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Knickoftime
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7/21/2016  2:17 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Pence wasn't overshadowed.

Turn on a cable news network. Check the websites.

You're mistaken.

But maybe it doesn't matter, because any day now the subliminal message intended with Mrs. Trump's plagiarism is going to kick in and people will be talking about that..

no thanks lol
no interest in what cnn, msnbc, huffington post, ny times, or daily news has to say

Pick your preferred venue. Show me a link showing Pence is the lead story over Cruz.

Any link.

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7/21/2016  2:22 AM
holfresh wrote:With the shots I have taken at Trump, I have to say I'm no fan of Hilary either..Definately an election of lessor of two evils..

The thought of having someone with Hillary Clinton's record of incompetence and dishonesty leading this country. Commander in Chief Hillary Clinton is a total nightmare. A very frightening scenario that will put all our innocent lives at risk

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7/21/2016  2:27 AM
There is nothing standard about Trump. And that's a beautiful thing. One of the speakers made a great point. Forgot who.

What would you rather have? A leader who is brutally honest to a fault or a leader who is brutally DISHONEST?

Knickoftime
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7/21/2016  2:33 AM
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holfresh wrote:With the shots I have taken at Trump, I have to say I'm no fan of Hilary either..Definately an election of lessor of two evils..

The thought of having someone with Hillary Clinton's record of incompetence and dishonesty leading this country. Commander in Chief Hillary Clinton is a total nightmare. A very frightening scenario that will put all our innocent lives at risk

With all genuine sincerity gunsnewing, I hope you choose to educate yourself on the issues before November and make a choice from an informed standpoint whatever that choice may be.

Or maybe you already are and you choose just to ape talking points and campaign commercial platitudes. But at the moment, I think if I asked you to cite an actual, specific reason why you'd be less safe under Hilary Clinton, I don't suspect I'd get an answer.

I'll even help.

How is Donald Trump going to stop or intimidate people already willing to die to kill you. Which candidate uniquely has a solution to that dilemma?

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7/21/2016  2:37 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:With the shots I have taken at Trump, I have to say I'm no fan of Hilary either..Definately an election of lessor of two evils..

The thought of having someone with Hillary Clinton's record of incompetence and dishonesty leading this country. Commander in Chief Hillary Clinton is a total nightmare. A very frightening scenario that will put all our innocent lives at risk


I hate to defend Hilary to be honest..But republicans have been coming at her for 25 years of public service...So she is going to be soiled going in..Hilary doesn't have her own ideas but goes according to consensus and polls..Hilary is hawkish with regards to the military, republicans should love that..Republicans all wanted to go into Lybia, Syria and Iraq like Hilary..Trump said yes then no to Lybia..Hilary is more aggressive with foreign policy than Trump..Republicans just hate Hilary..
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7/21/2016  2:38 AM
gunsnewing wrote:There is nothing standard about Trump. And that's a beautiful thing. One of the speakers made a great point. Forgot who.

What would you rather have? A leader who is brutally honest to a fault or a leader who is brutally DISHONEST?

Do you live in a bubble? You honestly believe the lies Trump tells casually and daily?

For two days he sent his campaign manager out to claim his wife's speech wasn't plagiarized and that Hilary Clinton was responsible for drawing attention to it. Hours later he admitted it was plagiarized.

That was just TODAY's lies.

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7/21/2016  3:01 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/21/2016  3:09 AM
You are right KOT that is a tough one. I would stop immigration and bringing in refugees from those countries until the worldwide threat of radical Islam under control 100%, defunded and stripped of financial and nuclear power. In addition, I would do a better job of closely monitoring all domestic terrorist activity. All words and actions that can be considered dangerous, un-American and unpatriotic immediately rectified.

Harsher penalties and less cuddling of illegal immigrant violent criminals. A more streamline and efficient process for good lawabbiding immigrants who wilfully assimilate to our American way of life. We need more common sense. Something Hillary clearly lacks.

