My $.02

We have a center, we have (?) a coach who can play chess with the best (and who never bad-mouthed the Knicks like Phil did), and we have young guys. In short, we have reason to be excited about our team again. I believe Zeke is actually responsible for officially ushering in the REAL 'post-Ewing era'. (The Layden stuff we've been suffering through was just the period after the flush, where the toilet refills...or something like that.)

Anyway, can't wait to get these cats on the floor and hoopin'

Thanks buddy, that was great. It still didn't make any sense but thanks for trying. ("This indicates that maybe you DO makes sense and we are unaware of it as I go on to explian in sentences following." Is that even english?).

So now you're going to pretend that I try to obfuscate my own supposedly failed arguments by bringing up the poor grammar of others. Amusing to say the least. I was trying to have a discussion with you and you got so flustered that you could barely make any sense and it made it pretty difficult to continue so I mentioned your lack of clarity. Maybe next time I should just respond to jibberish so that you can't accuse me of anything.

You should have cut your losses with "Case Closed".

Posted by Killa4luv:

Posted by islesfan:

That's a fallacy that we had "untradeable" players. If you're willing to take back really bad contracts and players whose current teams no longer want then anybody can be traded.

I guess you bought into Isiah's spin about the situation that he walked into. Since he dismisses the salary cap, he couldn't mean that so what else did he have when he got here? He had all of his draft picks, he had a huge expiring deal in McDyess, he had young players in Sweetney, Vujanic and Lampe who were all thought of highly at the time and most of all he had Dolan's unlimited checkbook. If you were willing to tear it down completely and be smart about taking back contracts you definitely had options and it wasn't as bad of a situation as Isiah would have everybody believe.

Ahhhhh, McDyss, Vajunic (who still is not in the NBA incidentally) and LAmpe (who still isn't worth a pile of crap incidentally). Yeah, Isiah really blew it turning that into a star PG in his prime. What was he thinking?

That wasn't the point but that's about par for the course around here.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Bobby:

zeke must be houston's second second favored gm

without the mo taylor trade.....swift does not go to houston

Why not? I thought they signed him for the MLE, which they could have done even with Mo on the roster.

houston's best move was getting rid of taylor before getting stro. if houston waited after getting stro to trade taylor, that deal would've never happen in a million years.....in this case money aint everything, strategy is......zeke has done houston solid, and if he ever leaves ny, houston could be another option

what bonn said

Added: Q-Rich, David Lee, Jerome James, Nate Robinson, Channing Frye, with Larry Brown in the waiting room

Subtracted: Kurt Thomas.

Added ; more conversation and excitement surrounding the Knicks since the draft selection of Partrick Ewing

Subtracted: the foggy malaise that was the Layden Years

Is it time for training camp yet?

Terrible terrible post. Worst I've ever read. Where the heck have you been?

Been halfway decent. Going back to school in Stony brook (They were division 1 at one point, in bball, but I don't think they are anymore) after taking a year off. Other things are swell. How is Mrs. Bippity?

Allanfan20 views of Isiah Thomas as the GM of the Knicks:

I am actually pretty up and down on Isiah. I started a thread a week or 2 ago saying that he's a contradiction with legs and arms. He makes some solid moves like trading for Jamal Crawford, drafting Ariza, trading for Q and a couple of extra picks, and has a solid overall draft. However, he follows some of those moves up with things that just don't make sense, like signing Jerome James, who is 30 and averages 5 and 4, then trades for Mo Taylor, which makes no sense whatsoever. He was even iffy on Mo. You could tell in his interview after that trade.

I'm sure you could imagine that I kinda want him to just let Houston's contract run out, as opposed to waiving him, b/c I still say that even if he remains unhealthy, he could be a positive influence on all the youngies we have on the team now.

I give Zeke a C+. I'm gonna miss Kurt Thomas, but hey, we gotto move on. I think Isiah should do a ballsy move though, which he is yet to do IMO. A move like ohhh, Marbury for Dalembert. Not for the sake of trading Marbury of course, b/c I kinda like him. But for the sake of looking into the future, and really beefing up our frontcourt for the now and manana.

Why not let Craw and Nate run the show. I have confidence that they can be good NY PGs. The go to scorers could be Q and Channing. Nice combo.

However, if Isiah doesn't do something like that, I wouldn't be dissapointed. But either way, I still think he's got a ton of proving to do, b/c I don't think Jerome will be good for NY, even though I'm rooting for him of course. We'll see what happens.

On a sidenote, now that you bring it up, I think I'm pretty much seeing someone right now.

Posted by WOODMANnYk:

I give Isiah credit for being the only G.M. of the knicks within the last 25 yrs for making this team younger and faster..

He's one studded frontcourt player away from making this team an elite.

Hey Detroit had Larry Brown and was one studded frontcourt player away from being an elite team.. That's why they were able acquire Rasheed Wallace and didn't lose anyone..

That's the type of move we need to upgrade the roster into an elite force.

That's what I've been saying all week...

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07/22/2005 14:08:19]

>>I'm excited about Nate too, but I think we should wait to see him against real NBA comp before we consider clearing room for him at the point.

Bipppity - okay, leave Nate Rob hanging out there and watch how many teams LEAP at the chance to give him minutes.

Nate will rock the house

Briggs i'm with you on Nate.

If we land LB don't you think he's just gonna freak on this kid?

Did he do a lot of pressing in college? I mean what could be a better backcourt presser than a defensive back??

One other guy he reminds me of is Bobby Jackson duing his first couple of Sacramento years.