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6/19/2013  8:59 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/19/2013  9:14 AM
The non-calls at the end are distracting from how well and even the whole series has been officiated. Actually, even in this game Miami was called for five more fouls and SAS had seven more free throw attempts. It's not like Miami was being passive - Lebron and Wade were definitely attacking the basket.
I think Nalod's right. The refs just didn't want to hand San Antonia a championship on a foul call. If you wanted to fix the game for Miami, this is NOT how you would do it. You wouldn't be balanced (or possibly slightly favor SAS) all game and then have two blatant bad calls favoring Miami at the end. You'd subtly favor Miami all game and not let it even come down to a final play.
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6/19/2013  9:17 AM
Vmart wrote:This shyt is set up. ABC AND NBA WANT SEVEN. Rating and earning NBA no different than WWF. Everyone is in on it including the players and coaches. I have no problem with the Heat comeback but the swallowed whistles is something that I can't stand the ref have way to much control over the game and can and do decide the outcomes. Green got fouled Ginobili got fouled.

With that said if there is one player to blame for SA loss it's hands down Ginobili. Pop pulling Duncan out of game that was the icing on the cake for me now the coach wants to take his best defender out of the game ridiculous. I'm watching the game waiting for Miami to play desperate and waiting for the refs to swallow their whistle sure enough it all happened.

i don't know.... it looked to me like the heat must have done some real film work and realized that ginobili telegraphs his passes.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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6/19/2013  9:51 AM
crazy officiating in the game, went both ways with wild calls, not consistent, too much acting by players, ugly to watch,

spurs in 7 LET'S GO TIM DUNCAN GREATEST PF OF ALL TIME

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6/19/2013  9:59 AM
IronWillGiroud wrote:crazy officiating in the game, went both ways with wild calls, not consistent, too much acting by players, ugly to watch,

spurs in 7 LET'S GO TIM DUNCAN GREATEST PF OF ALL TIME

AMD That is my biggest problem.. wild calls, not consistent, too much acting.. just ugly...

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6/19/2013  10:02 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:The non-calls at the end are distracting from how well and even the whole series has been officiated. Actually, even in this game Miami was called for five more fouls and SAS had seven more free throw attempts. It's not like Miami was being passive - Lebron and Wade were definitely attacking the basket.
I think Nalod's right. The refs just didn't want to hand San Antonia a championship on a foul call. If you wanted to fix the game for Miami, this is NOT how you would do it. You wouldn't be balanced (or possibly slightly favor SAS) all game and then have two blatant bad calls favoring Miami at the end. You'd subtly favor Miami all game and not let it even come down to a final play.

you and nalod have a point, but as ironwill said in the following post, too much acting, not cosistent with the calls, just ugly.. the game looks like a 3 ring circus with guys falling all over the place, especially lebron, wade and bosh.. just ugly... I know manu was fouled and I would have loved to have seen that called simply because it wasn't the challenge of a shot or dunk, but ray allen was beat and he reached knowing the refs would not blow the whistle and he just hacked him.. I hate that..

good game, until the end, it just got wild and out of control it seemed.....

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6/19/2013  10:03 AM
playa2 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Uptown wrote:So, are we excusing Pop just because he's a hall of fame coach? Why wasn't Duncan on the floor at the end? His absence led to the offensive rebound and 3....Why is Parker not on the floor for the last shot when he's made big time shots in this series?

who is excusing him? there was no guarantee duncan gets the rebound... he gets the benefit of the doubt because he is probably one of the greatest coaches of all time, or maybe we should just put you on the bench for game 7? I dunno?

AFTER 10YRS OF POSTING YOU STILL TALK FOOLISHNESS.

The guy could stand flat foot and get a rebound, Pop over analyzed and made a horrible coaching decision. Jeff Vandummy said if Leonard makes the 2nd free throw I would take Bosh out of the game, well Bosh got the big offensive rebound when Lebron was clanking long jumpshots.

