mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:is this the same harden who is have a great great great post season while (lets use the melo excuse) he has to do it all alone?

I thought that when you don't have the support cast you jack em up at 30% ... like uh melo?

Come on...Looks better when u take it like a man..

take what? How silly your chest bump is coming across? How good old school adridge is?

How Harden is having a more efficient off season that most superstars can dream of?

You seem like a guy who can make excuses for each epic fail for melo yet they look quite silly when you start digging and good players without you quirky malformed logic.

Harden is super super star that may lose. Then you can say "ha! I knew it. He is no good. Seeeee?"

really dude?

The game has changed completely. If you would like to still find anomalies that make you feel like they shouldn't have, then make your points and we can argue them.

Are you saying that Harden is having a bad playoffs? I am sure that you are not, so what are you saying? That they are honing him on him?

mreinman wrote:not sensitive (and not that young) just more open minded and I am not ready to pull my pants up to my neck and sit back and complain about how they don't make em like they use to.

The game has changed completely. If you would like to still find anomalies that make you feel like they shouldn't have, then make your points and we can argue them.

Are you saying that Harden is having a bad playoffs? I am sure that you are not, so what are you saying? That they are honing him on him?

So it is your belief that ATL, GS, and Houston losing their series is an anomaly..Do you have any evidence of these type of teams winning any Championships..I will counter by saying that what's happening now is very normal and its how it's been happening for a very long time..

Harden is having a bad series..I'm looking at how he looks within the team construct..They can't win with him dominating the ball..So McHale tried to change it up and it didn't work..They have some things to consider in the offseason because this series is over..

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:not sensitive (and not that young) just more open minded and I am not ready to pull my pants up to my neck and sit back and complain about how they don't make em like they use to.

The game has changed completely. If you would like to still find anomalies that make you feel like they shouldn't have, then make your points and we can argue them.

Are you saying that Harden is having a bad playoffs? I am sure that you are not, so what are you saying? That they are honing him on him?

So it is your belief that ATL, GS, and Houston losing their series is an anomaly..Do you have any evidence of these type of teams winning any Championships..I will counter by saying that what's happening now is very normal and its how it's been happening for a very long time..

Harden is having a bad series..I'm looking at how he looks within the team construct..They can't win with him dominating the ball..So McHale tried to change it up and it didn't work..They have some things to consider in the offseason because this series is over..

Houston has a sh1tty team and yes, dhow is way overrated. Maybe josh smith can save them?

Atlanta is good but nobody great. They would have to be another detroit (a team that won without a star)

GS is young and will improve. When did jordan win again?

These teams are all playing good or better teams.

The clippers are better than Houston and its not close. Houston has one big advantage that keeps them alive, james harden. The clippers beat the SA superpower!

You make analytics argument in a hoover vacuum cleaner.

Using metrics gives you an advantage, not the win. And that is why all teams pretty much use them right now.

Who are the players that are considered stats guys that are failing? And eveybody fails lots of the time.

I have heard all the excuses for players who fail ALL the time.

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:not sensitive (and not that young) just more open minded and I am not ready to pull my pants up to my neck and sit back and complain about how they don't make em like they use to.

The game has changed completely. If you would like to still find anomalies that make you feel like they shouldn't have, then make your points and we can argue them.

Are you saying that Harden is having a bad playoffs? I am sure that you are not, so what are you saying? That they are honing him on him?

So it is your belief that ATL, GS, and Houston losing their series is an anomaly..Do you have any evidence of these type of teams winning any Championships..I will counter by saying that what's happening now is very normal and its how it's been happening for a very long time..

Harden is having a bad series..I'm looking at how he looks within the team construct..They can't win with him dominating the ball..So McHale tried to change it up and it didn't work..They have some things to consider in the offseason because this series is over..

Houston has a sh1tty team and yes, dhow is way overrated. Maybe josh smith can save them?

Atlanta is good but nobody great. They would have to be another detroit (a team that won without a star)

GS is young and will improve. When did jordan win again?

These teams are all playing good or better teams.