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7/21/2016  3:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/21/2016  3:28 AM
The idea the Trump kids could have input on running this country is just insane...The neocons and conservatives the ilk of William Buckely and George Will are quaking in their boots...
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7/21/2016  3:29 AM
holfresh wrote:The idea the Trump kids could have input on running this country is just insane...

They will help keep Trump in check. The members of Trump's cabinet will help run the country. Cabinet looking great so far

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7/21/2016  9:05 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:With the shots I have taken at Trump, I have to say I'm no fan of Hilary either..Definately an election of lessor of two evils..

The thought of having someone with Hillary Clinton's record of incompetence and dishonesty leading this country. Commander in Chief Hillary Clinton is a total nightmare. A very frightening scenario that will put all our innocent lives at risk

Yesterday Trump said he would abandon NATO allies, specifically those that border Russia and wouldn't defend them. That type of policy, similar to when George Bush I signaled to Saddam that the US wouldn't do anything if Kuwait was invaded is FAR MORE dangerous than anything Hillary has ever even imagined. Putin surely heard that loud and clear and as when he invaded a sovereign European nation recently and annexed land by force you should be positively frightened by the prospect of Trump abandoning the NATO alliance.

Trump is a pathological liar and yet you blame Hillary for dishonesty. I feel like I'm living in la la land. And I'm no Hillary fan and she surely is cagey probably because she's been slandered incessantly for 30 years (By the way a Trump advisor called on her to be shot in front of a firing squad and or locked up for Benghazi when TWO republican lead congressional committees absolved her of any wrongdoing --that kind of talk is beyond the pale and disgusting).

So sure, Hillary is cagey and dishonest about stuff but Trump is literally a pathological liar and probably a sociopath who cares only about himself and who is also wholey ignorant about world and domestic issues. Dangerously ignorant.

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7/21/2016  9:10 AM
Knickoftime wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:With the shots I have taken at Trump, I have to say I'm no fan of Hilary either..Definately an election of lessor of two evils..

The thought of having someone with Hillary Clinton's record of incompetence and dishonesty leading this country. Commander in Chief Hillary Clinton is a total nightmare. A very frightening scenario that will put all our innocent lives at risk

With all genuine sincerity gunsnewing, I hope you choose to educate yourself on the issues before November and make a choice from an informed standpoint whatever that choice may be.

Or maybe you already are and you choose just to ape talking points and campaign commercial platitudes. But at the moment, I think if I asked you to cite an actual, specific reason why you'd be less safe under Hilary Clinton, I don't suspect I'd get an answer.

I'll even help.

How is Donald Trump going to stop or intimidate people already willing to die to kill you. Which candidate uniquely has a solution to that dilemma?


why do research when you can "feel good" about the guy/gal you are voting for? That is what these elections are about, and its why we have the candidates we have. Guns has decided Trump is the guy because he "feels good" about his immigration rhetoric, and that's enough. The rest of the issues... Trump will figure those out because he's a good guy. That's pretty much status quo. The stuff Guns is saying is 100% the normal status quo.

Politics have been made into Yankees/Redsox or maybe more like sunnis vs Shiites. The problem is if you even consider something the "other" candidate says you might as well be rooting for the other team. Guns is far from unique in this trait. I think its more the norm than anything.

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7/21/2016  9:13 AM
H1AND1 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:With the shots I have taken at Trump, I have to say I'm no fan of Hilary either..Definately an election of lessor of two evils..

The thought of having someone with Hillary Clinton's record of incompetence and dishonesty leading this country. Commander in Chief Hillary Clinton is a total nightmare. A very frightening scenario that will put all our innocent lives at risk

Yesterday Trump said he would abandon NATO allies, specifically those that border Russia and wouldn't defend them. That type of policy, similar to when George Bush I signaled to Saddam that the US wouldn't do anything if Kuwait was invaded is FAR MORE dangerous than anything Hillary has ever even imagined. Putin surely heard that loud and clear and as when he invaded a sovereign European nation recently and annexed land by force you should be positively frightened by the prospect of Trump abandoning the NATO alliance.

