gunsnewing wrote:Pence wasn't overshadowed. He's been the best speaker and leader the past 3 days. Although I loved how Giuliani is able to still command and lead a room. Really hope he accepts the challenge as Secretary of Homeland Security

He was, and the headlines from all sources today show this. Pence is a regressive thinker, who sold out many of his views to be with Trump, but he probably deserved better.

Simply terrible organizing by Trump, and one person pointed out on the radio this morning that some of the things Trump Jr. said should have been left for Pence's speech.

meloanyk wrote:If Trump wins, one can only hope that his narcissistic bravado is a front not a disorder

It is not. If a person shows you themselves, believe them.

When asked what he hoped people would take away from the convention, Mr. Trump said, “The fact that I’m very well liked.”

nykshaknbake wrote:

holfresh wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

holfresh wrote:The idea the Trump kids could have input on running this country is just insane...

They will help keep Trump in check. The members of Trump's cabinet will help run the country. Cabinet looking great so far

Trump kids weren't registered to vote for their father during the primaries..They are going to keep him in check??..You think they care about NATO??

How anyone can have assurance that his kids will make sure Trump has sound policy is laughable. It's kinda scary how people think it's a good thing if he appoints all his family memebers into positions of high power, like a dictator.

WaltLongmire wrote:

arkrud wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

CashMoney wrote:I've been a registered Democrat and have voted as a Democrat since. However, this will be the 1st time in my life that I will vote Republican.

Sure, Trump can be a bit crude to many but I prefer someone who speaks whet they think and draws a clear and distinctive line in the sand.

Hillary is a career politician who, in my opinion, seems to change her stance not because of belief or conviction but because of what she believes is what the voting public desires.

You can play the YouTube flip-flop game all day...

It is very easy to choose between clown and bitch.
Vote for the party you support disregarding the personality of candidate.
Or if you do not support both parties (which are essentially the same) do not wote at all or vote for independent (which is same as do not vote at all)

Respect your life story...but using the word "bitch" tells me a good deal about your mindset. You want to be put into the Scott Baio camp?

Not appropriate, IMO.

Forgive Akrud, he may be watching too many episodes of Real Housewives and listening to too much rap

H1AND1 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

holfresh wrote:With the shots I have taken at Trump, I have to say I'm no fan of Hilary either..Definately an election of lessor of two evils..

The thought of having someone with Hillary Clinton's record of incompetence and dishonesty leading this country. Commander in Chief Hillary Clinton is a total nightmare. A very frightening scenario that will put all our innocent lives at risk

Yesterday Trump said he would abandon NATO allies, specifically those that border Russia and wouldn't defend them. That type of policy, similar to when George Bush I signaled to Saddam that the US wouldn't do anything if Kuwait was invaded is FAR MORE dangerous than anything Hillary has ever even imagined. Putin surely heard that loud and clear and as when he invaded a sovereign European nation recently and annexed land by force you should be positively frightened by the prospect of Trump abandoning the NATO alliance.

Trump is a pathological liar and yet you blame Hillary for dishonesty. I feel like I'm living in la la land. And I'm no Hillary fan and she surely is cagey probably because she's been slandered incessantly for 30 years (By the way a Trump advisor called on her to be shot in front of a firing squad and or locked up for Benghazi when TWO republican lead congressional committees absolved her of any wrongdoing --that kind of talk is beyond the pale and disgusting).

So sure, Hillary is cagey and dishonest about stuff but Trump is literally a pathological liar and probably a sociopath who cares only about himself and who is also wholey ignorant about world and domestic issues. Dangerously ignorant.

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https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/756151451005640705

And this is coming from a Republican...

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https://twitter.com/wsvn/status/755896679476244480

Knickoftime wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Pence wasn't overshadowed. He's been the best speaker and leader the past 3 days. Although I loved how Giuliani is able to still command and lead a room. Really hope he accepts the challenge as Secretary of Homeland Security

He was, and the headlines from all sources today show this. Pence is a regressive thinker, who sold out many of his views to be with Trump, but he probably deserved better.

