nyknickzingis wrote:Can someone give me a recap missed this one had to work. NY lost by a point and had a chance to win it against the best home team in the league. I take that as an achievement in terms of how far we've come. A year ago this wasn't even a consideration. Grant is also looking like he's playing better. We're 1 impact player away from being a contender, in my opinion.

Someone give me a recap if they can, please.

Knicks were up 9 in first half.

Then down by 10 late in 4th.

Went on 11-2 or something run to close within 1.

Then triple-teamed Melo passed to open Calderon for wining shot at buzzer . . . and it didn't fall.

blkexec wrote:

nixluva wrote:

blkexec wrote:We need a star player that can get to the rim, and draw a foul. It's that simple. But we don't have that right now. But we do have a tall 7'3 player, who only needs a second for a pick and a lob pass. It's either and 1 or a foul on the way up. KP is light in the ass and would look like he got killed on that lob pass.

Giving the ball to Melo at the half court line, on a panic pass by Galo like it was a hot potatoe was not the right play to run, when down by 1 point. Come on guys....We blew a great chance at winning this game....It's that simple. Yes, we have lots of holes on defense to fix. Yes, we knew that before the season started. That doesn't excuse the no time out call at the end of this game......over 85% of the coaches in this league would've called a timeout. Fisher was undecided!

I can understand your point but it's one game and I'm sure a learning experience for the whole team. More than a time out we need an upgrade at PG! Someone who can take control of the team rather than give it to MELO all the time.

I agree 100% with you and all the other optimistic fans.

This just brings out the competitor in me, when we have a game we can win, and we lose. Especially against a top team like the Spurs. Some might not want to hear this, but I think if it was brandon Jennings with the ball in his hands, instead of Gallo, we would've won this game. Instead of Jose, we would've won this game. Oh well......

I think it's just me that believes we can play better than what we are seeing right now....And it's only the simple things thats in our way. I text my boy and said, if the knicks had me and my boy at the guard position, Parker and Ginobli wouldn't have drove to the cup so easy.....And we are not NBA guards....You don't need a star player to have lateral quickness and defensive IQ. Thats what we are lacking, during close out games like this. Jimmer isn't the answer....We need defensive guards....I was hoping Grant would be that guard to fill that void. And I still think he can be.

I think Grant be, too. I think they can get better from here, too. This was a measuring stick game and we're still short... but it was real damn close.

But with Grant at PG Knicks got outscored 7-4 in the first five minutes of the 4th quarter. 4 points in 5min.

When Jose came in to close the 4th the Knicks offense instantly picked up and the Knicks outscored the Spurs 21-14 over the next 7 minutes. Jose still does a very good job running this offense.

Again:

Grant 4th - Spurs up 7-4 in five minutes

Jose 4th - Knicks up 21-14 in seven minutes

nixluva wrote:

blkexec wrote:

nixluva wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:Great game too bad it ended in a loss... In terms of consistency ... I want to see KP be this aggressive every night ... Kid is a game changer if he plays with this kinda energy he will propel us into the playoffs

Knicks play like this against 98% of teams they win! This was even with major disadvantage at PG!!! If Phil can somehow upgrade the PG spot it would make a HUGE difference!

Knicks play to the level of their competition....Thats why this win was so important to steal. KP was hyped up because he knows the Spurs are the best team. Aflalo and Melo was too hyped up, which is why there started off 1-6 and 2-12

Even with that terrible shot percentage, we still had a chance to win. Maybe it will feel better in the morning....But I don't like any loses, especially the ones we should've won!

Just for perspective, NO ONE has beaten the Spurs at home! The Knicks almost pulled it off by inches! As long as the Knicks keep playing like this they will completely change their season!

+ 1 and I know I hated on fish but love that he has solid dyed the rotation it makes a BIG difference! Players now know there roles . The ball movement and defense have been outstanding our confidance is oozing right now...

Biggest problem tonight dwill was a ghost . If he came in with his energy he was bringing the last 3 games. we might have pulled this one out for a w... Let's get dwill back up for next game.

Malcolm wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Can someone give me a recap missed this one had to work. NY lost by a point and had a chance to win it against the best home team in the league. I take that as an achievement in terms of how far we've come. A year ago this wasn't even a consideration. Grant is also looking like he's playing better. We're 1 impact player away from being a contender, in my opinion.

Someone give me a recap if they can, please.

Great game.

Knicks were up 9 in first half.

Then down by 10 late in 4th.

Went on 11-2 or something run to close within 1.

Then triple-teamed Melo passed to open Calderon for wining shot at buzzer . . . and it didn't fall.

fitzfarm wrote:

nixluva wrote:

blkexec wrote:

nixluva wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:Great game too bad it ended in a loss... In terms of consistency ... I want to see KP be this aggressive every night ... Kid is a game changer if he plays with this kinda energy he will propel us into the playoffs

Knicks play like this against 98% of teams they win! This was even with major disadvantage at PG!!! If Phil can somehow upgrade the PG spot it would make a HUGE difference!

Knicks play to the level of their competition....Thats why this win was so important to steal. KP was hyped up because he knows the Spurs are the best team. Aflalo and Melo was too hyped up, which is why there started off 1-6 and 2-12

Even with that terrible shot percentage, we still had a chance to win. Maybe it will feel better in the morning....But I don't like any loses, especially the ones we should've won!

