Not getting your ass shot by a cop, when a black person most likely would be,

Its getting more favorable mortgage rates vs black people with the same credit rating.

Its getting shown homes in neighborhoods that black folks wouldnt be shown.

Its having your physical pain being treated seriously by some doctors and black people sent home, because they're treated like drug addicts.

Its more favorable sentencing for drug crimes if you're white (see old Rockefeller drug laws)

Its not being treated automatically like a potential thief when shopping.

Its not having a cab you tried to hail drive right past you (if you're black) and pick up the white guy in the suit.

White privelege is everywhere. Take off the blinders.

JCrusher wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

TheGame wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

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Wonder if he had this same energy when Trump installed the Muslim travel ban?

The privilege of this guy. Blaming everyone else when he attacked a joint session of congress. These people really believe they could go to washigton try to overthrow the government and just go on with their lives like nothing happened. How fd in the head do you have to be to believe that.

You hit it on the head. These people think the entire country only belongs to them. The one good thing I can say about the Trump era is it really brought the problem of white privilege to the forefront in this country.

The term “white privilege” is extremely offensive. No matter what your political beliefs are that’s not a nice term to describe people Who simply don’t have your same beliefs

That's not what the term is meant to convey. It's meant to convey the reality that peaceful protesters can get gassed while domestic terrorist blocks away get treated with kids gloves and cry when they start getting hit with similar consequences. These are the same consequences that the CHAZ protesters faced. Why should these terrorists be treated different? Because of their perceived expectations of white privilege?

I disagree. The term is disgusting to me. I’m a white conservative BUT I’ve always treated EVERYONE well and with respect. Anyway it’s a disgusting term

The term is not to meant to be a reflection of our beliefs, but the differences in the consequences certain groups of people face when expressing those beliefs. I don't care what you're ideology is. I welcome your views, even if I disagree with them. But their is a double standard. Shannon Sharpe brought up the point that Tom Brady faced no backlash for his support of Trump, but could you imagine the backlash LeBron would face if he supported Louis Farrakhan?

I appreciate you being civil despite different beliefs. Sadly that’s not always the case. Let me tell you about a scary incident that took place last July My wife and I took a Ride to a nearby beach Where a bunch of BLM “ Peaceful protestors” happened to be. We minded our own business but I guess what caught their attention was that I was wearing a NYPD cap(my father is a retired NY cop). Anyway they gathered around us cursing and saying a lot of disgusting things like “Death to white boys” “F the police” and even told my wife they are going to “run a train on her”. Thankfully I grabbed her and ran while they threw things at us and even some spit on us. My wife was so shaken by the incident she didn’t leave the house at all for a couple weeks. So needless to say I do take offense when I hear terms like white privilege since I treat people right and still got nearly attacked with my wife for having different beliefs/skin color

That's terrible.

I would say that the NYPD hat triggered it more so than skin color. If you were white wearing a BLM hat or say a Knicks hat, then they probably would have left you alone. Replace yourself with a black family and that same group would have probably gotten verbally attacked with different words. Most likely Uncle Tom, sell out, house N*****, Coon. But you being white most likely did add an extra layer of aggression.

While they are wrong for their actions and words. The thoughts also should cross your mind, what has lead to this amount of resentment, pain and anger that is being unleashed?

I also would hope that this experience doesn't in turn push you to becoming extreme yourself. Hopefully you continue to treat everyone fairly.

newyorknewyork wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

TheGame wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/ExpertMilkshake/status/1348356778082373632

Wonder if he had this same energy when Trump installed the Muslim travel ban?

The privilege of this guy. Blaming everyone else when he attacked a joint session of congress. These people really believe they could go to washigton try to overthrow the government and just go on with their lives like nothing happened. How fd in the head do you have to be to believe that.

You hit it on the head. These people think the entire country only belongs to them. The one good thing I can say about the Trump era is it really brought the problem of white privilege to the forefront in this country.