Look at the clown talking... how is don chaney and the blueprint doing playa? rofl

Oh BTW the spurs brung it for 48 minutes... why didn't the heat fold?

ok, you can climb back in your hole..

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6/19/2013  10:05 AM
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:The non-calls at the end are distracting from how well and even the whole series has been officiated. Actually, even in this game Miami was called for five more fouls and SAS had seven more free throw attempts. It's not like Miami was being passive - Lebron and Wade were definitely attacking the basket.
I think Nalod's right. The refs just didn't want to hand San Antonia a championship on a foul call. If you wanted to fix the game for Miami, this is NOT how you would do it. You wouldn't be balanced (or possibly slightly favor SAS) all game and then have two blatant bad calls favoring Miami at the end. You'd subtly favor Miami all game and not let it even come down to a final play.

you and nalod have a point, but as ironwill said in the following post, too much acting, not cosistent with the calls, just ugly.. the game looks like a 3 ring circus with guys falling all over the place, especially lebron, wade and bosh.. just ugly... I know manu was fouled and I would have loved to have seen that called simply because it wasn't the challenge of a shot or dunk, but ray allen was beat and he reached knowing the refs would not blow the whistle and he just hacked him.. I hate that..

good game, until the end, it just got wild and out of control it seemed.....


People just don't realize how hard the NBA is to ref, and part of that is due to bad PR by the league. Give some serious thought to all the info. in this thread, including the articles linked in it.
http://apbr.org/metrics/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8249
It might change how you feel when you watch games in the future.
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6/19/2013  10:07 AM
IronWillGiroud wrote:
playa2 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Uptown wrote:So, are we excusing Pop just because he's a hall of fame coach? Why wasn't Duncan on the floor at the end? His absence led to the offensive rebound and 3....Why is Parker not on the floor for the last shot when he's made big time shots in this series?

who is excusing him? there was no guarantee duncan gets the rebound... he gets the benefit of the doubt because he is probably one of the greatest coaches of all time, or maybe we should just put you on the bench for game 7? I dunno?

AFTER 10YRS OF POSTING YOU STILL TALK FOOLISHNESS.

The guy could stand flat foot and get a rebound, Pop over analyzed and made a horrible coaching decision. Jeff Vandummy said if Leonard makes the 2nd free throw I would take Bosh out of the game, well Bosh got the big offensive rebound when Lebron was clanking long jumpshots.

pop with a rare slip, but he is human we can't really go too crazy over it,

still a lot of flopping both sides it was not fun to watch in the last minutes,

and the problem is that nba ball is NNEVER fun to watch in the last minutes, so they should fix this

BINGO!! it is a free for all, and teams know refs won't blow the whistle so they hack away... time to change that.. such a disadvantage if you are down... manu clearly beat ray allen.... so why should he be punished.. tell ray allen to move his old ass legs and play defense...

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6/19/2013  10:07 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
playa2 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Uptown wrote:So, are we excusing Pop just because he's a hall of fame coach? Why wasn't Duncan on the floor at the end? His absence led to the offensive rebound and 3....Why is Parker not on the floor for the last shot when he's made big time shots in this series?

who is excusing him? there was no guarantee duncan gets the rebound... he gets the benefit of the doubt because he is probably one of the greatest coaches of all time, or maybe we should just put you on the bench for game 7? I dunno?

AFTER 10YRS OF POSTING YOU STILL TALK FOOLISHNESS.

The guy could stand flat foot and get a rebound, Pop over analyzed and made a horrible coaching decision. Jeff Vandummy said if Leonard makes the 2nd free throw I would take Bosh out of the game, well Bosh got the big offensive rebound when Lebron was clanking long jumpshots.


What happened to the road court advantage? Did SAS not "bring it"?

LOL you beat me to it.. I am surprised this guy even crawled out of his hole to post anything....