The clippers are better than Houston and its not close. Houston has one big advantage that keeps them alive, james harden. The clippers beat the SA superpower!

You make analytics argument in a hoover vacuum cleaner.

Using metrics gives you an advantage, not the win. And that is why all teams pretty much use them right now.

Who are the players that are considered stats guys that are failing? And eveybody fails lots of the time.

I have heard all the excuses for players who fail ALL the time.

DHow has been to the Finals already, so you can't write him off..These teams need to improve their defenses..The all need an interior game..You can't count in the threes in the playoff because everyone is playing d out there..Those shots are now more difficult..That won't change, guys always play harder in the playoffs..

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:not sensitive (and not that young) just more open minded and I am not ready to pull my pants up to my neck and sit back and complain about how they don't make em like they use to.

The game has changed completely. If you would like to still find anomalies that make you feel like they shouldn't have, then make your points and we can argue them.

Are you saying that Harden is having a bad playoffs? I am sure that you are not, so what are you saying? That they are honing him on him?

So it is your belief that ATL, GS, and Houston losing their series is an anomaly..Do you have any evidence of these type of teams winning any Championships..I will counter by saying that what's happening now is very normal and its how it's been happening for a very long time..

Harden is having a bad series..I'm looking at how he looks within the team construct..They can't win with him dominating the ball..So McHale tried to change it up and it didn't work..They have some things to consider in the offseason because this series is over..

Houston has a sh1tty team and yes, dhow is way overrated. Maybe josh smith can save them?

Atlanta is good but nobody great. They would have to be another detroit (a team that won without a star)

GS is young and will improve. When did jordan win again?

These teams are all playing good or better teams.

The clippers are better than Houston and its not close. Houston has one big advantage that keeps them alive, james harden. The clippers beat the SA superpower!

You make analytics argument in a hoover vacuum cleaner.

Using metrics gives you an advantage, not the win. And that is why all teams pretty much use them right now.

Who are the players that are considered stats guys that are failing? And eveybody fails lots of the time.

I have heard all the excuses for players who fail ALL the time.

DHow has been to the Finals already, so you can't write him off..These teams need to improve their defenses..The all need an interior game..You can't count in the threes in the playoff because everyone is playing d out there..Those shots are now more difficult..That won't change, guys always play harder in the playoffs..

yeah thats where it would help if howard was not such a dud. A dud that once was less of a DUD.

do you even know half the players on this team?

prigs is running the show part of the time ... how nice.

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:interesting advanced stat of the night, and highly ironic:

deandre jordan 6-7 fg, 14-34 ft, for a 59.2TS%

the hack a jordan doesn't stop him from being efficient.

And that's your deduction???..Not maybe these numbers are meaningless??Not completely asinine??

yeah ... proves that its assinine.

Well going at 14-34 is anything but efficient, maybe u can enlighten me..

do/read the math.

and make sure that you are valuing the shots and points correctly.

Yeah I do math..that's 41% shooting..pretty shiety no matter what rose colored glasses you are wearing...But dk7 will say, a win is a win..

true shooting ?

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:interesting advanced stat of the night, and highly ironic:

deandre jordan 6-7 fg, 14-34 ft, for a 59.2TS%

the hack a jordan doesn't stop him from being efficient.

And that's your deduction???..Not maybe these numbers are meaningless??Not completely asinine??

as i said it's "interesting." that means i am not sure what to make of it. it certainly had something to do with a blowout, no?

what do you make of it?

It means some stats on their own are worthless

mreinman wrote:not sensitive (and not that young) just more open minded and I am not ready to pull my pants up to my neck and sit back and complain about how they don't make em like they use to.

The game has changed completely. If you would like to still find anomalies that make you feel like they shouldn't have, then make your points and we can argue them.

Are you saying that Harden is having a bad playoffs? I am sure that you are not, so what are you saying? That they are honing him on him?

This line, which many have been spouting all season, has been exposed as complete BS. This 'new ball' of which you speak is essentially just D'Antoni basketball.