Trump is a pathological liar and yet you blame Hillary for dishonesty. I feel like I'm living in la la land. And I'm no Hillary fan and she surely is cagey probably because she's been slandered incessantly for 30 years (By the way a Trump advisor called on her to be shot in front of a firing squad and or locked up for Benghazi when TWO republican lead congressional committees absolved her of any wrongdoing --that kind of talk is beyond the pale and disgusting).

So sure, Hillary is cagey and dishonest about stuff but Trump is literally a pathological liar and probably a sociopath who cares only about himself and who is also wholey ignorant about world and domestic issues. Dangerously ignorant.

yea but he's gonna fix stuff and has great kids and will set these politicians straight so you are missing the point.
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7/21/2016  9:21 AM
fishmike wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:With the shots I have taken at Trump, I have to say I'm no fan of Hilary either..Definately an election of lessor of two evils..

The thought of having someone with Hillary Clinton's record of incompetence and dishonesty leading this country. Commander in Chief Hillary Clinton is a total nightmare. A very frightening scenario that will put all our innocent lives at risk

Yesterday Trump said he would abandon NATO allies, specifically those that border Russia and wouldn't defend them. That type of policy, similar to when George Bush I signaled to Saddam that the US wouldn't do anything if Kuwait was invaded is FAR MORE dangerous than anything Hillary has ever even imagined. Putin surely heard that loud and clear and as when he invaded a sovereign European nation recently and annexed land by force you should be positively frightened by the prospect of Trump abandoning the NATO alliance.

Trump is a pathological liar and yet you blame Hillary for dishonesty. I feel like I'm living in la la land. And I'm no Hillary fan and she surely is cagey probably because she's been slandered incessantly for 30 years (By the way a Trump advisor called on her to be shot in front of a firing squad and or locked up for Benghazi when TWO republican lead congressional committees absolved her of any wrongdoing --that kind of talk is beyond the pale and disgusting).

So sure, Hillary is cagey and dishonest about stuff but Trump is literally a pathological liar and probably a sociopath who cares only about himself and who is also wholey ignorant about world and domestic issues. Dangerously ignorant.

yea but he's gonna fix stuff and has great kids and will set these politicians straight so you are missing the point.

True!

Here's a good rundown of Trump and Hillary's misdeeds. Everyone can judge for themselves!

http://washingtonmonthly.com/2016/07/17/the-trump-and-clinton-awfulness-relativity-index/

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7/21/2016  9:53 AM
I've been a registered Democrat and have voted as a Democrat since. However, this will be the 1st time in my life that I will vote Republican.

Sure, Trump can be a bit crude to many but I prefer someone who speaks whet they think and draws a clear and distinctive line in the sand.

Hillary is a career politician who, in my opinion, seems to change her stance not because of belief or conviction but because of what she believes is what the voting public desires.


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7/21/2016  10:04 AM
CashMoney wrote:I've been a registered Democrat and have voted as a Democrat since. However, this will be the 1st time in my life that I will vote Republican.

Sure, Trump can be a bit crude to many but I prefer someone who speaks whet they think and draws a clear and distinctive line in the sand.

Hillary is a career politician who, in my opinion, seems to change her stance not because of belief or conviction but because of what she believes is what the voting public desires.


You can play the YouTube flip-flop game all day...

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7/21/2016  10:10 AM
Knickoftime wrote:
CashMoney wrote:I've been a registered Democrat and have voted as a Democrat since. However, this will be the 1st time in my life that I will vote Republican.

Sure, Trump can be a bit crude to many but I prefer someone who speaks whet they think and draws a clear and distinctive line in the sand.

Hillary is a career politician who, in my opinion, seems to change her stance not because of belief or conviction but because of what she believes is what the voting public desires.


You can play the YouTube flip-flop game all day...

It is very easy to choose between clown and bitch.
Vote for the party you support disregarding the personality of candidate.
Or if you do not support both parties (which are essentially the same) do not wote at all or vote for independent (which is same as do not vote at all)

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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7/21/2016  10:56 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/21/2016  10:57 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:The idea the Trump kids could have input on running this country is just insane...