Simply terrible organizing by Trump, and one person pointed out on the radio this morning that some of the things Trump Jr. said should have been left for Pence's speech.

The scarier narrative emerging from last night, and has credibility since the Trump campaign did KNOW what was going to occur and scheduled it in primetime on Pence's night is that Trump simply is attracted to this sort of chaos and TV/social media drama.

That is entrance Monday night and last night's theatrics IS what defines him and his ambition to be president. That he wants to pick fights and win them. That he really is the WWE candidate.

If that isn't chilling for what it could mean on a national and world stage, I don't know what is.

Thinking like a Kardasian? Any drama is good for your brand?

I do think that on top of the Melania plagiarism scandal, this might be getting him publicity that he doesn't want.

This convention was supposed to do more than simply consolidate the Republican base around an "outsider," it was to attract the independent voter.

He has not achieved this so far.

I would think that his speech tonight will be well scripted and that he won't veer from the teleprompters, but when off script you see what kind of person he is, and I'm not sure it is an appealing look in the minds of the truly undecided.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

holfresh wrote:With the shots I have taken at Trump, I have to say I'm no fan of Hilary either..Definately an election of lessor of two evils..

The thought of having someone with Hillary Clinton's record of incompetence and dishonesty leading this country. Commander in Chief Hillary Clinton is a total nightmare. A very frightening scenario that will put all our innocent lives at risk

Yesterday Trump said he would abandon NATO allies, specifically those that border Russia and wouldn't defend them. That type of policy, similar to when George Bush I signaled to Saddam that the US wouldn't do anything if Kuwait was invaded is FAR MORE dangerous than anything Hillary has ever even imagined. Putin surely heard that loud and clear and as when he invaded a sovereign European nation recently and annexed land by force you should be positively frightened by the prospect of Trump abandoning the NATO alliance.

Trump is a pathological liar and yet you blame Hillary for dishonesty. I feel like I'm living in la la land. And I'm no Hillary fan and she surely is cagey probably because she's been slandered incessantly for 30 years (By the way a Trump advisor called on her to be shot in front of a firing squad and or locked up for Benghazi when TWO republican lead congressional committees absolved her of any wrongdoing --that kind of talk is beyond the pale and disgusting).

So sure, Hillary is cagey and dishonest about stuff but Trump is literally a pathological liar and probably a sociopath who cares only about himself and who is also wholey ignorant about world and domestic issues. Dangerously ignorant.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/756151451005640705

And this is coming from a Republican...

MAtthew Yglesias is NOT a Republican. He is a Harvard grad, who worked for the Atlantic and now Vox. This is a typical hit piece.

Fair enough.

Substantively, what do you think Yglesias got wrong, specifically?

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

meloanyk wrote:If Trump wins, one can only hope that his narcissistic bravado is a front not a disorder

It is not. If a person shows you themselves, believe them.

When asked what he hoped people would take away from the convention, Mr. Trump said, “The fact that I’m very well liked.”

With all Hillary has shown about herself, what do you see?

IMO. Pence was great. IF showing you are a family person who believes in God and Country is "regressive" then so be it.

Cruz was very good and Newt was clinical. The booing was theatrical. People still don't realize how to deal with what is going on. Pundits have been wrong since day one and many will be left scratching their heads the morning after election day.

Im not sure how many people actually watch the convention but I thought the speeches last night were very good. In addition to the big names, Senator Alvardo and Pastor Scott were rousing and others did well unlike last night when Carson and Christie fell flat. As far as Cruz, his lack of endorsement was the media story this morning but Pence made a good initial impression with his personality and ease of delivery . Cruz should have stayed away like Bush and Kasich. He looked stupid towards the end and may have actually helped Donnie Boy , Cruz said Trump knew that he was not giving an endorsement and they had his speech in advance. Trump still let Cruz talk until he flamed out then made his grand appearance turning the Cruz boos into Trump cheers and later shrug off Cruz slight witha chuckle while letting others Pubs belittled him. Made Trump look like the bigger man and appeared to get the Pubs rallying around him