AnubisADL wrote:

nixluva wrote:The Knicks did everything they cold to win a game they had no right being in after STAT went down. This isn't a super deep team after our 6th man. The way they fought in this game was great. I can only hope that we can get healthy by Friday. We're gonna need to be at full strength or near it to win the next game.

Dude why make excuses. The game was in the bag for us. Jefferies cant guard C's.

Our problem is Douglas is a bad man to man defender. I thought I was watching Jamal Crawford tonight.

Serious question: at what point in the game were you relaxed and comfortable in the knowledge that we had this game won?

loweyecue wrote:

VDesai wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

VDesai wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

VDesai wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

Gymkata wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

VDesai wrote:We're talking about a matchup player, in the worst matchup situation for him. We need to score one basket. He is just not an offensive player and when you need one basket he cannot be out there. Every coach at every level plays offense/defense subs and that was a perfect time to sub.

Anyone else andthe defense would have been different and they wouldn't have left him alone under the basket.

Yup. I'm going to go out on a limb and hazard a guess that the play they called wasn't "Fishlips-Tango-Blue-92."

No ****?

The real "No ****?" question is who was going to be open. It was 100% certain Melo was gonna get doubled and the worst offensive player on the floor would've been open. Actually the way they approached that play, they definitely had to assume that ball was going to Jared.

Ok so if JJ wasn't there, Sean Williams was parked on the 3 point line and left alone, he takes a shot and misses. Do you seriously beleive the people on this board wouldn't be yelling for MDA to be fired over that?

I can only speak for myself, but I wouldn't. Shawne Williams all year was 3 point shooter and if he gets an open look, thats still a good shot for you. Given the way Melo was getting smothered- it was gonna be someone else taking that shot. Who else? Shawne Williams taking an open 3 starts sounding like one of your best case scenarios at that point.

I believe you, you don't seem to be one of the people who a re spewing irrational hate on MDA all the time. But when your best option is Sean Williams shooting a three, you are probably gonna lose anyways. It's OK to blame the coach, but even Phil Jackson channeling the spirit of Red Auerbah couldn't coach me, Martin and Nixluva into beating Shaq, Kobe and Fisher. It just doesn't happen that way.

You have to get the best shot possible. It may not have been Shawne Williams getting a 3, but its any one of these other offensive players, they all have a better idea of what to do with the ball in that situation. Jeffries is probably the last player on the squad you want getting the ball there. Even scared 12 year old Landry Fields being out there may have been better. You just can't choose to have the worst offensive player in the league out there in last offensive possesion scenario.

Did you feel the same way when he score go ahead basket before Grnett did his thing? I don't know about that, a layup is still the best percentage shot you can have in that situation. All you have to do is hold the effing rock and go up.
Williams 1-3, Carter 1-3 and Walker 0-11, combined 2-17, these were you shooters. Yeah I would go for the layup as well.

TD 5-16. Fields is in Never-Never land.

martin wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

VDesai wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

VDesai wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

VDesai wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

Gymkata wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

VDesai wrote:We're talking about a matchup player, in the worst matchup situation for him. We need to score one basket. He is just not an offensive player and when you need one basket he cannot be out there. Every coach at every level plays offense/defense subs and that was a perfect time to sub.

Anyone else andthe defense would have been different and they wouldn't have left him alone under the basket.

Yup. I'm going to go out on a limb and hazard a guess that the play they called wasn't "Fishlips-Tango-Blue-92."

No ****?

The real "No ****?" question is who was going to be open. It was 100% certain Melo was gonna get doubled and the worst offensive player on the floor would've been open. Actually the way they approached that play, they definitely had to assume that ball was going to Jared.

Ok so if JJ wasn't there, Sean Williams was parked on the 3 point line and left alone, he takes a shot and misses. Do you seriously beleive the people on this board wouldn't be yelling for MDA to be fired over that?

