Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by BRIGGS:
one thing I think Knick fans are not understanding right now is that this is a situation much different than when a young Riley came aboard and had a YOUNg Ewing Oakley Starks Mason etc.. that was a team built for guys like Larry Brown. the roster we have right now is so polar opposite --looking at things while taking a step back--there is going to be trouble in the new paradise. These Knick teams as they are built now, would win 1 game at MOST with Knick team in the 90s. They are so far ahead of what this team is, it was different basketball then. If the 92-93-94 etc. Knicks played in the nBA this year, they wouldve wiped the floor with any team in a 7 game series.
someone said the other day this is the best thing to happen in 20 years, and i thought to myself-- did you happen to watch NY Knick basketball in the 90s? The exciting 92 team that went 7 games with the Bulls as they started their rise and how many great regular seasons--and playoff series from there?
Its noice to have Larry brown, but Im concerned in the saem way when we go Marbury--is there TIME to put things together the right way for him to have a real material effect?
NY Knick fans now seem to focus on just getting to the playoffs, and that is fine as LONg as it is a climb upward.
there was GREAT GREAT GREAT optomism when riley came on, because we had great pieces in place. To me, I see a mix matched roster that doesnt fit Larry Brown's style of play and it will take TIME to fix that.
I really view this as much less of a BIG DEAL than Riley. Getting Greg oden would be a great BIg deal.
Not really. That roster was called bad really bad. By Stu Jackson, by the press, and by NBA insiders. There is a reason why Riley changed 2/3 of the team the next year.
If you are telling me right now that Riley thought Mason and Starks were key assets when Riley came here, I am going to tell you are full of something. Starks was an undrafted player who was bagging groceries, Mason was fresh out of the CBA. Ewing was demanding a trade, and Oak was Oak. You had over the hill former superstars, a couple of underacheivers in X-Man and Wilkens.
You have to be kiding me dude. first of John Starks was here before Riley--
Riley came in with
Patrick Ewing
Gerald Wilkins
Charles Oakley
Mark Jackson
all in their prime
if you put the team before Riley got here
C Patrick Ewing
F Charles Oakley
F Kiki Vandeweghe
G Gerald Wilkins
G Mark Jackson
6th man John Starks
Eddie Lee Wilkens
Kenny Walker
Trent Tucker
Mo Cheeks
would wipe the floor with todays Knicks
the next season they added Mason McDaniel and drafted greg Anthony and they almost beat the Bulls in their prime in the 2nd round in a 7 game series. So that core he inherited was great--it wasnt coached well.
Now we have some nice players here, but Patrick Ewing and Oakley alone would do a number EVERY game to the current Knicks inside.
What they did the next years was add MEAN players--all of them mason, mcdaniel anthony
and go back and study this--NO knick played 40 minutes--they played a very split time game using depth--something we better learn to do here.
I like the rookies we added for the most part, but this club needs some enforcers+a franchise big man:>)