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6/19/2013  10:11 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/19/2013  10:23 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:The non-calls at the end are distracting from how well and even the whole series has been officiated. Actually, even in this game Miami was called for five more fouls and SAS had seven more free throw attempts. It's not like Miami was being passive - Lebron and Wade were definitely attacking the basket.
I think Nalod's right. The refs just didn't want to hand San Antonia a championship on a foul call. If you wanted to fix the game for Miami, this is NOT how you would do it. You wouldn't be balanced (or possibly slightly favor SAS) all game and then have two blatant bad calls favoring Miami at the end. You'd subtly favor Miami all game and not let it even come down to a final play.

you and nalod have a point, but as ironwill said in the following post, too much acting, not cosistent with the calls, just ugly.. the game looks like a 3 ring circus with guys falling all over the place, especially lebron, wade and bosh.. just ugly... I know manu was fouled and I would have loved to have seen that called simply because it wasn't the challenge of a shot or dunk, but ray allen was beat and he reached knowing the refs would not blow the whistle and he just hacked him.. I hate that..

good game, until the end, it just got wild and out of control it seemed.....


People just don't realize how hard the NBA is to ref, and part of that is due to bad PR by the league. Give some serious thought to all the info. in this thread, including the articles linked in it.
http://apbr.org/metrics/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8249
It might change how you feel when you watch games in the future.

oh I understand I officiated some HS and church league games.. It was hard with these kids becoming better athletes, quicker, faster... It is not easy at all, you have to make a call in a split second and stand by it... I had a game end up in a brawl with parents and players, a church league.. it was ugly, the police came and arrested a lot of parents.. It is not easy.. but these guys get tons of training, they have more guys on the floor... we know mistakes happen, but the lack of consistency bothers me and it all started when stern and his unspoken word policy of letting star players get the benefit of the doubt.. Stop trying to influence games, stop trying to manufacture stars, let the game take care of itself.

BTW good find bonn, I read the article, interesting actually, i agree, NBA games are not easy, my problem is not so much the officials but the league offices, the ones who make the rules, who dictate how games should be played and called...

classic example.. if lebron wants to continue to do his back up to half court and run downhill for his half back dive, then any contact outside of a flagrant foul is ok... on that fast break last night where danny green made a good play on lebron and lebron lost the ball out of bounds.. That was a great no call on green by the refs, but lebron clearly wiped green out with an elbow, watch the play, and he gets away with that all of the time.. I want to see guys win on skill and talent...

in other words I am not a carmelo fan at all, but as much as lebron gets away with the elbows the bulldozing his way to the basket, carmelo should never be called for an offensive foul.... he actually absorbs a lot of punishment,it is as if the refs chose who can and cannot play physical... I agree carmelo bullies his way to the basket and should not get rewarded going to the line and he doesn't a lot of times.... just because guys like durant and carmelo don't act like they get shot when they are fouled doesn't mean they aren't... I can't stand the miami heat and the over acting.. it makes the game hard to officiate and just makes it ugly as hell... the league has to address this..

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6/19/2013  10:13 AM
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:The non-calls at the end are distracting from how well and even the whole series has been officiated. Actually, even in this game Miami was called for five more fouls and SAS had seven more free throw attempts. It's not like Miami was being passive - Lebron and Wade were definitely attacking the basket.
I think Nalod's right. The refs just didn't want to hand San Antonia a championship on a foul call. If you wanted to fix the game for Miami, this is NOT how you would do it. You wouldn't be balanced (or possibly slightly favor SAS) all game and then have two blatant bad calls favoring Miami at the end. You'd subtly favor Miami all game and not let it even come down to a final play.

you and nalod have a point, but as ironwill said in the following post, too much acting, not cosistent with the calls, just ugly.. the game looks like a 3 ring circus with guys falling all over the place, especially lebron, wade and bosh.. just ugly... I know manu was fouled and I would have loved to have seen that called simply because it wasn't the challenge of a shot or dunk, but ray allen was beat and he reached knowing the refs would not blow the whistle and he just hacked him.. I hate that..

good game, until the end, it just got wild and out of control it seemed.....