The term “white privilege” is extremely offensive. No matter what your political beliefs are that’s not a nice term to describe people Who simply don’t have your same beliefs

That's not what the term is meant to convey. It's meant to convey the reality that peaceful protesters can get gassed while domestic terrorist blocks away get treated with kids gloves and cry when they start getting hit with similar consequences. These are the same consequences that the CHAZ protesters faced. Why should these terrorists be treated different? Because of their perceived expectations of white privilege?

I disagree. The term is disgusting to me. I’m a white conservative BUT I’ve always treated EVERYONE well and with respect. Anyway it’s a disgusting term

The term is not to meant to be a reflection of our beliefs, but the differences in the consequences certain groups of people face when expressing those beliefs. I don't care what you're ideology is. I welcome your views, even if I disagree with them. But their is a double standard. Shannon Sharpe brought up the point that Tom Brady faced no backlash for his support of Trump, but could you imagine the backlash LeBron would face if he supported Louis Farrakhan?

I appreciate you being civil despite different beliefs. Sadly that’s not always the case. Let me tell you about a scary incident that took place last July My wife and I took a Ride to a nearby beach Where a bunch of BLM “ Peaceful protestors” happened to be. We minded our own business but I guess what caught their attention was that I was wearing a NYPD cap(my father is a retired NY cop). Anyway they gathered around us cursing and saying a lot of disgusting things like “Death to white boys” “F the police” and even told my wife they are going to “run a train on her”. Thankfully I grabbed her and ran while they threw things at us and even some spit on us. My wife was so shaken by the incident she didn’t leave the house at all for a couple weeks. So needless to say I do take offense when I hear terms like white privilege since I treat people right and still got nearly attacked with my wife for having different beliefs/skin color

That's terrible.

I would say that the NYPD hat triggered it more so than skin color. If you were white wearing a BLM hat or say a Knicks hat, then they probably would have left you alone. Replace yourself with a black family and that same group would have probably gotten verbally attacked with different words. Most likely Uncle Tom, sell out, house N*****, Coon. But you being white most likely did add an extra layer of aggression.

While they are wrong for their actions and words. The thoughts also should cross your mind, what has lead to this amount of resentment, pain and anger that is being unleashed?

I also would hope that this experience doesn't in turn push you to becoming extreme yourself. Hopefully you continue to treat everyone fairly.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

TheGame wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/ExpertMilkshake/status/1348356778082373632

Wonder if he had this same energy when Trump installed the Muslim travel ban?

The privilege of this guy. Blaming everyone else when he attacked a joint session of congress. These people really believe they could go to washigton try to overthrow the government and just go on with their lives like nothing happened. How fd in the head do you have to be to believe that.

You hit it on the head. These people think the entire country only belongs to them. The one good thing I can say about the Trump era is it really brought the problem of white privilege to the forefront in this country.

The term “white privilege” is extremely offensive. No matter what your political beliefs are that’s not a nice term to describe people Who simply don’t have your same beliefs

That's not what the term is meant to convey. It's meant to convey the reality that peaceful protesters can get gassed while domestic terrorist blocks away get treated with kids gloves and cry when they start getting hit with similar consequences. These are the same consequences that the CHAZ protesters faced. Why should these terrorists be treated different? Because of their perceived expectations of white privilege?

I disagree. The term is disgusting to me. I’m a white conservative BUT I’ve always treated EVERYONE well and with respect. Anyway it’s a disgusting term

The term is not to meant to be a reflection of our beliefs, but the differences in the consequences certain groups of people face when expressing those beliefs. I don't care what you're ideology is. I welcome your views, even if I disagree with them. But their is a double standard. Shannon Sharpe brought up the point that Tom Brady faced no backlash for his support of Trump, but could you imagine the backlash LeBron would face if he supported Louis Farrakhan?

