If there is a scenario where the knicks can trade for Simmons while keeping Randle, RJ, Mitch and Walker, could adding Simmons push the needle for the knicks. Somehow there is a theory if you surround Simmons with 3 other shooters that line up might work. How will a line up of Mitch, Randle, RJ, Simmons and Kemba stack agains the top 3 teams in the east?

Maybe a package of Evan, Noel, Obi, knox, IQ and 2-3 1st round picks for Simmons and Maxey?

Philc1 wrote:

Jimbo5 wrote:Ben Simmons just doubled down on his request to be traded, he told the 76er he wont report to training camp if not traded. Simmons' trade value could be at an all time low. If the knicks want in on Simmons there is no way the salaries can match until the newly signed players are tradable essentially taking the knicks out of any offseason trade involving Simmons.

If there is a scenario where the knicks can trade for Simmons while keeping Randle, RJ, Mitch and Walker, could adding Simmons push the needle for the knicks. Somehow there is a theory if you surround Simmons with 3 other shooters that line up might work. How will a line up of Mitch, Randle, RJ, Simmons and Kemba stack agains the top 3 teams in the east?

Maybe a package of Evan, Noel, Obi, knox, IQ and 2-3 1st round picks for Simmons and Maxey?

I actually think we could get Simmons for a package involving IQ, Obi, Mitch plus picks plus a contract to make sure salaries match the problem is I’m sure the 76ers are hesitant to trade him inside of the conference especially to a team that is geographically in the neighboring market

I want no part of Simmons. If he can't handle his coach calling him out after the miserable play off series he had, how will he handle the pressure of playing in NYC, with the media and the pressures that bring, as well as playing for a coach like Thibs who is just as old school and winning as Rivers?

Not to mention his contract, and the fact he can't shoot! If he had responded well to Rivers critique, he would have spent the summer working on his shooting. I recall reading he did not make himself available to the Sixers staff to check in or work with them on an off season program.

Philc1 wrote:

Jimbo5 wrote:Ben Simmons just doubled down on his request to be traded, he told the 76er he wont report to training camp if not traded. Simmons' trade value could be at an all time low. If the knicks want in on Simmons there is no way the salaries can match until the newly signed players are tradable essentially taking the knicks out of any offseason trade involving Simmons.

If there is a scenario where the knicks can trade for Simmons while keeping Randle, RJ, Mitch and Walker, could adding Simmons push the needle for the knicks. Somehow there is a theory if you surround Simmons with 3 other shooters that line up might work. How will a line up of Mitch, Randle, RJ, Simmons and Kemba stack agains the top 3 teams in the east?

Maybe a package of Evan, Noel, Obi, knox, IQ and 2-3 1st round picks for Simmons and Maxey?

I actually think we could get Simmons for a package involving IQ, Obi, Mitch plus picks plus a contract to make sure salaries match the problem is I’m sure the 76ers are hesitant to trade him inside of the conference especially to a team that is geographically in the neighboring market

76ers would laugh at your offer

While also giving up their main ball handler who is a fantastic defender and all star to replace him with....?

Why does IQ, Obi, Mitch plus picks make sense for Philly?

martin wrote:76ers have Embiid at C and Harris who plays PF (and sometimes can play SF) and they are going to trade for.... a C and a PF to play backup minutes?

While also giving up their main ball handler who is a fantastic defender and all star to replace him with....?

Why does IQ, Obi, Mitch plus picks make sense for Philly?

Morey needs a dude like McCollum to at least bring in a starter of substance. As bad as Simmons is, he is as mentioned allstar who played big role in top record in east.

Teams with Depth like ATL can make a deal but not return an allstar caliber player.
Maybe Its time for Rivers to step down as coach if it offers a path for reconciliation. Not for blame assignment, but for to good of the team. Simmons sitting won’t help. Most trades won’t give them a win now player. Simmons next to McCollum in POrtland if they move Lillard could be a nice move. Thing is, Portland I think is rolling with Dame going forward.

Nalod wrote:

martin wrote:76ers have Embiid at C and Harris who plays PF (and sometimes can play SF) and they are going to trade for.... a C and a PF to play backup minutes?

While also giving up their main ball handler who is a fantastic defender and all star to replace him with....?

