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6/13/2010  11:12 PM
Ron Ron must have a celtics jersey on, underneath his laker one. He's been a celtic MVP all series. Kupcheck fukked up with that move it looks like. He went for the bigger name and wrecked the lakers synergy and chemistry. Ron is just too imbalanced and he's been playing like a fool out there
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6/13/2010  11:18 PM
i get so much enjoyment watching kobe hit crazy shot after shot yet the opponents lead kept building...and then watching him scream at the refs the rest of the way.
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6/13/2010  11:19 PM
Pharzeone wrote:Pau Gasol showing the world just how overrated he is by everyone. Made a note to call out KG early in the series and since then has been KG's you know what. Everybody is blocking his shot and pushing him around. The only thing missing is Nate to come up a block him straight up. Best big man in the game my ascot.

funny. i sent out a mass text to Laker fans saying the same thing. He was a dummy for that. I dont know what he was thinking. Say what you want about KG, but that is a proud and talented cat, and Gasoft called him out in the worst way. Pau sure as hell aint built to bark like that. Ever since KG has been on a mission. This is his last stand.

Pau been getting bullied ever since. Not as easy as when he was playing against 6'7 power forwards.

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6/13/2010  11:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/13/2010  11:21 PM
Kobe was good tonight so its not the night to knock him. But he's shooting just 28% in this series in the 4th quarter. (9 for 32). Time for the famed closer to start closing. He had an OK 4th, was 2 for 6 and got to the foul line, and a couple of those misses were just late prayers off balance. but i really thought after that string in the 3rd he would be able to carry them to the finish line. Hes not been good in this series at the end of games and all these games have been close. They won game 3 despite him shooting 1 for 6 in the 4th because Fisher went off
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6/13/2010  11:22 PM

Brother!
Celts up 3-2 win 1 of 2 games left in LA to wrap up NBA title again

We got to see its classless fans throw stuff onto floor late in a competitive game
and celtics was up winning? go explain that

Furthermore in the post game Celts interview we hear the arrogance of sportwriters talk
already how enjoyable it is and would be to deny LA a nba title by the questions to Coach
Doc Rivers whom avoided answering that since he knows series isn't over yet.

Yep Boston Celtics
fans and team whom plays hard but is Arrogant as ever as if they suppose to be the NBA
and deserve to win titles as much as classless fans desire.

Too bad some of other Lakers other than Kobe Bryant could not show up for Game #5.
We'll see what season Lakers have in Game #6 since it will be something else for Celtics to
celebrate on the Lakers home floor beating LA 2nd time in 3 yrs for NBA crown.

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6/13/2010  11:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/13/2010  11:34 PM
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Marv wrote:the rest of LA has been pretty sucky.

Never understood the hogwash people were trying to sell that Kobe was surrounded with superior talent. Gasol is a frontrunner and Artest's offense has been missing since his days in Indiana. Kobe will have to do it all if the Lakers have a shot. Fisher is Kobe's only real go to guy.

I disagree. the only spot where there is a talent liability is at the PG spot. Artest is playing like he's lost his damn mind. Bynum is hurt and they need to call an Amber alert out on Pau Gasol. Doesnt mean they arent more talented, they're just bytching up in the big spot.

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6/13/2010  11:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/13/2010  11:45 PM
Why is everyone here overrating Kobe's play in this series? Sure his supporting cast has had its down moments at times but the so called best closer in the world is shooting 28% from the floor in the 4th quarter of these games, all of which have been close and there for the taking late (except gm 1 which LA won fairly handily). The one game they did win in Boston Kobe deferred to Derek freaking Fisher who absolutely took over the game as Bryant hoisted brick after brick. He's shooting 42% and turning the ball over like crazy in the series. LeBron fared better against Boston and got killed for it, even with the brutal game 5 he had. If 'Bron had someone putting in work like Gasol has in this series (although he was poor tonight), 'Bron would have beaten the Celtics. Kobe has not been totally brutal but if you want to up that status to the next level legacy wise than you have to do better than this.

He's had a ho-hum series. And his shooting efforts in the finals in his career are always pretty poor, just 41% from the floor in his 7 appearances

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6/13/2010  11:49 PM
KnicksSince88 wrote:Why is everyone here overrating Kobe's play in this series? Sure his supporting cast has had its down moments at times but the so called best closer in the world is shooting 28% from the floor in the 4th quarter of these games, all of which have been close and there for the taking late (except gm 1 which LA won fairly handily). The one game they did win in Boston Kobe deferred to Derek freaking Fisher who absolutely took over the game as Bryant hoisted brick after brick. He's shooting 42% and turning the ball over like crazy in the series. LeBron fared better against Boston and got killed for it, even with the brutal game 5 he had. If 'Bron had someone putting in work like Gasol has in this series (although he was poor tonight), 'Bron would have beaten the Celtics. Kobe has not been totally brutal but if you want to up that status to the next level legacy wise than you have to do better than this.

He's had a ho-hum series. And his shooting efforts in the finals in his career are always pretty poor, just 41% from the floor in his 7 appearances

interesting point. im guessing some folks give him a pass cuz he has won before... cant really explain it.