I can only speak for myself, but I wouldn't. Shawne Williams all year was 3 point shooter and if he gets an open look, thats still a good shot for you. Given the way Melo was getting smothered- it was gonna be someone else taking that shot. Who else? Shawne Williams taking an open 3 starts sounding like one of your best case scenarios at that point.

I believe you, you don't seem to be one of the people who a re spewing irrational hate on MDA all the time. But when your best option is Sean Williams shooting a three, you are probably gonna lose anyways. It's OK to blame the coach, but even Phil Jackson channeling the spirit of Red Auerbah couldn't coach me, Martin and Nixluva into beating Shaq, Kobe and Fisher. It just doesn't happen that way.

You have to get the best shot possible. It may not have been Shawne Williams getting a 3, but its any one of these other offensive players, they all have a better idea of what to do with the ball in that situation. Jeffries is probably the last player on the squad you want getting the ball there. Even scared 12 year old Landry Fields being out there may have been better. You just can't choose to have the worst offensive player in the league out there in last offensive possesion scenario.

Did you feel the same way when he score go ahead basket before Grnett did his thing? I don't know about that, a layup is still the best percentage shot you can have in that situation. All you have to do is hold the effing rock and go up.
Williams 1-3, Carter 1-3 and Walker 0-11, combined 2-17, these were you shooters. Yeah I would go for the layup as well.

TD 5-16. Fields is in Never-Never land.

Part of the mastery in D'AnToni's development of youth, according to many he hasn't been Fields since a couple weeks before the trade.

Juice wrote:

martin wrote:TD 5-16. Fields is in Never-Never land.

Part of the mastery in D'AnToni's development of youth, according to many he hasn't been Fields since a couple weeks before the trade.

you have a thing for MDA. if there is any possible way to tie MDA to something that could possibly be thought of in a negative way, you try to do it, whether it's relevant or not.

AnubisADL wrote:

VDesai wrote:TD is getting ripped, but that was a tough game for him. He had one player to get the ball to and he was being heavily denied the ball and triple teamed- and he is being killed for not orchestrating. I thought he did ok. He had some shots rim out- he's not always gonna have his shots fall. But he played hard and hit the boards and grabbed a lot of key rebounds. What was horrendous about his game tonight is how he played defense in foul trouble. But he doesn't have a ton of experience doing that and he did it dreadfully tonight. But ultimately I think its a game he'll learn from. I'm surprised at how much he is criticized on this board. In my eyes he's come a long way and he has stepped up and driven the team to victory in a lot of games this year.

Dude seriously no excuse for Douglas. The guy has been getting ABUSED by PGs. Jennings DESTROYED him. Rondo DESTROYED him. Rose DESTROYED him. Any PG with speed pretty much abuses him because he is an overrated defender like Jefferies. Douglas gambles way too much and when he cant gamble on plays he gets exposed.

As I said throughout the season. If Douglas isnt scoring buckets he is USELESS. Dude cant run the offense to save his life.

He has run the offense enough to have a pretty good record when forced into PG duties. For a guy who has never played PG he has come a very long way. I think he keeps getting better. Douglas is a good player for the Knicks who had a bad game tonight. I won't defend the way he played defensively- I think he is great in certain matchups and generally his agresiveness is a positive. I think the Knicks have had problems against PG's for years, no matter who was playing PG, because we don't have a consistent lane deterrent and no one the guards can funnell players too. Good penetrating PGs win games every time when the lane is not defended. Douglas' clear issue tonight was not knowing how agressive to be when playing in foul trouble- and he's gotta learn from this experience.

I can't believe how many times I heard people say the Knicks would've been better of without Melo in Game 1. Really? Point is good players can have bad games.

VDesai wrote:I wonder what people would've said about Starks if he was scrutinized day to day on the internet.

folks still gripe over the game he had in the finals...

Mray20 wrote:The officiating in this series is horrible! Even though Melo was doing his thing he was hit a few times and no calls, Garnett is dirty he moves on screens constantly and handchecks an holds and gets away with it.