3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

3G4G wrote:Boy this post wreaks of sour graping....

Speaking of expectations what are the Knicks since trading for Melo and what are they now 3yrs later?

No I dont have sour grapes.

It's just corny when you and TKF jump from young team to young team in your attempt to throw shade on the Knicks. Denver was supposed to go further than us in the playoffs. ELIMINATED. Golden State has a great young team with a future. ELIMINATED. Durant is so efficient and Melo is a Chucker. ELIMINATED. Now onto the Pacers.

It's just corny.

We don't jump from young team...it's an ideology period doesn't matter the team. A core of youth mixed with vets with present and future in the assets in the fold has been our MO period. Doesn't matter the team.

There's a contingency of fans such as yourself that figure the Boston Celtics(although I don't necessarily include them in this ideology)/Miami Heat/Lakers Big 3 schtik was the way to go

bingo and for the record, go back and check out post. we were high on indy, chicago, and Denver... oh and we also said watch out for the warriors, I know you made mention of that as well..

we are not jumping, but have been pretty consistent.. when I hinted that you could build a winner without having to wreck your salary cap overpaying for wannabee stars, people called us crazy... this league has very few superstars, the teams that have them, have them.. but that can't and shouldn't stop you from building a super team.. something NY fans thought was crazy, because they were too wrapped up trying to duplicate miami with inferior pieces...

tkf wrote:dolan doesn't own the pacers..

You right they arent the Knicks. Knicks can afford to spend.

You do know the Pacers have one of the lowest attendance rates in the NBA and that is WITH a winning team.

AnubisADL wrote:

tkf wrote:dolan doesn't own the pacers..

You right they arent the Knicks. Knicks can afford to spend.

You do know the Pacers have one of the lowest attendance rates in the NBA and that is WITH a winning team.

you act as if the knicks ability to spend is a plus for the knicks? really?

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

3G4G wrote:He wants to stay there and they want to keep him. Vogel said they aren't letting him go. So what's the big deal? Pretty soon Tyson/Amar'e/Melo will want extensions AND?

Woodson and Grunwald said they were keeping Lin. What is your point? Money talks.

You know dam well no one but Melo is getting extended. Come on man.

West isn't getting too much more than $10mil/yr...the competition is the Atlanta Hawks and that's about it.

We also have to pay Shumpert Paul George money when Melo wants his extension since Shump is Paul George

Wrong on Shump. He becomes a restricted FA in 2015-2016. They have a team option when the extension for Amare and Melo come up.

AnubisADL wrote:

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

3G4G wrote:He wants to stay there and they want to keep him. Vogel said they aren't letting him go. So what's the big deal? Pretty soon Tyson/Amar'e/Melo will want extensions AND?

Woodson and Grunwald said they were keeping Lin. What is your point? Money talks.

You know dam well no one but Melo is getting extended. Come on man.

West isn't getting too much more than $10mil/yr...the competition is the Atlanta Hawks and that's about it.

We also have to pay Shumpert Paul George money when Melo wants his extension since Shump is Paul George

You have no idea how much a team will be willing to pay West this summer. Teams like Milwaukee could be in play as well.

Knicks can afford to spend for proven talent.

We can't get West without a S&T and we're restricted remember because we have to sign your Mollied Up Boi J.R. Smith and his brother as a package deal which will put us over the thresh hold...$76mil Tax

And I quote you...

"I can't wait until he signs his signature on the new contact"......<-----rotflol sucks having a mismanaged team

Not to mention what would it cost us to get West in A S&T should we somehow work staying under the TTH? Oh let me guess we give up Paul George to play with Paul George....

3G4G wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

tkf wrote:some of us were high on them since the end of last year....

David west is making 10 mil, he is seeing the money

Tyler hansborough? show me the money? rofl.. now this post is just flat out desperate

this is just a bitter post.. LOL

Im not bitter.

David West is going to get paid this summer and Indiana doesnt have his bird rights since they only signed him for 2 years. Still they can pay him alot of money.

Just keeping it real.