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6/13/2010  11:56 PM
KnicksSince88 wrote:Kobe was good tonight so its not the night to knock him. But he's shooting just 28% in this series in the 4th quarter. (9 for 32). Time for the famed closer to start closing. He had an OK 4th, was 2 for 6 and got to the foul line, and a couple of those misses were just late prayers off balance. but i really thought after that string in the 3rd he would be able to carry them to the finish line. Hes not been good in this series at the end of games and all these games have been close. They won game 3 despite him shooting 1 for 6 in the 4th because Fisher went off

He took a couple crazy off balance threes late in the 4th because they were trying to play catch up.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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6/14/2010  12:00 AM
kam77 wrote:
KnicksSince88 wrote:Kobe was good tonight so its not the night to knock him. But he's shooting just 28% in this series in the 4th quarter. (9 for 32). Time for the famed closer to start closing. He had an OK 4th, was 2 for 6 and got to the foul line, and a couple of those misses were just late prayers off balance. but i really thought after that string in the 3rd he would be able to carry them to the finish line. Hes not been good in this series at the end of games and all these games have been close. They won game 3 despite him shooting 1 for 6 in the 4th because Fisher went off

He took a couple crazy off balance threes late in the 4th because they were trying to play catch up.

He took them shots he used to recently pass to open Laker
cause rest of his Laker sucka cast wasnt doing squat the whole game offensively
to put pressure on Celtics.

As a matter of fact rest of Lakers defensively wasnt good and I'd bet Kobe was
ticked he didnt have same force of his teammates to win game or try to.
Celtics had it easy and created their own breaks

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6/14/2010  12:02 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/14/2010  12:03 AM
kam77 wrote:
KnicksSince88 wrote:Kobe was good tonight so its not the night to knock him. But he's shooting just 28% in this series in the 4th quarter. (9 for 32). Time for the famed closer to start closing. He had an OK 4th, was 2 for 6 and got to the foul line, and a couple of those misses were just late prayers off balance. but i really thought after that string in the 3rd he would be able to carry them to the finish line. Hes not been good in this series at the end of games and all these games have been close. They won game 3 despite him shooting 1 for 6 in the 4th because Fisher went off

He took a couple crazy off balance threes late in the 4th because they were trying to play catch up.

Of course, and that was my point. Im basically saying the 2 for 6 4th is a little misleading tonight because of that, especially the last shot where he was just trying to draw a foul. But for the series, hes 28% in the 4th. You want to be called one of the best closers of all time? 42% for the series as a whole with high turnovers. This has not been a good series for the high standard we have to be holding a player of Kobe's stature to

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6/14/2010  12:15 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/14/2010  12:18 AM
His shooting efforts in the 4th in this series in 5 games

A pair of 1 for 6's

A pair of 2 for 6's

And a 3 for 8

And again. Outside of game 1 which LA won handily, all of these games have been right there for the taking late. Each and every one of them game 2 through 5. Kobe has not put his stamp on a 4th quarter in this series. The one close game they did win they lucked out that Fisher played out of his mind in the 4th. I don't want to go there because its not fair to Kobe, but since everyone wants to jock him with the MJ comparisons, Michael Jordan would have put his will on at least one of those close games and carried his team to the finish line

Kobe has always had shooting trouble in the finals though

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6/14/2010  12:55 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/14/2010  12:57 AM
DJMUSIC wrote:
kam77 wrote:
KnicksSince88 wrote:Kobe was good tonight so its not the night to knock him. But he's shooting just 28% in this series in the 4th quarter. (9 for 32). Time for the famed closer to start closing. He had an OK 4th, was 2 for 6 and got to the foul line, and a couple of those misses were just late prayers off balance. but i really thought after that string in the 3rd he would be able to carry them to the finish line. Hes not been good in this series at the end of games and all these games have been close. They won game 3 despite him shooting 1 for 6 in the 4th because Fisher went off

He took a couple crazy off balance threes late in the 4th because they were trying to play catch up.

He took them shots he used to recently pass to open Laker
cause rest of his Laker sucka cast wasnt doing squat the whole game offensively
to put pressure on Celtics.

As a matter of fact rest of Lakers defensively wasnt good and I'd bet Kobe was
ticked he didnt have same force of his teammates to win game or try to.

Celtics had it easy and created their own breaks

i agree with DJ... none of his teammates have stepped up to make big shots in the series & share the load late in games other than Derek Fisher... Artest took some ugly shots in crunchtime tonight & missed a couple of huge FT's that could have swung the game in the other direction... Gasol missed another huge FT & both he & Bynum were outrebounded & outhustled under the basket in the closing minutes... Odom was invisible in crunchtime... Kobe can't do it all by himself... someone else is gonna have to step up big in the next 2 games if the Lakers want a hope of taking this series.

Kobe's not MJ but IMO he's the closest thing you're ever going to see... even MJ had teammates step up & make big shots in crunchtime, he wasn't always the guy stabbing the other team in the heart with the dagger shot.

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6/14/2010  1:01 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/14/2010  1:03 AM
Gasol has had a very good series tonight aside. All this talk about Kobe's supporting cast. He'd still be getting knocked out in round 1 yearly without Pau.