People just don't realize how hard the NBA is to ref, and part of that is due to bad PR by the league. Give some serious thought to all the info. in this thread, including the articles linked in it.
http://apbr.org/metrics/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8249
It might change how you feel when you watch games in the future.

oh I understand I officiated some HS and church league games.. It was hard with these kids becoming better athletes, quicker, faster... It is not easy at all, you have to make a call in a split second and stand by it... I had a game end up in a brawl with parents and players, a church league.. it was ugly, the police came and arrested a lot of parents.. It is not easy.. but these guys get tons of training, they have more guys on the floor... we know mistakes happen, but the lack of consistency bothers me and it all started when stern and his unspoken word policy of letting star players get the benefit of the doubt.. Stop trying to influence games, stop trying to manufacture stars, let the game take care of itself.

If you get 5% of the calls wrong and there are a thousand calls and non-calls a game, it's impossible to look "consistent."
You're asking for something a human can't do.
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6/19/2013  10:19 AM

I wanted the spurs to win but thought it was called well.

Only Jordan gets that call that Manu did not get. To me Manu looked a bit out of control as he often does and with a championship on the line the Refs whistle don't win it. I thought Lebron got roughed up a bit and there were lots of no calls.

Spurs must be devistated.

Ray allens shot was so freaking good it was sick. Very hard shot but that was his moment.

Obvious game 7 favors the Heat for all the momentum and historical reasons but Nobody has won two in a row this series!

Spurs brought it for 48 minutes, but they needed 53!
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6/19/2013  10:22 AM
Nalod wrote:
I wanted the spurs to win but thought it was called well.

Only Jordan gets that call that Manu did not get. To me Manu looked a bit out of control as he often does and with a championship on the line the Refs whistle don't win it. I thought Lebron got roughed up a bit and there were lots of no calls.

Spurs must be devistated.

Ray allens shot was so freaking good it was sick. Very hard shot but that was his moment.

Obvious game 7 favors the Heat for all the momentum and historical reasons but Nobody has won two in a row this series!

Spurs brought it for 48 minutes, but they needed 53!


Ray's shot was great but he looks like a 46 year old out there.
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6/19/2013  10:24 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
I wanted the spurs to win but thought it was called well.

Only Jordan gets that call that Manu did not get. To me Manu looked a bit out of control as he often does and with a championship on the line the Refs whistle don't win it. I thought Lebron got roughed up a bit and there were lots of no calls.

Spurs must be devistated.

Ray allens shot was so freaking good it was sick. Very hard shot but that was his moment.

Obvious game 7 favors the Heat for all the momentum and historical reasons but Nobody has won two in a row this series!

Spurs brought it for 48 minutes, but they needed 53!


Ray's shot was great but he looks like a 46 year old out there.

lol true

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6/19/2013  10:24 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:The non-calls at the end are distracting from how well and even the whole series has been officiated. Actually, even in this game Miami was called for five more fouls and SAS had seven more free throw attempts. It's not like Miami was being passive - Lebron and Wade were definitely attacking the basket.
I think Nalod's right. The refs just didn't want to hand San Antonia a championship on a foul call. If you wanted to fix the game for Miami, this is NOT how you would do it. You wouldn't be balanced (or possibly slightly favor SAS) all game and then have two blatant bad calls favoring Miami at the end. You'd subtly favor Miami all game and not let it even come down to a final play.

you and nalod have a point, but as ironwill said in the following post, too much acting, not cosistent with the calls, just ugly.. the game looks like a 3 ring circus with guys falling all over the place, especially lebron, wade and bosh.. just ugly... I know manu was fouled and I would have loved to have seen that called simply because it wasn't the challenge of a shot or dunk, but ray allen was beat and he reached knowing the refs would not blow the whistle and he just hacked him.. I hate that..

good game, until the end, it just got wild and out of control it seemed.....