Why does IQ, Obi, Mitch plus picks make sense for Philly?

Morey needs a dude like McCollum to at least bring in a starter of substance. As bad as Simmons is, he is as mentioned allstar who played big role in top record in east.

Teams with Depth like ATL can make a deal but not return an allstar caliber player.
Maybe Its time for Rivers to step down as coach if it offers a path for reconciliation. Not for blame assignment, but for to good of the team. Simmons sitting won’t help. Most trades won’t give them a win now player. Simmons next to McCollum in POrtland if they move Lillard could be a nice move. Thing is, Portland I think is rolling with Dame going forward.

Rivers thinks that maybe Morey should step down if he can't figure out a trade.

martin wrote:

shinmen wrote:

martin wrote:76ers have Embiid at C and Harris who plays PF (and sometimes can play SF) and they are going to trade for.... a C and a PF to play backup minutes?

While also giving up their main ball handler who is a fantastic defender and all star to replace him with....?

Why does IQ, Obi, Mitch plus picks make sense for Philly?

I didn't say the sixers were in a good place. They have a disgruntled all star who is at his lowest value trade wise. The best deal for the sixers would be Simmons for MC collum and stuff. Other than that, the market is not hot on Simmons so Robinson to backup embid who is due for a few games off, a good 3pts shooter in IQ and if they believe in obi, more depth and picks.
This is not a great deal for them but I doubt they get a much better offer.
Nonetheless, I really wish the Knicks don't make this offer.

LOL pretty much all the other viable offers would be better.

franco12 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Jimbo5 wrote:Ben Simmons just doubled down on his request to be traded, he told the 76er he wont report to training camp if not traded. Simmons' trade value could be at an all time low. If the knicks want in on Simmons there is no way the salaries can match until the newly signed players are tradable essentially taking the knicks out of any offseason trade involving Simmons.

If there is a scenario where the knicks can trade for Simmons while keeping Randle, RJ, Mitch and Walker, could adding Simmons push the needle for the knicks. Somehow there is a theory if you surround Simmons with 3 other shooters that line up might work. How will a line up of Mitch, Randle, RJ, Simmons and Kemba stack agains the top 3 teams in the east?

Maybe a package of Evan, Noel, Obi, knox, IQ and 2-3 1st round picks for Simmons and Maxey?

I actually think we could get Simmons for a package involving IQ, Obi, Mitch plus picks plus a contract to make sure salaries match the problem is I’m sure the 76ers are hesitant to trade him inside of the conference especially to a team that is geographically in the neighboring market

I want no part of Simmons. If he can't handle his coach calling him out after the miserable play off series he had, how will he handle the pressure of playing in NYC, with the media and the pressures that bring, as well as playing for a coach like Thibs who is just as old school and winning as Rivers?

Not to mention his contract, and the fact he can't shoot! If he had responded well to Rivers critique, he would have spent the summer working on his shooting. I recall reading he did not make himself available to the Sixers staff to check in or work with them on an off season program.

Agreed. Simmons wouldn’t work out here.

shinmen wrote:

martin wrote:

shinmen wrote:

martin wrote:76ers have Embiid at C and Harris who plays PF (and sometimes can play SF) and they are going to trade for.... a C and a PF to play backup minutes?

While also giving up their main ball handler who is a fantastic defender and all star to replace him with....?

Why does IQ, Obi, Mitch plus picks make sense for Philly?

I didn't say the sixers were in a good place. They have a disgruntled all star who is at his lowest value trade wise. The best deal for the sixers would be Simmons for MC collum and stuff. Other than that, the market is not hot on Simmons so Robinson to backup embid who is due for a few games off, a good 3pts shooter in IQ and if they believe in obi, more depth and picks.
This is not a great deal for them but I doubt they get a much better offer.
Nonetheless, I really wish the Knicks don't make this offer.

LOL pretty much all the other viable offers would be better.

What offers? They were discussing a trade with the kings but they would not include fox or haliburton so basically hield and Bagley etc.

We all understand that trade negotiations don't occur through the media, right? You think Sac will show their cards and just say out loud that they would include Haliburton in a trade or that any other team wouldn't step forward with a Ben Simmons offer?