He wants to stay there and they want to keep him. Vogel said they aren't letting him go. So what's the big deal? Pretty soon Tyson/Amar'e/Melo will want extensions AND?

If West wants another contract around 10 million they will need to trade Granger this off season because they will definitely pay George. If I was them I would probably drop Stevenson and go after Toney Allen if Lance wants a 5 million deal.

This is more than likely where they will have crossroads...it's Stephenson and Granger(although they've gone this far without him and he is an expiring after next season). They probably trade Green Mahinmi first before making hardcore decisions on others. I say Psyco T is probably on the out going forward.

I worry about West and his injuries as he get older but if I am ATL I might over pay for West and give him 13 million just to knock the Pacers team dynamics.

yellowboy90 wrote:Did Hibbert just say y'all MFers. Not cool. Be more professional. Choose another word but keep the attitude.

He's getting fined for that....He's keeping it real...who watched the Pacers play or paid enough attention to care. Not many journalist to accurately assess their team and individual players.

"Indiana ranks among the least profitable teams over the last five seasons, but the team's operating income was $11 million in 2011-12, up $21 million year-over-year. The surge is mostly due to massive cuts in player costs and a trip to the Eastern Conference semifinals, the team's first in seven years. 5-year Average Profit: -$7.7 million
" -Forbes

I agree that P. George is a good talent, with off season work on his offense, he could become the type of player you build around. Indiana's problem, and they have had no problem letting players go in the past, is keeping 2 key components - West and Stephenson who both may require more money next season. As well as DJ Augustine and Hansborough we played minor role.

If they can somehow get rid of Granger, I think that covers west, but if not the pacers will have a problem with management not wanting to pay the luxury tax and the team only being 3 million under the cap without West and a few others salary.

tkf wrote:

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

3G4G wrote:Boy this post wreaks of sour graping....

Speaking of expectations what are the Knicks since trading for Melo and what are they now 3yrs later?

No I dont have sour grapes.

It's just corny when you and TKF jump from young team to young team in your attempt to throw shade on the Knicks. Denver was supposed to go further than us in the playoffs. ELIMINATED. Golden State has a great young team with a future. ELIMINATED. Durant is so efficient and Melo is a Chucker. ELIMINATED. Now onto the Pacers.

It's just corny.

We don't jump from young team...it's an ideology period doesn't matter the team. A core of youth mixed with vets with present and future in the assets in the fold has been our MO period. Doesn't matter the team.

There's a contingency of fans such as yourself that figure the Boston Celtics(although I don't necessarily include them in this ideology)/Miami Heat/Lakers Big 3 schtik was the way to go

bingo and for the record, go back and check out post. we were high on indy, chicago, and Denver... oh and we also said watch out for the warriors, I know you made mention of that as well..

we are not jumping, but have been pretty consistent.. when I hinted that you could build a winner without having to wreck your salary cap overpaying for wannabee stars, people called us crazy... this league has very few superstars, the teams that have them, have them.. but that can't and shouldn't stop you from building a super team.. something NY fans thought was crazy, because they were too wrapped up trying to duplicate miami with inferior pieces...

I think anyone that follows b-ball would be high on the bulls and pacers. Some of us were calling for Thibs to be hired over Chaney on other boards back in the old days. Guys that get it and coach right are always going to have teams you can root for. Vogel is that guy as well. Walsh's tenure in ny equaled the salad daysin Indy as far as their draft picks. I haven't been that high on the nuggets. Despite having altitude, I have never thought running teams win. Also, the team doesn't have a star unless you consider Lawson to be that. Their 2nd/3rd best player is oft injured and will miss most of next season.

CrushAlot wrote:

tkf wrote:

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

3G4G wrote:Boy this post wreaks of sour graping....

Speaking of expectations what are the Knicks since trading for Melo and what are they now 3yrs later?

No I dont have sour grapes.