People just don't realize how hard the NBA is to ref, and part of that is due to bad PR by the league. Give some serious thought to all the info. in this thread, including the articles linked in it.
http://apbr.org/metrics/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8249
It might change how you feel when you watch games in the future.

oh I understand I officiated some HS and church league games.. It was hard with these kids becoming better athletes, quicker, faster... It is not easy at all, you have to make a call in a split second and stand by it... I had a game end up in a brawl with parents and players, a church league.. it was ugly, the police came and arrested a lot of parents.. It is not easy.. but these guys get tons of training, they have more guys on the floor... we know mistakes happen, but the lack of consistency bothers me and it all started when stern and his unspoken word policy of letting star players get the benefit of the doubt.. Stop trying to influence games, stop trying to manufacture stars, let the game take care of itself.

If you get 5% of the calls wrong and there are a thousand calls and non-calls a game, it's impossible to look "consistent."
You're asking for something a human can't do.

I guess so, and if that is the case then where do yo go from here bonn? the game wasn't always this way..

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6/19/2013  10:25 AM
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
playa2 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Uptown wrote:So, are we excusing Pop just because he's a hall of fame coach? Why wasn't Duncan on the floor at the end? His absence led to the offensive rebound and 3....Why is Parker not on the floor for the last shot when he's made big time shots in this series?

who is excusing him? there was no guarantee duncan gets the rebound... he gets the benefit of the doubt because he is probably one of the greatest coaches of all time, or maybe we should just put you on the bench for game 7? I dunno?

AFTER 10YRS OF POSTING YOU STILL TALK FOOLISHNESS.

The guy could stand flat foot and get a rebound, Pop over analyzed and made a horrible coaching decision. Jeff Vandummy said if Leonard makes the 2nd free throw I would take Bosh out of the game, well Bosh got the big offensive rebound when Lebron was clanking long jumpshots.


What happened to the road court advantage? Did SAS not "bring it"?

LOL you beat me to it.. I am surprised this guy even crawled out of his hole to post anything....

I can't believe some of you, you have the audacity to question my end time home team folds under pressure when the visiting team brings it. Then you complain and say the refs caused the spurs to lose in the end. HA HA CLASSIC HATERISM.

You saw that the Heat came back and the Spurs re-coiled & put the pressure on them in the end but the refs bailed the heat out with non foul calls. Sometimes I wonder about you guys.

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6/19/2013  10:28 AM
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:The non-calls at the end are distracting from how well and even the whole series has been officiated. Actually, even in this game Miami was called for five more fouls and SAS had seven more free throw attempts. It's not like Miami was being passive - Lebron and Wade were definitely attacking the basket.
I think Nalod's right. The refs just didn't want to hand San Antonia a championship on a foul call. If you wanted to fix the game for Miami, this is NOT how you would do it. You wouldn't be balanced (or possibly slightly favor SAS) all game and then have two blatant bad calls favoring Miami at the end. You'd subtly favor Miami all game and not let it even come down to a final play.

you and nalod have a point, but as ironwill said in the following post, too much acting, not cosistent with the calls, just ugly.. the game looks like a 3 ring circus with guys falling all over the place, especially lebron, wade and bosh.. just ugly... I know manu was fouled and I would have loved to have seen that called simply because it wasn't the challenge of a shot or dunk, but ray allen was beat and he reached knowing the refs would not blow the whistle and he just hacked him.. I hate that..

good game, until the end, it just got wild and out of control it seemed.....


People just don't realize how hard the NBA is to ref, and part of that is due to bad PR by the league. Give some serious thought to all the info. in this thread, including the articles linked in it.
http://apbr.org/metrics/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8249
It might change how you feel when you watch games in the future.

oh I understand I officiated some HS and church league games.. It was hard with these kids becoming better athletes, quicker, faster... It is not easy at all, you have to make a call in a split second and stand by it... I had a game end up in a brawl with parents and players, a church league.. it was ugly, the police came and arrested a lot of parents.. It is not easy.. but these guys get tons of training, they have more guys on the floor... we know mistakes happen, but the lack of consistency bothers me and it all started when stern and his unspoken word policy of letting star players get the benefit of the doubt.. Stop trying to influence games, stop trying to manufacture stars, let the game take care of itself.

If you get 5% of the calls wrong and there are a thousand calls and non-calls a game, it's impossible to look "consistent."
You're asking for something a human can't do.