I appreciate you being civil despite different beliefs. Sadly that’s not always the case. Let me tell you about a scary incident that took place last July My wife and I took a Ride to a nearby beach Where a bunch of BLM “ Peaceful protestors” happened to be. We minded our own business but I guess what caught their attention was that I was wearing a NYPD cap(my father is a retired NY cop). Anyway they gathered around us cursing and saying a lot of disgusting things like “Death to white boys” “F the police” and even told my wife they are going to “run a train on her”. Thankfully I grabbed her and ran while they threw things at us and even some spit on us. My wife was so shaken by the incident she didn’t leave the house at all for a couple weeks. So needless to say I do take offense when I hear terms like white privilege since I treat people right and still got nearly attacked with my wife for having different beliefs/skin color

That's terrible.

I would say that the NYPD hat triggered it more so than skin color. If you were white wearing a BLM hat or say a Knicks hat, then they probably would have left you alone. Replace yourself with a black family and that same group would have probably gotten verbally attacked with different words. Most likely Uncle Tom, sell out, house N*****, Coon. But you being white most likely did add an extra layer of aggression.

While they are wrong for their actions and words. The thoughts also should cross your mind, what has lead to this amount of resentment, pain and anger that is being unleashed?

I also would hope that this experience doesn't in turn push you to becoming extreme yourself. Hopefully you continue to treat everyone fairly.

Well I disagree. I come from a proud family of cops. I stand completely behind them and they risk their lives to keep us all safe. As a kid I was always scared of losing my dad in the line of duty. Anyway like I said my experience Had nothing to do with my beliefs. Not saying all BLM people are scum bags but there are a lot of them who are burning down cities, looting, and killing people. That’s just a fact. There are others who are peaceful and I respect that. I’m fine with different opinions as long as it’s peaceful and respectful. So no it’s not the “NYPD’s fault” I was attacked. The blame squarely falls on those individuals. Period cut and dry

GreatPost brother!!! Like I mentioned in a previous post my old man also was a cop so I can definitely relate to what you were feeling as a kid. I also stand behind our proud men in blue. Again I’m so sorry what you and your wife had to go through. My sister in law also went through sort of a similar experience you two went through. Be safe!!!

JCrusher wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

TheGame wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/ExpertMilkshake/status/1348356778082373632

Wonder if he had this same energy when Trump installed the Muslim travel ban?

The privilege of this guy. Blaming everyone else when he attacked a joint session of congress. These people really believe they could go to washigton try to overthrow the government and just go on with their lives like nothing happened. How fd in the head do you have to be to believe that.

You hit it on the head. These people think the entire country only belongs to them. The one good thing I can say about the Trump era is it really brought the problem of white privilege to the forefront in this country.

The term “white privilege” is extremely offensive. No matter what your political beliefs are that’s not a nice term to describe people Who simply don’t have your same beliefs

That's not what the term is meant to convey. It's meant to convey the reality that peaceful protesters can get gassed while domestic terrorist blocks away get treated with kids gloves and cry when they start getting hit with similar consequences. These are the same consequences that the CHAZ protesters faced. Why should these terrorists be treated different? Because of their perceived expectations of white privilege?

I disagree. The term is disgusting to me. I’m a white conservative BUT I’ve always treated EVERYONE well and with respect. Anyway it’s a disgusting term

The term is not to meant to be a reflection of our beliefs, but the differences in the consequences certain groups of people face when expressing those beliefs. I don't care what you're ideology is. I welcome your views, even if I disagree with them. But their is a double standard. Shannon Sharpe brought up the point that Tom Brady faced no backlash for his support of Trump, but could you imagine the backlash LeBron would face if he supported Louis Farrakhan?

I appreciate you being civil despite different beliefs. Sadly that’s not always the case. Let me tell you about a scary incident that took place last July My wife and I took a Ride to a nearby beach Where a bunch of BLM “ Peaceful protestors” happened to be. We minded our own business but I guess what caught their attention was that I was wearing a NYPD cap(my father is a retired NY cop). Anyway they gathered around us cursing and saying a lot of disgusting things like “Death to white boys” “F the police” and even told my wife they are going to “run a train on her”. Thankfully I grabbed her and ran while they threw things at us and even some spit on us. My wife was so shaken by the incident she didn’t leave the house at all for a couple weeks. So needless to say I do take offense when I hear terms like white privilege since I treat people right and still got nearly attacked with my wife for having different beliefs/skin color

That's terrible.

