knicks1248 wrote:Maan watching FIZDALE post game conferences after every Laker Lost is such a reminder of how bad that guy is.

How he even has a job is beyond me

Glad to see your self actualization has some effect. We start with the irrelevant then move to the big stuff in your life.

Many things are beyond you. The more you see them the more you know your journey has begun. Congradulations.

Clean wrote:I have to admit for the 1st time ever the thought of Lebron maybe being the best ever is starting to creep into my mind. It was always MJ for me but what Lebron is able to do in his advanced years is starting to turn the tide for me. He is in year 19 and still as dominant as ever. He does have a little advantage in that he came from HS instead of playing 3 years in college but its still extremely impressive.

That he accomplished those stats in those years adds to his greatness.
GOATS are hard to compare. Jordan’s was forged because he had two Three Peats. It also came with a very protected image while he exploited and broke thru marketing ceilings at the same time. His private life was protected.
Kareem had longevity and chips. He had years he was unstoppable.
Jordan’s bulls were great with few if any true competition in a post expansion era that might have been diluted of talent at that time.
Not taking anything away from his greatness. But to me it stands shoulder to shoulder with Kareem, Wilt, Russell and Lebrons. Hard to quantify really.
Lebron has haters and won’t see his body of work until its over and measured.

Clean wrote:I have to admit for the 1st time ever the thought of Lebron maybe being the best ever is starting to creep into my mind. It was always MJ for me but what Lebron is able to do in his advanced years is starting to turn the tide for me. He is in year 19 and still as dominant as ever. He does have a little advantage in that he came from HS instead of playing 3 years in college but its still extremely impressive.

Over the last couple of days there were some stats pushed out by several NBA people. AMAZING

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KnickDanger wrote:My dislike for lebron isn't about his transcendent ability. He's a...what's the word we use around here? Oh yeah, a douche. I am honestly glad he was never a Knick. I'd have to root for him. It would feel like paying for sex. Or perhaps being paid for it?

I hated Jordan. He ****ed us up many times. Came in to the garden in the spring and it was a plaything.
The rules, the touch fouls…….the endless fawning and his arrogance was hard to take. But you take it and admire it. Lebron is arrogant and has pushed his will because he had leverage to do so. Jordan was held hostage by a salary cap that he could not make the kind of money, not even close elsewhere.
He could not conspire because teams could not pay him.

Durant, Harden and team lose to a Clippers without PG3 and lots of others.

Spurs lose to Detroit.

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martin wrote:The NBA is wild.

Durant, Harden and team lose to a Clippers without PG3 and lots of others.

Spurs lose to Detroit.

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I see the nba is back to giving a ton of FT's to Harden, Trae Young etc again- disappointing, but predictable.

Those Vegas stat lines aren’t going to produce themselves

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Nalod wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:My dislike for lebron isn't about his transcendent ability. He's a...what's the word we use around here? Oh yeah, a douche. I am honestly glad he was never a Knick. I'd have to root for him. It would feel like paying for sex. Or perhaps being paid for it?

I hated Jordan. He ****ed us up many times. Came in to the garden in the spring and it was a plaything.
The rules, the touch fouls…….the endless fawning and his arrogance was hard to take. But you take it and admire it. Lebron is arrogant and has pushed his will because he had leverage to do so. Jordan was held hostage by a salary cap that he could not make the kind of money, not even close elsewhere.
He could not conspire because teams could not pay him.

I'm reluctant to say I "hate" -- but I strongly disliked Jordan and I hated the deference of refs and Garden posers cheering him on. Your point that he would have manipulated rosters like Labronna if had the leverage is likely true. But he never danced for the cameras in a 'decision" after leading Knicks fans on so if I have to make a Sophie's Choice and send one to Hell, it's LBJ.

You hold on to grudges and not allow for a man to mature?
Lebron was awful early on. His ability to manipulate Rosters is really non of our business. He applied his leverage and perhaps the optics was not great. Jordan uses to bully his teammates to serve his winning needs. He was brutal in practice. He hit steve Kerr! LOL
Lebron wanted to share winning. Magic Johnson was like this. Jordan was sociopath for winning. Had to take nearly two seaosns off either for burnout or Stern punishment.
The Decision was awful. Jordan did not dance, but Lebron exibits joy and we fault him for it? A bit harsh.

Bill Russell was no saint off the court with family. Thats his business. Wilt? Arrogant, spend whole seasons to make a point, and ****ed everything in sight! LOLJabbar was misunderstod and mistrusted for his move to Islam. He was moody and not cooperative to marketing forces. Jordan off court affairs, fights with teammates, etc,……..all these guys come with flaws. Lebron has put in enough work on his body and game to warrant we look past them and just admire him on Mt Rushmore with others. Not always nice people but their quests don’t always come without paying prices. The goats are scrutinized and we want to tear them down as to humanize them.