I guess so, and if that is the case then where do yo go from here bonn? the game wasn't always this way..

I think it always was - people just didn't have internet forums to reinforce their complaining. I do remember frequent complaining about the refs and the whole league being against the Knicks in the '90s, though.
Where do you go from here? That's up to you. I try to look at the box score stats and consider how the two teams are playing to decide whether the refs are being fair. It looks fine in this series.
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6/19/2013  10:29 AM
Vmart wrote:This shyt is set up. ABC AND NBA WANT SEVEN. Rating and earning NBA no different than WWF. Everyone is in on it including the players and coaches. I have no problem with the Heat comeback but the swallowed whistles is something that I can't stand the ref have way to much control over the game and can and do decide the outcomes. Green got fouled Ginobili got fouled.

With that said if there is one player to blame for SA loss it's hands down Ginobili. Pop pulling Duncan out of game that was the icing on the cake for me now the coach wants to take his best defender out of the game ridiculous. I'm watching the game waiting for Miami to play desperate and waiting for the refs to swallow their whistle sure enough it all happened.

Vmart some of these posters are in denial, this thing has been rigged for sometime. Why do you think MJ said the games it's 90% mental. Trying to cope when the entire world is watching and the games are fixed at key points in the big games.

Bonn talks about if they were going to fix the games they would have done it this way. LOL

That's exactly the way they wouldn't do it , it would be TOO obvious.

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6/19/2013  10:37 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/19/2013  10:38 AM
playa2 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
playa2 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Uptown wrote:So, are we excusing Pop just because he's a hall of fame coach? Why wasn't Duncan on the floor at the end? His absence led to the offensive rebound and 3....Why is Parker not on the floor for the last shot when he's made big time shots in this series?

who is excusing him? there was no guarantee duncan gets the rebound... he gets the benefit of the doubt because he is probably one of the greatest coaches of all time, or maybe we should just put you on the bench for game 7? I dunno?

AFTER 10YRS OF POSTING YOU STILL TALK FOOLISHNESS.

The guy could stand flat foot and get a rebound, Pop over analyzed and made a horrible coaching decision. Jeff Vandummy said if Leonard makes the 2nd free throw I would take Bosh out of the game, well Bosh got the big offensive rebound when Lebron was clanking long jumpshots.


What happened to the road court advantage? Did SAS not "bring it"?

LOL you beat me to it.. I am surprised this guy even crawled out of his hole to post anything....

I can't believe some of you, you have the audacity to question my end time home team folds under pressure when the visiting team brings it. Then you complain and say the refs caused the spurs to lose in the end. HA HA CLASSIC HATERISM.

You saw that the Heat came back and the Spurs re-coiled & put the pressure on them in the end but the refs bailed the heat out with non foul calls. Sometimes I wonder about you guys.

You wanna address anything *I* actually said instead of using the generic "you" to avoid my comments?
I'm surprised you didn't "LOL" in this post. Usually you are very giggly.
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6/19/2013  10:42 AM

Studying under Dick Bavetta for 13 years was like pursuing a graduate degree in advanced game manipulation. He knew how to marshal the tempo and tone of a game better than any referee in the league, by far. He also knew how to take subtle — and not so subtle — cues from the NBA front office and extend a playoff series or, worse yet, change the complexion of that series.

Danny told me that Jordan himself said that everyone in the league knew that Bavetta cheated in games and that the players and coaches just hoped he would be cheating for them on game night. Did Bavetta have a hidden agenda? Or was he the ultimate company man, making sure the NBA and its fans got a competitive game most times he was on
the court?

We played this little game during the regular season and summer league. After a game, all three REFS would gather around the VCR and watch a replay of the game. Early in the contest, the announcers would say, "Holy cow! They're really letting them play tonight!" If they only knew...

Relationships between NBA players and referees were generally all over the board — love, hate, and everything in-between. Some players, even very good ones, were targeted by referees and the league because they were too talented for their own good.

http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts-from-the-book-the-nba-doesnt-want-you-to-read

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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