nixluva wrote:Lin had a bad game and overall the team seemed a bit off. Not much but just enough to mess up what should've been a win. I'm not really that worried tho, cuz I know this team can play better. This is only one game. The Knicks still have a ton of work to do and it's games like this that make it clear. We still aren't "smooth" on offense and we have defensive lapses.

Lin still has trouble against good defensive teams that take away the PnR and penetration. The C's play a sort of zone where they clog the paint area but can still close out on shooters. They basically play half way between the 3pt line and the paint.

Only one game? Please, we've played this script to death against the Celtics. We play loose and build a lead in the first half, but make enough mistakes to keep them in the game. Quickly lose control of the game in the third, enough to be blown out and then we make a last run that makes the score respectable but those who follow the team know better. We again proved how undisciplined we are against contending teams.

You know what's scary? We play Dallas and San Antonio next. For all the great story about this team in the last month, we could be many games under .500 soon.

nixluva wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

nixluva wrote:Lin had a bad game and overall the team seemed a bit off. Not much but just enough to mess up what should've been a win. I'm not really that worried tho, cuz I know this team can play better. This is only one game. The Knicks still have a ton of work to do and it's games like this that make it clear. We still aren't "smooth" on offense and we have defensive lapses.

Lin still has trouble against good defensive teams that take away the PnR and penetration. The C's play a sort of zone where they clog the paint area but can still close out on shooters. They basically play half way between the 3pt line and the paint.

when we were running the ball we were killing them then we went back to isos and thats exactly what boston wnats and we paid once again

I agree!!! This team needs to play fast! They have this tendency to slow down against teams and let teams dictate the game. The C's are old an slow, but they're smart. You have to use that depth and youth we have to push the pace. I think they spend too much time trying to work in STAT and Melo when there are times they could push the ball and get some easy early offense.

This is a process tho and I think some fans are making to much of one loss. It was a big game but still one game and we have 29 more to try and get this right. Today wasn't it. Mike seemed a bit off today too in his rotations and I thought they should've fouled rather than let Pierce get off his shot.

JCrusher wrote:

nixluva wrote:Lin had a bad game and overall the team seemed a bit off. Not much but just enough to mess up what should've been a win. I'm not really that worried tho, cuz I know this team can play better. This is only one game. The Knicks still have a ton of work to do and it's games like this that make it clear. We still aren't "smooth" on offense and we have defensive lapses.

Lin still has trouble against good defensive teams that take away the PnR and penetration. The C's play a sort of zone where they clog the paint area but can still close out on shooters. They basically play half way between the 3pt line and the paint.

when we were running the ball we were killing them then we went back to isos and thats exactly what boston wnats and we paid once again

That hurt but good offense is not driving with your eyes down and throwing prayers up. You bring up how they did not move around like they did in past games. Which is interesting because the second unit were the ones who played iso Bball(top of the key) in the third and early fourth when Melo and Lin where out. My question to you is why not bring up movement with the ISO plays in the post?

Bonn1997 wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

colombian0725 wrote:I have no idea what's wrong with this team? Why can't we beat the old ass celtics ? they are not a good team! Amare is useless. 100 million for what? He can't hit a open shot and can't rebound or defend. We need to get Chandler someone to help him defend the paint. PF is our biggest weakness. Sick of this switching !!!! wtf? our switching is killing us.

So this was Amare's Fault?? 16 pts...13 rebounds. You don't think it had anything to do with a subpar game from Lin and some questionable coaching decisions?

I think they definitely should have fouled especially cause Celtics had no timeouts..as soon as Garnett caught that pass there should have been a foul.

Amare played ok but he kills the offense. Defense???? He should stay down on the offensive side always.

Lin would look much better with JJ.

I agree. Shoulda fouled but MDA is way too stubborn for that.

You trust JJ on offense more than Amare when Celtics turned their defense up??

I think you'd have to trust Charles Smith if he were to come out of retirement more than Amare.