Just for perspective, NO ONE has beaten the Spurs at home! The Knicks almost pulled it off by inches! As long as the Knicks keep playing like this they will completely change their season!

+ 1 and I know I hated on fish but love that he has solid dyed the rotation it makes a BIG difference! Players now know there roles . The ball movement and defense have been outstanding our confidance is oozing right now...

Biggest problem tonight dwill was a ghost . If he came in with his energy he was bringing the last 3 games. we might have pulled this one out for a w... Let's get dwill back up for next game.

Other even biggest issue tonight Jose's defense, we need to upgrade the starting pg. and if we can't move Jose bring him off the bench

gunsnewing wrote:

blkexec wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Did we have a timeout? Don't know if it was the smartest play to just give it to Melo guarded by Kawhi on that last possession; that's pretty tough, although he did find jose for a decent shot.

right i thought we had a 20 second timeout left?

TIMEOUT COACH...THIS ISN'T THE LAKER CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM WITH KOBE AND SHAQ

So the Spurs can set their defense?

We looked a bit discombobulated out there around halfcourt. A timeout would have been a wise thing to do, IMO.

I think they were looking to Fisher to see if they should call a time out.

Yep....I saw that. And Fisher did exactly what Phil did with the Lakers, when they had Kobe and Shaq. This team isn't ready for that no timeout play at the end.....Not yet. They need every single win they can get to build momentum and make a statement for themselves and others.

This bozo team has been pushing final plays without calling a time out since Woodson, Dantoni & Isiah before that. And it used to led to Melo hoisting a 30ft shot against 4-5 defenders. This time Melo passed. That is more important to this teams future than winning 1 regular season game. It's what we've all been begging for all these years. And the same people who begged Melo to pass off on the last shot for once in his basketball life are the same people being overly critical of a hard caught loss vs a team that is undefeated at home

blkexec wrote:

nixluva wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:I don't mind Jose starting but don't wanna see him to finish out games... Has nothing to do with the last shot... Jose's defense just killed us tonight ... He did not have a vintage game tonight...

I like Jose but he's not supposed to be a starter at this point in his career! We MUST upgrade the PG spot and add another SG too. Can't depend on AA as the only true SG! Phil needs to get this done. Knicks are not far off from the better teams if you could upgrade the PG!

You can say Jose and Gallo shouldn't be the closers for an NBA team. That just shows you how weak we are at the guard positions.....Gallo only has 1 gear, and thats when he's successful. So you can't trust Gallo to make the right offensive IQ play, unless he goes in a straight line. Jose is Jose, a typical veteran guard off the bench....But he's starting and finishing games. Something is wrong with that too. I trust Phil sees the same things I'm seeing, and just doesn't have the right move to make right now. So I'll stick with that. Jimmer is not the answer, from what I can see. He has turn style defense as well.

I agree - I think Phil will be looking to upgrade the PG this off-season.

But again - Knicks outscored the Spurs 21-14 in the 4th with Jose on the floor.

Malcolm wrote:It's nice that I'm retired and don't have to get up and go to work in the morning . . .

gunsnewing wrote:

blkexec wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Did we have a timeout? Don't know if it was the smartest play to just give it to Melo guarded by Kawhi on that last possession; that's pretty tough, although he did find jose for a decent shot.

right i thought we had a 20 second timeout left?

TIMEOUT COACH...THIS ISN'T THE LAKER CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM WITH KOBE AND SHAQ

So the Spurs can set their defense?

We looked a bit discombobulated out there around halfcourt. A timeout would have been a wise thing to do, IMO.

I think they were looking to Fisher to see if they should call a time out.

Yep....I saw that. And Fisher did exactly what Phil did with the Lakers, when they had Kobe and Shaq. This team isn't ready for that no timeout play at the end.....Not yet. They need every single win they can get to build momentum and make a statement for themselves and others.

This bozo team has been pushing final plays without calling a time out since Woodson, Dantoni & Isiah before that. And it used to led to Melo hoisting a 30ft shot against 4-5 defenders. This time Melo passed. That is more important to this teams future than winning 1 regular season game. It's what we've all been begging for all these years. And the same people who begged Melo to pass off on the last shot for once in his basketball life are the same people being overly critical of a hard caught loss vs a team that is undefeated at home

You are right.....I'm mad at Melo for hoisting 30fter's over 4 defenders. And I'm mad at Melo for not hoisting that last 30fter over multiple defenders. I'm sorry to say it, but it's hard for Melo to win for me. I'm not a biggest Melo fan. But he's getting better....He made the right play. All good.

BUT.....

If he wants to be one of the greatest.....He needs to learn how to draw a foul at the end of games, instead of bailing the defense out with that jumper. If he had a quicker setup move, and a quick first step, he could've forced the ref to make a call. But thats not his game, and he doesn't get calls. So thats part of the reason why I can't put him with the NBA greats, eventhough he's making NBA great money. And this is why I was slightly upset at Melo for even asking for the max, when he knows hes not that type of max player to win these types of games.

The good news is that we are inching our way to developing a Spurs like culture of winning....I can see it coming. I'm just the typical impatient NYer, that was in diapers during our last championship.....Thats a long as wait. At least my parent saw a Knick chamionship in their life time, will we?

Malcolm wrote:It's nice that I'm retired and don't have to get up and go to work in the morning . . .

You don't have to be retired to not work on a Saturday.....But I'm still envy of that, especially on week days.