They will help keep Trump in check. The members of Trump's cabinet will help run the country. Cabinet looking great so far

Trump kids weren't registered to vote for their father during the primaries..They are going to keep him in check??..You think they care about NATO??

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7/21/2016  11:34 AM
arkrud wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
CashMoney wrote:I've been a registered Democrat and have voted as a Democrat since. However, this will be the 1st time in my life that I will vote Republican.

Sure, Trump can be a bit crude to many but I prefer someone who speaks whet they think and draws a clear and distinctive line in the sand.

Hillary is a career politician who, in my opinion, seems to change her stance not because of belief or conviction but because of what she believes is what the voting public desires.


You can play the YouTube flip-flop game all day...

It is very easy to choose between clown and bitch.
Vote for the party you support disregarding the personality of candidate.
Or if you do not support both parties (which are essentially the same) do not wote at all or vote for independent (which is same as do not vote at all)

My vote will be for a third party candidate as a protest . Both candidates are flawed, people will vote for what best fits their ideologies and self interests. Many will vote simply on the basis of race. Old hag Hillary is a shrieking political machine who doesn't inspire any confidence that she can jump start the nation while zany Trump is not versed at all in affairs to warrant holding the highest office

Something tells me that Trump will win against all odds and reason as the passion for change is real and increasing. Too many don't like the stagnation in wages, the focus and direction towards the left, the perceived weakness of leadership and the events . The last few weeks have just heightened the sense that law and order is failing on many fronts

If Trump wins, one can only hope that his narcissistic bravado is a front not a disorder and that he is intelligent enough to refine some positions and listen and lean on the knowledge and experience of advisers

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7/21/2016  11:39 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/21/2016  11:43 AM
Honest?

How many things that are absolute BS has he said on the campaign trial? Do the people he's screwed that did buisness with him think he's honest? The man has never done a thing in his life for anyone but himself. Yet after 80 years, he's suddenly different. The man was even making money off his campaign by funneling all activities through his buisnesses.

Look, Hilary is a crook and should be in jail, but its laughable if you think there is an ounce of sincerity or honesty in Donald Trump.


gunsnewing wrote:There is nothing standard about Trump. And that's a beautiful thing. One of the speakers made a great point. Forgot who.

What would you rather have? A leader who is brutally honest to a fault or a leader who is brutally DISHONEST?

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7/21/2016  11:40 AM
fishmike wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:With the shots I have taken at Trump, I have to say I'm no fan of Hilary either..Definately an election of lessor of two evils..

The thought of having someone with Hillary Clinton's record of incompetence and dishonesty leading this country. Commander in Chief Hillary Clinton is a total nightmare. A very frightening scenario that will put all our innocent lives at risk

With all genuine sincerity gunsnewing, I hope you choose to educate yourself on the issues before November and make a choice from an informed standpoint whatever that choice may be.

Or maybe you already are and you choose just to ape talking points and campaign commercial platitudes. But at the moment, I think if I asked you to cite an actual, specific reason why you'd be less safe under Hilary Clinton, I don't suspect I'd get an answer.

I'll even help.

How is Donald Trump going to stop or intimidate people already willing to die to kill you. Which candidate uniquely has a solution to that dilemma?


why do research when you can "feel good" about the guy/gal you are voting for? That is what these elections are about, and its why we have the candidates we have. Guns has decided Trump is the guy because he "feels good" about his immigration rhetoric, and that's enough. The rest of the issues... Trump will figure those out because he's a good guy. That's pretty much status quo. The stuff Guns is saying is 100% the normal status quo.

Politics have been made into Yankees/Redsox or maybe more like sunnis vs Shiites. The problem is if you even consider something the "other" candidate says you might as well be rooting for the other team. Guns is far from unique in this trait. I think its more the norm than anything.


So this is a Lebron vs Jordan debate?
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