I would say that the NYPD hat triggered it more so than skin color. If you were white wearing a BLM hat or say a Knicks hat, then they probably would have left you alone. Replace yourself with a black family and that same group would have probably gotten verbally attacked with different words. Most likely Uncle Tom, sell out, house N*****, Coon. But you being white most likely did add an extra layer of aggression.

While they are wrong for their actions and words. The thoughts also should cross your mind, what has lead to this amount of resentment, pain and anger that is being unleashed?

I also would hope that this experience doesn't in turn push you to becoming extreme yourself. Hopefully you continue to treat everyone fairly.

Well I disagree. I come from a proud family of cops. I stand completely behind them and they risk their lives to keep us all safe. As a kid I was always scared of losing my dad in the line of duty. Anyway like I said my experience Had nothing to do with my beliefs. Not saying all BLM people are scum bags but there are a lot of them who are burning down cities, looting, and killing people. That’s just a fact. There are others who are peaceful and I respect that. I’m fine with different opinions as long as it’s peaceful and respectful. So no it’s not the “NYPD’s fault” I was attacked. The blame squarely falls on those individuals. Period cut and dry

Didn't say your incident was the NYPD's fault. Said that the hat is probably what triggered them. People with anger inside are jumping into all movements from BLM, Antifa, Maga etc.. Just like people with anger inside or certain beliefs joining the police force. The main difference is that due to the job police are asked to do. They get more protection. For the good cops deservedly so. For the ****ty cops, that's where things get sticky.

JCrusher wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

TheGame wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/ExpertMilkshake/status/1348356778082373632

Wonder if he had this same energy when Trump installed the Muslim travel ban?

The privilege of this guy. Blaming everyone else when he attacked a joint session of congress. These people really believe they could go to washigton try to overthrow the government and just go on with their lives like nothing happened. How fd in the head do you have to be to believe that.

You hit it on the head. These people think the entire country only belongs to them. The one good thing I can say about the Trump era is it really brought the problem of white privilege to the forefront in this country.

The term “white privilege” is extremely offensive. No matter what your political beliefs are that’s not a nice term to describe people Who simply don’t have your same beliefs

That's not what the term is meant to convey. It's meant to convey the reality that peaceful protesters can get gassed while domestic terrorist blocks away get treated with kids gloves and cry when they start getting hit with similar consequences. These are the same consequences that the CHAZ protesters faced. Why should these terrorists be treated different? Because of their perceived expectations of white privilege?

I disagree. The term is disgusting to me. I’m a white conservative BUT I’ve always treated EVERYONE well and with respect. Anyway it’s a disgusting term

The term is not to meant to be a reflection of our beliefs, but the differences in the consequences certain groups of people face when expressing those beliefs. I don't care what you're ideology is. I welcome your views, even if I disagree with them. But their is a double standard. Shannon Sharpe brought up the point that Tom Brady faced no backlash for his support of Trump, but could you imagine the backlash LeBron would face if he supported Louis Farrakhan?

I appreciate you being civil despite different beliefs. Sadly that’s not always the case. Let me tell you about a scary incident that took place last July My wife and I took a Ride to a nearby beach Where a bunch of BLM “ Peaceful protestors” happened to be. We minded our own business but I guess what caught their attention was that I was wearing a NYPD cap(my father is a retired NY cop). Anyway they gathered around us cursing and saying a lot of disgusting things like “Death to white boys” “F the police” and even told my wife they are going to “run a train on her”. Thankfully I grabbed her and ran while they threw things at us and even some spit on us. My wife was so shaken by the incident she didn’t leave the house at all for a couple weeks. So needless to say I do take offense when I hear terms like white privilege since I treat people right and still got nearly attacked with my wife for having different beliefs/skin color

That's terrible.