It's just corny when you and TKF jump from young team to young team in your attempt to throw shade on the Knicks. Denver was supposed to go further than us in the playoffs. ELIMINATED. Golden State has a great young team with a future. ELIMINATED. Durant is so efficient and Melo is a Chucker. ELIMINATED. Now onto the Pacers.

It's just corny.

We don't jump from young team...it's an ideology period doesn't matter the team. A core of youth mixed with vets with present and future in the assets in the fold has been our MO period. Doesn't matter the team.

There's a contingency of fans such as yourself that figure the Boston Celtics(although I don't necessarily include them in this ideology)/Miami Heat/Lakers Big 3 schtik was the way to go

bingo and for the record, go back and check out post. we were high on indy, chicago, and Denver... oh and we also said watch out for the warriors, I know you made mention of that as well..

we are not jumping, but have been pretty consistent.. when I hinted that you could build a winner without having to wreck your salary cap overpaying for wannabee stars, people called us crazy... this league has very few superstars, the teams that have them, have them.. but that can't and shouldn't stop you from building a super team.. something NY fans thought was crazy, because they were too wrapped up trying to duplicate miami with inferior pieces...

I think anyone that follows b-ball would be high on the bulls and pacers. Some of us were calling for Thibs to be hired over Chaney on other boards back in the old days. Guys that get it and coach right are always going to have teams you can root for. Vogel is that guy as well. Walsh's tenure in ny equaled the salad daysin Indy as far as their draft picks. I haven't been that high on the nuggets. Despite having altitude, I have never thought running teams win. Also, the team doesn't have a star unless you consider Lawson to be that. Their 2nd/3rd best player is oft injured and will miss most of next season.

denver has more players whose games translate better to deep playoff runs than the knicks have.

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tkf wrote:

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

3G4G wrote:Boy this post wreaks of sour graping....

Speaking of expectations what are the Knicks since trading for Melo and what are they now 3yrs later?

No I dont have sour grapes.

It's just corny when you and TKF jump from young team to young team in your attempt to throw shade on the Knicks. Denver was supposed to go further than us in the playoffs. ELIMINATED. Golden State has a great young team with a future. ELIMINATED. Durant is so efficient and Melo is a Chucker. ELIMINATED. Now onto the Pacers.

It's just corny.

We don't jump from young team...it's an ideology period doesn't matter the team. A core of youth mixed with vets with present and future in the assets in the fold has been our MO period. Doesn't matter the team.

There's a contingency of fans such as yourself that figure the Boston Celtics(although I don't necessarily include them in this ideology)/Miami Heat/Lakers Big 3 schtik was the way to go

bingo and for the record, go back and check out post. we were high on indy, chicago, and Denver... oh and we also said watch out for the warriors, I know you made mention of that as well..

we are not jumping, but have been pretty consistent.. when I hinted that you could build a winner without having to wreck your salary cap overpaying for wannabee stars, people called us crazy... this league has very few superstars, the teams that have them, have them.. but that can't and shouldn't stop you from building a super team.. something NY fans thought was crazy, because they were too wrapped up trying to duplicate miami with inferior pieces...

I think anyone that follows b-ball would be high on the bulls and pacers. Some of us were calling for Thibs to be hired over Chaney on other boards back in the old days. Guys that get it and coach right are always going to have teams you can root for. Vogel is that guy as well. Walsh's tenure in ny equaled the salad daysin Indy as far as their draft picks. I haven't been that high on the nuggets. Despite having altitude, I have never thought running teams win. Also, the team doesn't have a star unless you consider Lawson to be that. Their 2nd/3rd best player is oft injured and will miss most of next season.

denver has more players whose games translate better to deep playoff runs than the knicks have.

Will see. Not this year. Maybe someone steps up and takes gallos place and they don't have other injuries and their team runs better then the warriors and clips or plays better d and half court ball and beats the spurs and Memphis. Maybe the lakers keep dantoni and do some really stupid things like let d12 walk and trade pau to prove mike's hire wasn't a mistake. Personally I think the nuggets might get to the second round if everything went right.
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How do people think Denver can improve. Is it the thought that Lawson, Faried, and McGee will progress?