KnickDanger wrote:Not a black and white issue and I don't wish to derail the point of this thread too much, but it is very possible even likely that just in the instance of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, they may have actually limited the amount of suffering that would have occurred in an invasion of Japan - both for the Japanese and American forces. It's also possible with the genie out of the bottle the reality and horror have prevented further use in combat. If one is to put themselves in the mindset of Americans in 1945 there would have been outrage if we didn't use it. Perhaps also worth mentioning is the amount of human suffering the Japanese government and military caused.

Not saying it was a good thing and I pray it isn't unleashed again, but not to be painted with a broad brush as revisionist history tends to do I suggest.

That argument that we the US was trying to prevent further losses from a invasion, how true was that ? I always accepted it, but why would we have had to invade ? We could have kicked the Japanese out of China, Korea, and the Philippines and done an embargo of Japan and pulled out remaining forces. The bombs were detonated to punish the Japs and to scare the Russians, Id argue.

Alpha1971 wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:Not a black and white issue and I don't wish to derail the point of this thread too much, but it is very possible even likely that just in the instance of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, they may have actually limited the amount of suffering that would have occurred in an invasion of Japan - both for the Japanese and American forces. It's also possible with the genie out of the bottle the reality and horror have prevented further use in combat. If one is to put themselves in the mindset of Americans in 1945 there would have been outrage if we didn't use it. Perhaps also worth mentioning is the amount of human suffering the Japanese government and military caused.

Not saying it was a good thing and I pray it isn't unleashed again, but not to be painted with a broad brush as revisionist history tends to do I suggest.

That argument that we the US was trying to prevent further losses from a invasion, how true was that ? I always accepted it, but why would we have had to invade ? We could have kicked the Japanese out of China, Korea, and the Philippines and done an embargo of Japan and pulled out remaining forces. The bombs were detonated to punish the Japs and to scare the Russians, Id argue.

Punishing the Japanese and moreover scaring the Soviet Union are very valid points. Overall, I don't think one can definitively state what were all the causes and consequences, hence me saying none of this should be painted with a broad brush. The human suffering is not debatable, and the specter of nuclear bombs is the ongoing consequence. All these factors and more have been tossed around by historians, pundits, and you and me since August 1945.

firefly wrote:The Bear.

The Bear.

The Bear.

THE BEAR!!!!

Finally started and I went through it quick. I was iffy about a show centered around the restaurant industry. But the show is deeper than that and the character development/interpersonal drama is really captivating.

I’m trying to figure out if I’m a tightwad or not. Got Disney, no Hulu. Want Hulu. Looking at bundles.

All these packages/options are a pain in the nut sack.

BigDaddyG wrote:

fwk00 wrote:SweetTooth is great.

Extraction 1 is average... II is awful.

Luther is thumbs up.

Sweet tooth went very under the radar. I think the people get wrong impression because it has sort of this superficial fairytale tone. But it's a very dark show. Hope it gets renewed.

The show is a lot of fun, great casting, writing. The special effects are amazing. The cinematography stood out, even with all the CGI.

Makes me want to buy an Xbox lol, which is partly the point I guess. They put in elements from the game which was cool.

“I’ve asked an AI to generate a trailer for a HEIDI movie and now I can never sleep again,” filmmaker and comic Patrick Karpiczenko posted to Twitter on July 10.

KnickDanger wrote:I have rabbit ear tv and see a lot of channels with medicare advantage, cricket cell phone, and adult diaper ads.

I used to listen to right wing radio and all their ads were how to avoid speeding tickets, how to negotiate lower IRS tax settlements, and how to buy Canadian Viagra.

ToddTT wrote:So which of you tightwads subscribes to streaming services with ads?

I’m trying to figure out if I’m a tightwad or not. Got Disney, no Hulu. Want Hulu. Looking at bundles.

All these packages/options are a pain in the nut sack.

What cell service do you have? I have T-Mobile and they give Hulu and Tidal for free. I also have Fios for my internet at home. They give Disney+ for free as an add on.

Fast zombies? Sign me up.

I also enjoy some of the “quirkiness” that I attribute to cultural differences. Including dialog and interactions between characters.

A couple of character arcs crack me up. But I won’t comment on them because they are spoilery.

I thought maybe I liked it more than I should have, but Rotten Tomatoes and others agree.