I would say that the NYPD hat triggered it more so than skin color. If you were white wearing a BLM hat or say a Knicks hat, then they probably would have left you alone. Replace yourself with a black family and that same group would have probably gotten verbally attacked with different words. Most likely Uncle Tom, sell out, house N*****, Coon. But you being white most likely did add an extra layer of aggression.

While they are wrong for their actions and words. The thoughts also should cross your mind, what has lead to this amount of resentment, pain and anger that is being unleashed?

I also would hope that this experience doesn't in turn push you to becoming extreme yourself. Hopefully you continue to treat everyone fairly.

Well I disagree. I come from a proud family of cops. I stand completely behind them and they risk their lives to keep us all safe. As a kid I was always scared of losing my dad in the line of duty. Anyway like I said my experience Had nothing to do with my beliefs. Not saying all BLM people are scum bags but there are a lot of them who are burning down cities, looting, and killing people. That’s just a fact. There are others who are peaceful and I respect that. I’m fine with different opinions as long as it’s peaceful and respectful. So no it’s not the “NYPD’s fault” I was attacked. The blame squarely falls on those individuals. Period cut and dry

Didn't say your incident was the NYPD's fault. Said that the hat is probably what triggered them. People with anger inside are jumping into all movements from BLM, Antifa, Maga etc.. Just like people with anger inside or certain beliefs joining the police force. The main difference is that due to the job police are asked to do. They get more protection. For the good cops deservedly so. For the ****ty cops, that's where things get sticky.

. I appreciate your post and your civility. Like I said I admit there are some bad cops out there sadly. However the vast majority ate very good people who serve to protect us. Obviously I’ve known hundreds and their families. I feel they have been very mistreated and mischaracterized the past 7 months which pisses me off quite frankly. It certainly pisses off my father, uncle, and other family members who still are on the force

In comparison, how do you think people of color or minorities (and let's also throw in women for good measure) in this country have been treated for, say, the last couple hundred of years?

And let's stretch the thought process: We still don't know your understanding of what White Privilege means and what you think others in this thread thinks it means. There is a lack of definition and connection. Help us and start there.

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JCrusher wrote:Well I disagree. I come from a proud family of cops. I stand completely behind them and they risk their lives to keep us all safe. As a kid I was always scared of losing my dad in the line of duty. Anyway like I said my experience Had nothing to do with my beliefs. Not saying all BLM people are scum bags but there are a lot of them who are burning down cities, looting, and killing people. That’s just a fact. There are others who are peaceful and I respect that. I’m fine with different opinions as long as it’s peaceful and respectful. So no it’s not the “NYPD’s fault” I was attacked. The blame squarely falls on those individuals. Period cut and dry

I'm not sure a lot is the right way to put it. I'd say minority. And it's even hard to quantify since we've seen that some of these violent outburst were propagated by many of the domestic terrorist groups who organized the attack on Washington.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled

ACLED, a widely cited source for data on civilian casualties in Yemen, has been a non-partisan monitor of protests and violence in the Middle East, Asia, Europe and Latin America, and launched its US Crisis Monitor in July, citing concerns over hate crimes and rising political violence.

ACLED found that the overwhelming majority of the more than 9.000 Black Lives Matter demonstrations that took place across the US after the killing of George Floyd have been peaceful. News reports at the height of demonstrations over Floyd’s killing cited dozens of deaths in connection with protests, but many of those turned out to be examples of deadly crimes carried out in the vicinity of protests, rather than directly related to the demonstrations themselves, the researchers concluded. ACLED’s dataset only focuses on political violence.

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martin wrote:Racism exists. Those that don't experience racism are privileged enough to not have to go through that experience. Generally, that's white people. Most understand that as White Privilege.

Maybe you don't like the way it is phrased, don't know.

If you want to take offense to it, so be it, it's not your phrase. Pick one that suits you.

Completely disagree. I did take offense to the fact that you didn’t seem to care less about what happened to my wife and I but now That you know what my beliefs are I’m not surprised

You seem very stuck on that so let me firmly correct any misunderstanding. It's a tragedy that you, your wife would have to go through what you had to experience. Just terrible.

