddenly take a huge step back?

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11/4/2005  1:49 PM
i'm not going to lie - i haven't seen enough of curry's body of work to really know what kind of post player he is but he does seem to be one of those guys that flourishes from 5 feet and closer. he gets up and dunks it and he definitely feeds off of guard penetration. it doesn't look like he has a post game outside of that area tho. nothing polished yet like a turnaround jumper or a jump hook or fadeaway. so we can't just throw it down low to him and let him operate, like with ewing,....YET. we'll see if that part of his game develops and it's quite possible that it may not have to as he's big enough to get that type of position regularly. but if you notice, outside of the dunks and the alleys, he would get blocked or miss a post move where he was defended. at least that's what happened wednesday.

20 points is EASY for him as we have the guards to get him a ton of easy shots. and he needs to hit FT's as he does get to the line. the 10 on the rebounding end is a different story and one that's remained to be seen.
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11/4/2005  2:01 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by islesfan:

Before I even clicked on this I knew it was going to be you calling me out on my prediction.

I stand by it. I might be off by a point or 2 but not much more than that. He put up those numbers against Mark Blount. I think you could put up 12/5/2 against that stiff. Even Big Stiff would come close...well maybe not.

That's one game, I didn't get crazy about them losing it and I'm not going to make a big deal about an individual player, unless that player is Crawford since he's been making those same mistakes and playing the way he does for his entire career.

Isles, he averaged 16 against the whole league last year, why would his point production suddenly drop when he is the 2nd or 1st scoring option on this team? I don't get that logic.

AND he has increased his scoring average significantly each year, why would you think that would suddenly take a huge step back?


Because he's now on a team that has 3 PG's with a "shoot first" mentality. Because he's on a team with a coach who will sit him if he continues to be lax on defense and on the boards. Because he's still out of shape. Did you see him run out of gas after going 42 minutes in the opener? But like I said, I might be off by a point or 2. If I brought it up to 14-15 is that ok?
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11/4/2005  3:33 PM
already bringing the prediction up to 15? A 25% increase in just one game. Your predictions are certainly very flexible!

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 11-04-2005 3:33 PM]
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11/4/2005  3:59 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

already bringing the prediction up to 15? A 25% increase in just one game. Your predictions are certainly very flexible!

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 11-04-2005 3:33 PM]


I think there's a 75% chance that your parents are blood related. But I could be off by 25%.
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11/4/2005  4:07 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Bonn1997:

already bringing the prediction up to 15? A 25% increase in just one game. Your predictions are certainly very flexible!

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 11-04-2005 3:33 PM]


I think there's a 75% chance that your parents are blood related. But I could be off by 25%.

Ouch. LOL!
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11/4/2005  4:15 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by islesfan:

Before I even clicked on this I knew it was going to be you calling me out on my prediction.

I stand by it. I might be off by a point or 2 but not much more than that. He put up those numbers against Mark Blount. I think you could put up 12/5/2 against that stiff. Even Big Stiff would come close...well maybe not.

That's one game, I didn't get crazy about them losing it and I'm not going to make a big deal about an individual player, unless that player is Crawford since he's been making those same mistakes and playing the way he does for his entire career.

Isles, he averaged 16 against the whole league last year, why would his point production suddenly drop when he is the 2nd or 1st scoring option on this team? I don't get that logic.

AND he has increased his scoring average significantly each year, why would you think that would suddenly take a huge step back?


Because he's now on a team that has 3 PG's with a "shoot first" mentality. Because he's on a team with a coach who will sit him if he continues to be lax on defense and on the boards. Because he's still out of shape. Did you see him run out of gas after going 42 minutes in the opener? But like I said, I might be off by a point or 2. If I brought it up to 14-15 is that ok?
He isnt on a team with 3 pgs. There is one pg on this team and that is Stephon Marbury.

He is the 2nd option, did you ignore that part of my post. The only person who will get more shots than him on some nights is Marbs, and the occasional explosion by Craw or Q.

