Dagger wrote:I could have had a bigger impact on this game than Novak by merely sacrificing my body a few plays. He is a 3pt specialist that can't hit open threes and the other aspects of his "game" are truly non-existent. He's not like Amar'e who can rebound and occasionally intimidate people with his size or get weak-side blocks, he can't do anything but brick 3's. I hate seeing this piece of TRASH on the court.

And why is everyone hating on Felton? I think he had a nice game, he almost brought us back into it at the end.

Felton had a nice game?

because he hit 2 4th quarter layups when the game was practically out of reach?

HE SUCKED!!

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

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mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

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gunsnewing wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

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holfresh wrote:The Novak stint changed the tenor of the game ...Dude can't guard anyone..

You know the team was +6 with him in the game and -12 with him out?

welcome to the thread Bonn

yes - Novak was great today (based on the BS +/-)

You serious?

Thats what happens when you don't watch the game and watch the boxscore

I watched about 80% of the game (and even posted here during it).

Didn't you even state how +/- is a bad barometer?

You are too funny (in the not funny way)

A barometer is good or bad depending on what it's attempting to measure - it can't be good or bad in a vacuum. (That would be attorney - like black and white thinking!)

If the claim is simply "the team got killed when Novak was in" then +/- is the exact stat you would look at (just as a matter of logic) to see what the score was when the player was in.

As explained above, I would never use it above WS, WP or any other validated measure when assessing a player's specific contributions though.

So if Novak was in the game and a non factor while the knicks stinky guards actually knocked down a few shots and made a good run

then

Novak was in the game again and the stinkys missed shots and Novak killed them by him missing wide opens and playing no defense - does not always show up.

reading box scores, I can see how you drum these up - watching momentum change - not a good picture

Should we be playing Novak 40 minutes a game since he is so great in the advanced stats?

Maybe

That's not what's been happening all season. It's the exact opposite coincidentally.

should we start him?

I don't care who starts - total min are what matters. I'd rather see Novak getting more min and Shumpert fewer at SF.

So you would like to see Novak get 40 minutes a game and you think that the team would be better off because of it?

Dagger wrote:I could have had a bigger impact on this game than Novak by merely sacrificing my body a few plays. He is a 3pt specialist that can't hit open threes and the other aspects of his "game" are truly non-existent. He's not like Amar'e who can rebound and occasionally intimidate people with his size or get weak-side blocks, he can't do anything but brick 3's. I hate seeing this piece of TRASH on the court.

And why is everyone hating on Felton? I think he had a nice game, he almost brought us back into it at the end.

IMO it's not Felton, but JR handling the ball too much. I understand we need to stretch things with Prigs hurt, but still. JR is awful at PG.

nixluva wrote:

Dagger wrote:I could have had a bigger impact on this game than Novak by merely sacrificing my body a few plays. He is a 3pt specialist that can't hit open threes and the other aspects of his "game" are truly non-existent. He's not like Amar'e who can rebound and occasionally intimidate people with his size or get weak-side blocks, he can't do anything but brick 3's. I hate seeing this piece of TRASH on the court.

And why is everyone hating on Felton? I think he had a nice game, he almost brought us back into it at the end.

IMO it's not Felton, but JR handling the ball too much. I understand we need to stretch things with Prigs hurt, but still. JR is awful at PG.

Felton sucks and JR sucks

great!

We are primed

nixluva wrote:

Dagger wrote:I could have had a bigger impact on this game than Novak by merely sacrificing my body a few plays. He is a 3pt specialist that can't hit open threes and the other aspects of his "game" are truly non-existent. He's not like Amar'e who can rebound and occasionally intimidate people with his size or get weak-side blocks, he can't do anything but brick 3's. I hate seeing this piece of TRASH on the court.

And why is everyone hating on Felton? I think he had a nice game, he almost brought us back into it at the end.

IMO it's not Felton, but JR handling the ball too much. I understand we need to stretch things with Prigs hurt, but still. JR is awful at PG.

What happens is that Melo minutes needs to be watch and Martin needs to play more minutes because Melo will need his energy taking extra pg duties. He is and has been one of the better Pnr ball handlers.

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Dagger wrote:I could have had a bigger impact on this game than Novak by merely sacrificing my body a few plays. He is a 3pt specialist that can't hit open threes and the other aspects of his "game" are truly non-existent. He's not like Amar'e who can rebound and occasionally intimidate people with his size or get weak-side blocks, he can't do anything but brick 3's. I hate seeing this piece of TRASH on the court.

And why is everyone hating on Felton? I think he had a nice game, he almost brought us back into it at the end.

Felton had a nice game?

because he hit 2 4th quarter layups when the game was practically out of reach?

HE SUCKED!!

Hey Knickshot Felton sucked...No one else played...

did I not call anyone else out?

Uhh... who is obsessed?

Felton is awesome and you are a fool

No one is saying Felton played great..Im saying there are tons of other reasons we lost...Hell most of the board is saying the same thing...U are the only dude with a bug up your arse about Felton...

MSG3 wrote:Big factor in this game was not getting Melo the ball in the 4th and STAT sitting. Tyson Stat Melo should have been out there. I'm losing confidence in Woodson every game. Hope I'm wrong.

No your not, he baffles me at times like crazy, he has a deep bench and plays 8 guys, no prigs, no martin, no camby, and no shump and amare for most of the 4th qtr.

He is still trying to figure his line up out, instead playing according to match ups, which is a luxury when you have a deep bench but he is such a dick when comes to reconizing who to play and when.

nixluva wrote:

Dagger wrote:I could have had a bigger impact on this game than Novak by merely sacrificing my body a few plays. He is a 3pt specialist that can't hit open threes and the other aspects of his "game" are truly non-existent. He's not like Amar'e who can rebound and occasionally intimidate people with his size or get weak-side blocks, he can't do anything but brick 3's. I hate seeing this piece of TRASH on the court.

And why is everyone hating on Felton? I think he had a nice game, he almost brought us back into it at the end.

IMO it's not Felton, but JR handling the ball too much. I understand we need to stretch things with Prigs hurt, but still. JR is awful at PG.

Prigs is not hurt. His phatom injury allowed Woodson to move Kidd to the bench. Woodson fears Kidd