Now imagine if you experienced that just because of the color of your skin and experienced it on any given day for no reason and not because you showed up at the wrong time at the wrong place with a bunch of people who were acting like a mob instead of a protest. We both understand that your hat didn't help the situation and most definitely made it worse, right?

The internet and forums are a tough place to get exact sentiment across in words and phrases and you seem to be trying to hold me to account for not expressing them directly to you in a way that makes you feel good about it. I'll stop there.

I have no idea what you disagree with as you haven't really taken the time to explain yourself around the topic of white privilege. Maybe you can hold yourself to account and not keep on circling back to the experience you and your wife tragically went through.

Well I have explained myself. And no I’m not circling back to that just pointing it out. I know all I need to know at this point so don’t worry I dont need anything from you. Anyway let’s just agree to disagree and promise not to acknowledge each other ever again. Take Care

lol words wasted

Honestly Martin what is your problem? This is why I never talk politics because of negative comments like this. I guess In retrospect I should have left it alone but being raised by two great parents who taught me to respect others But also to stand up for your beliefs. My family in particular has gone through a lot of bullsh#t from BLM “Protestors”. Not just my experience but my brother in law and cousins who are NY cops as well and dealt with that. If you dont like my beliefs fine I could care less but at least be civil and respectful about it. Once Again BigDaddyG I want to thank you for being very gracious and civil despite different views. I totally respect you for that.

I just directly extended myself out to you and you took it as an ignore and went on to other posters and you expect what?

If you'd like to engage on White Privilege, I'm all for it but you haven't and that's definitely a problem in our greater parts. Calling it an offensive term is offensive in and of itself and clearly a lack of understanding on your part, I dare say it's up there with an All Live Matters take on BLM.

Disgusting Post. Anyway you win Martin I no longer want to be on this site

newyorknewyork wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

TheGame wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/ExpertMilkshake/status/1348356778082373632

Wonder if he had this same energy when Trump installed the Muslim travel ban?

The privilege of this guy. Blaming everyone else when he attacked a joint session of congress. These people really believe they could go to washigton try to overthrow the government and just go on with their lives like nothing happened. How fd in the head do you have to be to believe that.

You hit it on the head. These people think the entire country only belongs to them. The one good thing I can say about the Trump era is it really brought the problem of white privilege to the forefront in this country.

The term “white privilege” is extremely offensive. No matter what your political beliefs are that’s not a nice term to describe people Who simply don’t have your same beliefs

That's not what the term is meant to convey. It's meant to convey the reality that peaceful protesters can get gassed while domestic terrorist blocks away get treated with kids gloves and cry when they start getting hit with similar consequences. These are the same consequences that the CHAZ protesters faced. Why should these terrorists be treated different? Because of their perceived expectations of white privilege?

I disagree. The term is disgusting to me. I’m a white conservative BUT I’ve always treated EVERYONE well and with respect. Anyway it’s a disgusting term

The term is not to meant to be a reflection of our beliefs, but the differences in the consequences certain groups of people face when expressing those beliefs. I don't care what you're ideology is. I welcome your views, even if I disagree with them. But their is a double standard. Shannon Sharpe brought up the point that Tom Brady faced no backlash for his support of Trump, but could you imagine the backlash LeBron would face if he supported Louis Farrakhan?

I appreciate you being civil despite different beliefs. Sadly that’s not always the case. Let me tell you about a scary incident that took place last July My wife and I took a Ride to a nearby beach Where a bunch of BLM “ Peaceful protestors” happened to be. We minded our own business but I guess what caught their attention was that I was wearing a NYPD cap(my father is a retired NY cop). Anyway they gathered around us cursing and saying a lot of disgusting things like “Death to white boys” “F the police” and even told my wife they are going to “run a train on her”. Thankfully I grabbed her and ran while they threw things at us and even some spit on us. My wife was so shaken by the incident she didn’t leave the house at all for a couple weeks. So needless to say I do take offense when I hear terms like white privilege since I treat people right and still got nearly attacked with my wife for having different beliefs/skin color

That's terrible.