How about a guy who some people have the nerve to compare to the greatest player of all time not shooting 42% and turning the ball all over the place. How about not having horrifying 4th quarters all series. How about rising above it once and willing your team home. I saw it from MJ countless times. I watched MJ win playoff series where Scottie completely disappeared. I watched him carry his team home vs Utah when Scottie could barely walk with a bad back. I watched him beat us when Scottie Pippen was going to bed at night looking for Xavier McDaniel in his closet. Get it done. No more talk about his supporting cast. He has a good enough cast. This has been a close series, if Kobe had been great this series, rather than merely "ho-hum", they could easily be going home up 3-2

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6/14/2010  1:03 AM
Jordan also found a way to elevate his teammates to step up. Like Kerr/Paxson/Wennington/Armstrong...he didn't alienate them like Kobe does. Kobe is a good chucker the best in the game but outside of taking and making shots for the most he doesn't do anything special.
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6/14/2010  1:04 AM
Odom is the guy that should be stepping up cuz he has the game to be Kobe's Pippen, but he just doesn't have the mentality! Odom is the one guy on the floor that if steps up can put the Lakers over the top. He has to show up in LA or they may lose one and the title goes to Boston.
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6/14/2010  1:08 AM
KnicksSince88 wrote:Gasol has had a very good series tonight aside. All this talk about Kobe's supporting cast. He'd still be getting knocked out in round 1 yearly without Pau.

How about a guy who some people have the nerve to compare to the greatest player of all time not shooting 42% and turning the ball all over the place. How about not having horrifying 4th quarters all series. How about rising above it once and willing your team home. I saw it from MJ countless times. I watched MJ win playoff series where Scottie completely disappeared. I watched him carry his team home vs Utah when Scottie could barely walk with a bad back. Get it done. No more talk about his supporting cast. He has a good enough cast. This has been a close series, if Kobe had been great this series, rather than merely "ho-hum", they could easily be going home up 3-2

i agree that Kobe's got a good enough supporting cast to win... however if that supporting cast is playing like crap & disappearing in crunchtime, even MJ wouldn't be able to win titles all by himself, as great as he was... there have been years where the Bulls won championships that perhaps don't even happen had certain role players not stepped up & made game changing plays for them... Kobe can't be judged fairly under the shadow of MJ anyway, who can? completely different era where defenses got away with a lot more contact & handchecking to guard MJ over his career... there will never be another Michael Jordan.

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6/14/2010  1:09 AM
Juice wrote:Jordan also found a way to elevate his teammates to step up. Like Kerr/Paxson/Wennington/Armstrong...he didn't alienate them like Kobe does. Kobe is a good chucker the best in the game but outside of taking and making shots for the most he doesn't do anything special.

Kobe's the best defensive G in the game IMO.

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6/14/2010  1:18 AM
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KnicksSince88 wrote:Gasol has had a very good series tonight aside. All this talk about Kobe's supporting cast. He'd still be getting knocked out in round 1 yearly without Pau.

How about a guy who some people have the nerve to compare to the greatest player of all time not shooting 42% and turning the ball all over the place. How about not having horrifying 4th quarters all series. How about rising above it once and willing your team home. I saw it from MJ countless times. I watched MJ win playoff series where Scottie completely disappeared. I watched him carry his team home vs Utah when Scottie could barely walk with a bad back. Get it done. No more talk about his supporting cast. He has a good enough cast. This has been a close series, if Kobe had been great this series, rather than merely "ho-hum", they could easily be going home up 3-2

i agree that Kobe's got a good enough supporting cast to win... however if that supporting cast is playing like crap & disappearing in crunchtime, even MJ wouldn't be able to win titles all by himself, as great as he was... there have been years where the Bulls won championships that perhaps don't even happen had certain role players not stepped up & made game changing plays for them... Kobe can't be judged fairly under the shadow of MJ anyway, who can? completely different era where defenses got away with a lot more contact & handchecking to guard MJ over his career... there will never be another Michael Jordan.

Why just knock the supporting cast for failing in crunch time? Like I said before, Kobe is shooting 28% in the 4th quarter of the games in this series. This is a guy who often gets called arguably the greatest closer ever. 9 for 32, just pathetic

At least you are on the same page with me regarding MJ and Kobe. It just pisses me off when people try to elevate Kobe to that level, and they are. You can just see people waiting to crown the guy if he can win another ring or two. I don't care if Kobe winds up with 7 or 8 rings. We've seen him at his best, and its not as good as Jordan

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6/14/2010  1:47 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Pierce was amazing tonight. I hope the Celts can get one in LA. P Jax is a bit of an @ss making those comments about the Celts mic'd up.

Not sure that ABC should have aired those comments. I bet they get some hell from the Lakers for doing it, and Rivers uses it for some added motivation.

I don't blame Jackson-I'm sure the coaches hate the fact that they are mic'd up and have to be asked idiotic questions during certain quarter breaks in the game. Jackson was just encouraging his guys, and pointing out that the Celtics had a bad year holding onto 4th quarter leads.

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