Just a plain ridiculous comment. Amare went 7 for 16 and hit some big shots this game. Garnett went 8 for 22. We did not lose this game because of Amare. He played a good game. He contested shots all game. No his defense wasn't perfect but everyone had their lapses.

mrKnickShot wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

colombian0725 wrote:I have no idea what's wrong with this team? Why can't we beat the old ass celtics ? they are not a good team! Amare is useless. 100 million for what? He can't hit a open shot and can't rebound or defend. We need to get Chandler someone to help him defend the paint. PF is our biggest weakness. Sick of this switching !!!! wtf? our switching is killing us.

So this was Amare's Fault?? 16 pts...13 rebounds. You don't think it had anything to do with a subpar game from Lin and some questionable coaching decisions?

I think they definitely should have fouled especially cause Celtics had no timeouts..as soon as Garnett caught that pass there should have been a foul.

Amare played ok but he kills the offense. Defense???? He should stay down on the offensive side always.

Lin would look much better with JJ.

I agree. Shoulda fouled but MDA is way too stubborn for that.

He kills the offense with his inconsistent jump shot that he continues to take. He is no longer going strong to the basket. His piss poor defense that looks worst than last season.

matt wrote:Melo and Lin work fine.. I figured that kind of nonsense would die down by now

How can you say that in the lighting of the evidence I just presented in THIS VERY THREAD??

Ball don't lie, my friend.

FoeDiddy wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Gymkata wrote:Worse, you can trace this loss to stupid little things: Shump's (bogus) tech and the free throws at the end of the half.

Always the heartbreaker against this damn team.

I actually find the taunting after awesome dunks to be childish. Did you see Josh Smith's yesterday? The refs are inconsistent in calling taunting Ts. I'll give you that. But the taunting is childish.

All he did was look at him. Please..that was a awful technical. Was not childish at all.

Agree TOTALLY!!! That was one of the mildest dunk celebrations and really he was there after the dunk to play D, so what was he supposed to do really? They want him to run away when they still have to play the in bounds play? Now you can't even look at someone!!!

mrKnickShot wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:

colombian0725 wrote:I have no idea what's wrong with this team? Why can't we beat the old ass celtics ? they are not a good team! Amare is useless. 100 million for what? He can't hit a open shot and can't rebound or defend. We need to get Chandler someone to help him defend the paint. PF is our biggest weakness. Sick of this switching !!!! wtf? our switching is killing us.

So this was Amare's Fault?? 16 pts...13 rebounds. You don't think it had anything to do with a subpar game from Lin and some questionable coaching decisions?

I think they definitely should have fouled especially cause Celtics had no timeouts..as soon as Garnett caught that pass there should have been a foul.

Amare played ok but he kills the offense. Defense???? He should stay down on the offensive side always.

Lin would look much better with JJ.

I agree. Shoulda fouled but MDA is way too stubborn for that.

You trust JJ on offense more than Amare when Celtics turned their defense up??

First, its not just offense. its defense. No comparison.

And surprisingly, JJ fits much better at this point than Amare. He crashed the Offensive boards much better and looks much better in the PnR.

Sad - but true.

Do you ever think it's because Amare gets more attention. Of course Celtics will not pay attention to JJ on offense but 4th quarter comes around and the Celtics squeeze on defense you need a more gifted offensive player.

yellowboy90 wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

nixluva wrote:Lin had a bad game and overall the team seemed a bit off. Not much but just enough to mess up what should've been a win. I'm not really that worried tho, cuz I know this team can play better. This is only one game. The Knicks still have a ton of work to do and it's games like this that make it clear. We still aren't "smooth" on offense and we have defensive lapses.

Lin still has trouble against good defensive teams that take away the PnR and penetration. The C's play a sort of zone where they clog the paint area but can still close out on shooters. They basically play half way between the 3pt line and the paint.

when we were running the ball we were killing them then we went back to isos and thats exactly what boston wnats and we paid once again

That hurt but good offense is not driving with your eyes down and throwing prayers up. You bring up how they did not move around like they did in past games. Which is interesting because the second unit were the ones who played iso Bball(top of the key) in the third and early fourth when Melo and Lin where out. My question to you is why not bring up movement with the ISO plays in the post?