Posted by gunsnewing:

I think people will see the importance of Larry Brown when the Pistons with Saunders don't even make it to the eastern conference finals over Miami and Indiana because Larry won't be there to get all those guys to play together and win. Just because Carlisle may be just as good and problably could have won too had he had Rasheed it doesn't diminish Larry's legacy as a great alltime coach. I'll take Carlisle over Saunder anyday. We'll see if Detroit beats miami and indiana this year without Larry!

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by rojasmas:

I don't know. He is a notch below Jackson and Riley if he were coaching in my book. He had a real good team this year and was fortunate to win the Conference championship. If Wade doesn't get hurt, they lose that series. Furthermore, he only made it to the Finals a few times (Sixers, Pistons twice). Look at the resumes of the other two guys. Chuck Daly if he were coaching also dwarfs Larry's achievements. Larry gets a little too much credit in my book. What makes him better than even a Rudy T? Larry won his championship with a damn good team. History will show this. Don't be surprised if Flip Saunders wins one in Detroit now.

the point is Larry and Phil are 2 of the best coaches today. wanna throw Carlisle in there since its only a matter of time before he wins a championship go ahead. Chuck Daly is a heck of a coach too...right up there with those guys. Rudy T never did anything without Hakeem soI wouldn't put him in there with those guys. Again the bottomline and the reason this poll is winning 23-5 is because Knicks fans realize that as good a coach Jackson is he would've never coached this current Knicks team unless changes where made and a cornerstone like a Kobe was brought in otherwise he wouldn't risk his legacy. I command Larry for taking on the challenge. I know he will get the most out of this marginally talented team. Its up to the entire organization to take it a step further and build a championship calibur team.

Hakeem never won anything without Rudy. I don't get why the shoe fits on one foot and not the other. Jordan and Pippen played together for 2 years and NEVER won anything before Phil tookover. Kobe and Shaq played together and lost for 3 years before Phil took over and they started winning championships. Why does the shoe fit on one foot and not the other?

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by gunsnewing:

I think people will see the importance of Larry Brown when the Pistons with Saunders don't even make it to the eastern conference finals over Miami and Indiana because Larry won't be there to get all those guys to play together and win. Just because Carlisle may be just as good and problably could have won too had he had Rasheed it doesn't diminish Larry's legacy as a great alltime coach. I'll take Carlisle over Saunder anyday. We'll see if Detroit beats miami and indiana this year without Larry!

not any bolder than my San Antonio will win the championship last year not Miami or Detroit

I thought it was Dido's job to be the predictor on this board. You are making quite a few bold predictions lately.

And by the way, no one thought the Pistons were going to make it there this year because of teams like the Pacers and the Heat.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07/28/2005 19:06:08]

Posted by gunsnewing:


point is I'm not afraid to make bold predictions when I truly believe in something. like we should've drafted Bynum over Frye or 4yrs ago when I said it was time to trade Kurt Thomas and now we finally have and hopefully I was right about having to move crawford to the bench because he is not a legit starting SG and hopefully we're doing just that by adding Q and hopefully I'm right about Marbury being traded eventually once it becomes clear we have to in order to take it a step further. I've watched these games for years, with my own eyes, there's no reason to hold back on my gut feelings.

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by gunsnewing:


point is I'm not afraid to make bold predictions when I truly believe in something. like we should've drafted Bynum over Frye or 4yrs ago when I said it was time to trade Kurt Thomas and now we finally have and hopefully I was right about having to move crawford to the bench because he is not a legit starting SG and hopefully we're doing just that by adding Q and hopefully I'm right about Marbury being traded eventually once it becomes clear we have to in order to take it a step further. I've watched these games for years, with my own eyes, there's no reason to hold back on my gut feelings.

You should get one of the guys who are going to the Season Ticket Holders thing tonite to give that to Isiah, he might shed a tear.

its just that you said congrats on noticing Tim Duncan's greatness as if everyone had picked the Spurs to win it all. As far as I remember all the talk was centered on Miami and Detroit winning it all which irked me. So I was glad when the Spurs won.

Posted by gunsnewing:


true you did. anyway I'm surprised no one else is responding in this thread. I think who's a better coach for these Knicks is a great debate!

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by Rich:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by Rich:

Like Larry wouldn't have won as many championships as Phil if he had the talent to coach that Phil has had.

No one knows. I like Larry Brown alot but for everyone to be saying he's such a winner and whatnot, the guy has won one title in the NBA while coaching 7 different teams before the Knicks. He's made the playoffs but he's never gotten the title with anyone except the Pistons. You can't say that about Phil Jackson, he makes the playoffs and he wins.

How many championships does Phil win without Jordan, and if you acknowledge that he would have won fewer, does he even get the chance to coach Shaq and Kobe?

how many championships would jordan have won without Phil? NO ONE KNOWS! all you can base it on is what they have already done, not what if.

Posted by Rich:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by Rich:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by Rich:

Like Larry wouldn't have won as many championships as Phil if he had the talent to coach that Phil has had.

No one knows. I like Larry Brown alot but for everyone to be saying he's such a winner and whatnot, the guy has won one title in the NBA while coaching 7 different teams before the Knicks. He's made the playoffs but he's never gotten the title with anyone except the Pistons. You can't say that about Phil Jackson, he makes the playoffs and he wins.

How many championships does Phil win without Jordan, and if you acknowledge that he would have won fewer, does he even get the chance to coach Shaq and Kobe?

how many championships would jordan have won without Phil? NO ONE KNOWS! all you can base it on is what they have already done, not what if.

Jordan is Babe Ruth. He would have won the same number of championships.

[Edited by - Rich on 07/28/2005 19:47:11]