14-15 is unacceptable, not as a prediction, but as a reality. If he does that we will suck and be in the lottery. we need no less than 18 and 8 from him if we want to have a chance to win games, but I predict 20 and 10, he can do it, and I believe he will.

I guess we'll see. Tonight is a good test.
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11/4/2005  5:11 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Bonn1997:

already bringing the prediction up to 15? A 25% increase in just one game. Your predictions are certainly very flexible!

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 11-04-2005 3:33 PM]


I think there's a 75% chance that your parents are blood related. But I could be off by 25%.

you've been saving that one, haven't you?! now that i've met you i can PICTURE you coming up with that!


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11/4/2005  11:13 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Bonn1997:

already bringing the prediction up to 15? A 25% increase in just one game. Your predictions are certainly very flexible!

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 11-04-2005 3:33 PM]


I think there's a 75% chance that your parents are blood related. But I could be off by 25%.

you've been saving that one, haven't you?! now that i've met you i can PICTURE you coming up with that!

Bonnie just brings the best out in me.

Just playing Bonn.
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11/4/2005  11:15 PM
Killa, take a look at Curry's line tonight.

12 pts, 5 rebs and 0 blocks

Sound familiar?

I was at the game BTW and that was pretty pathetic.
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11/5/2005  1:16 AM
Posted by islesfan:

Killa, take a look at Curry's line tonight.

12 pts, 5 rebs and 0 blocks

Sound familiar?

I was at the game BTW and that was pretty pathetic.


it was foul trouble. He is projected for 30 minutes and played half that amount.

Granted he will be in foul trouble from time to time, but as he fiures out how to stay on the court; he is destined for 20 and 10.

12 and 5 in 15, 20 and 10 in 30......its perfect!!!

12 points on 4 of 7 shooting, in 15 minutes is pretty damn impressive to me.
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11/5/2005  1:22 AM
Come on Killa, he was a complete non factor on offense and especially on defense. How can you even suggest that he was "pretty damn impressive"?
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11/5/2005  1:29 AM
Posted by islesfan:

Come on Killa, he was a complete non factor on offense and especially on defense. How can you even suggest that he was "pretty damn impressive"?


12 points in 15 minutes is a non-factor? He wasn't as effective as he could have been, but do you realize how effective it is to score that many points in that little bit of time?
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11/5/2005  1:36 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by islesfan:

Come on Killa, he was a complete non factor on offense and especially on defense. How can you even suggest that he was "pretty damn impressive"?


12 points in 15 minutes is a non-factor? He wasn't as effective as he could have been, but do you realize how effective it is to score that many points in that little bit of time?


Dude, they were getting blown out with him in the game in the first quarter and they let the Wiz pull away in the 4th with him in the game at the end. You tell me, how effective is that? When the Knicks made their runs it was with Curry on the bench.
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11/5/2005  3:08 AM
By the playoffs Curry will be the "bread and butter" of the team.

And no he won't be "eating the bread and butter" cause I know I am setting myself up with that one.
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11/5/2005  5:48 AM
Posted by Stevo718:

By the playoffs Curry will be the "bread and butter" of the team.

And no he won't be "eating the bread and butter" cause I know I am setting myself up with that one.

LOL. Nice save.
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11/5/2005  2:29 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by islesfan:

Come on Killa, he was a complete non factor on offense and especially on defense. How can you even suggest that he was "pretty damn impressive"?


12 points in 15 minutes is a non-factor? He wasn't as effective as he could have been, but do you realize how effective it is to score that many points in that little bit of time?


Dude, they were getting blown out with him in the game in the first quarter and they let the Wiz pull away in the 4th with him in the game at the end. You tell me, how effective is that? When the Knicks made their runs it was with Curry on the bench.
Are saying Curry made us lose.There are alot of reasons we lost. Do you think we will win games with curry on the bench?

Pencil Curry in for 20 & 10

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