I would say that the NYPD hat triggered it more so than skin color. If you were white wearing a BLM hat or say a Knicks hat, then they probably would have left you alone. Replace yourself with a black family and that same group would have probably gotten verbally attacked with different words. Most likely Uncle Tom, sell out, house N*****, Coon. But you being white most likely did add an extra layer of aggression.

While they are wrong for their actions and words. The thoughts also should cross your mind, what has lead to this amount of resentment, pain and anger that is being unleashed?

I also would hope that this experience doesn't in turn push you to becoming extreme yourself. Hopefully you continue to treat everyone fairly.

Well I disagree. I come from a proud family of cops. I stand completely behind them and they risk their lives to keep us all safe. As a kid I was always scared of losing my dad in the line of duty. Anyway like I said my experience Had nothing to do with my beliefs. Not saying all BLM people are scum bags but there are a lot of them who are burning down cities, looting, and killing people. That’s just a fact. There are others who are peaceful and I respect that. I’m fine with different opinions as long as it’s peaceful and respectful. So no it’s not the “NYPD’s fault” I was attacked. The blame squarely falls on those individuals. Period cut and dry

Didn't say your incident was the NYPD's fault. Said that the hat is probably what triggered them. People with anger inside are jumping into all movements from BLM, Antifa, Maga etc.. Just like people with anger inside or certain beliefs joining the police force. The main difference is that due to the job police are asked to do. They get more protection. For the good cops deservedly so. For the ****ty cops, that's where things get sticky.

. I appreciate your post and your civility. Like I said I admit there are some bad cops out there sadly. However the vast majority ate very good people who serve to protect us. Obviously I’ve known hundreds and their families. I feel they have been very mistreated and mischaracterized the past 7 months which pisses me off quite frankly. It certainly pisses off my father, uncle, and other family members who still are on the force

As some have touched on already. There are people who have been mistreated by police for years upon years just the same. Which is followed up by a flawed Justice System. If your family has actively held in check and called out bad cops throughout the years when they have seen so. Then I solute them. If not, then ignoring it has only helped create this resentment.

Movements like BLM and Antifa are also regular civilians with varied backgrounds and education. They aren't trained in protesting. Police are supposed to be highly trained individuals from out tax dollars in order to protect and serve.

The overall issue is the lack of accountability in place within policing. If a ****ty cop does something ****ty. The police force gets sued, which in the end when all said and done tax payers foot the bill. So a small % of ****ty cops can do a large % of damage. And if there is no accountability for it then it hurts the whole organization. What people want to see it proper level of accountability. As well as things put in place to become more proactive than reactive. Increasing peoples quality of life will do more to reduce crime than having more police.

Police are also asked to do way to much, and are only called on to witness people at their worst.

newyorknewyork wrote:When the dude kneeled on George Floyds neck for 9mins and it was caught on camera. Why did it take massive protest to get any charges place? If it wasn't caught on camera. Police would have just investigated themselves and found no wrong doing and we would have to take their word for it. And this is how resentment builds.

Is that an issue of just some bad cops or is that a systemic issue that makes all police look bad?

JCrusher wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:When the dude kneeled on George Floyds neck for 9mins and it was caught on camera. Why did it take massive protest to get any charges place? If it wasn't caught on camera. Police would have just investigated themselves and found no wrong doing and we would have to take their word for it. And this is how resentment builds.

Is that an issue of just some bad cops or is that a systemic issue that makes all police look bad?

Ok what about the killing of David Dorn, the Dallas cops, or the cops killed in Texas. I mean you can’t just paint cops as being evil and racist. Antifa/BLM also murdered Trump supporters which is disgusting. Gotta be fair. Anyway you’re not changing your mind and I’m not changing my mind so like I said let’s just agree to disagree and move on. It was good talking to you since you have handled yourself with class I respect that

Was justice served for the ppl that killed the others? We’re they captured? We’re they arrested and charged? Are they doing prison time?