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5/17/2021  1:21 PM
https://knicksfilmschool.substack.com/p/one-journey-ends-another-begins

The final placement of the Knicks’ draft picks are as follows:

- The Dallas pick will be either 21, 22 or 23, and will be determined by a random drawing, as the Mavs finished with the same win total (42) as the Lakers and Blazers.

- The Knicks own pick will be either 19 or 20, depending on a random drawing with the Hawks.

- New York’s two second round picks, originally belonging to Detroit and Philadelphia, will be 32 and 58, respectively.

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5/18/2021  9:13 AM
martin wrote:

So right now, here are our picks for this year...

19 or 20
23
32

Not bad. Thank you KP! Thank you for being such an arsehole that forced our hands to unload your stupid face and got us cap space to sign King Julius....and.... Thank you for giving us the 1st of 2 1st round picks. Oh..Fuck the horse you rode in on and **** you too Janis.

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5/18/2021  10:05 AM
NYKBocker wrote:
martin wrote:

So right now, here are our picks for this year...

19 or 20
23
32

Not bad. Thank you KP! Thank you for being such an arsehole that forced our hands to unload your stupid face and got us cap space to sign King Julius....and.... Thank you for giving us the 1st of 2 1st round picks. Oh..Fuck the horse you rode in on and **** you too Janis.

And a Euro stash at 58

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5/18/2021  10:10 AM
Because I post so much of his draft stuff, gotta add this one

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5/18/2021  11:08 AM
Should be available for one of our first round picks...Not sure he will be around for our second rounder. If we let Noel walk, Bassey can give us what Noel gave us this year, but on a rookie deal.

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5/18/2021  11:17 AM
Uptown wrote:Should be available for one of our first round picks...Not sure he will be around for our second rounder. If we let Noel walk, Bassey can give us what Noel gave us this year, but on a rookie deal.

Hadn't heard of this guy before, thanks.

Do feel the Knicks will take a big man in the first round

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5/18/2021  11:37 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/18/2021  4:11 PM
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:Should be available for one of our first round picks...Not sure he will be around for our second rounder. If we let Noel walk, Bassey can give us what Noel gave us this year, but on a rookie deal.

Hadn't heard of this guy before, thanks.

Do feel the Knicks will take a big man in the first round

I think Bassey is a late first round/early second round pick. I'm not a fan of maxing-out rim-runners/rim protectors because I think those guys are always available with 2nd round picks. (See Mitchell Robinson and Rashaun Holmes from Sac-town). If we are not planning on re-signing Noel, having a rim protector is a priority and I am not sure the Knicks want to gamble and hope Bassey will be available with our 2nd round pick even-though its an early 2nd rounder. After gaging the market, maybe we can trade down (using the Dallas Pick) to grab Bassey with a late first rounder.

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5/18/2021  12:06 PM
Uptown wrote:I think Bassey is a late first round/early second round pick. I'm not a fan of maxing-out rim-runners/rim protectors because I think those guys are always available with 2nd round picks. (See Mitchell Robinson and Rashaun Holmes for Sac-town). If we are not planning on re-signing Noel, having a rim protector is a priority and I am not sure the Knicks want to gamble and hope Bassey will be available with our 2nd round pick even-though its an early 2nd rounder. After gaging the market, maybe we can trade down (using the Dallas Pick) to grab Bassey with a late first rounder.

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5/18/2021  12:07 PM
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Uptown wrote:I think Bassey is a late first round/early second round pick. I'm not a fan of maxing-out rim-runners/rim protectors because I think those guys are always available with 2nd round picks. (See Mitchell Robinson and Rashaun Holmes for Sac-town). If we are not planning on re-signing Noel, having a rim protector is a priority and I am not sure the Knicks want to gamble and hope Bassey will be available with our 2nd round pick even-though its an early 2nd rounder. After gaging the market, maybe we can trade down (using the Dallas Pick) to grab Bassey with a late first rounder.

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5/18/2021  1:20 PM
Bassy, he from Kentucky! Western Kentucky!!!
Same as MitchRob! At least two weeks worth.
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5/18/2021  8:01 PM
Big Bassey fan. Can defend and has 3pt spacing potential.
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5/19/2021  3:00 PM
Was hoping this wouldn't happen
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5/19/2021  3:59 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Was hoping this wouldn't happen

Never thought he would get past Wizards at 15 and was probably a lottery target. He's good.

Knicks will have to trade up if they want this guy

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5/20/2021  12:44 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:Was hoping this wouldn't happen

For ****s sake!

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5/21/2021  10:10 AM
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Latest On NBA’s Lottery Standings, Draft Order

May 21st 2021 at 8:02am CST by Luke Adams

On Monday, we took an in-depth look at what we knew about the NBA’s 2021 draft lottery standings and projected draft order so far based on the regular season standings, and what was still to be determined based on play-in results, random tiebreakers, and the lottery results.

With the play-in tournament nearly over, we can fill in a few more gaps. Let’s dive in…


Lottery standings

Having been eliminated from playoff contention, the Pacers will be at No. 13 in the lottery standings, giving them a 1% chance at the first overall pick and a 4.8% shot at a top-five selection, per Tankathon.

A tiebreaker will be necessary to determine whether the Spurs or Hornets get the edge in the lottery standings, but they’ll occupy the Nos. 11 and 12 spots in the lottery standings. The winner of the tiebreaker – to be conducted next Tuesday – will have a slightly higher chance of earning the first overall pick (1.8% to 1.7%) and a top-four pick (8.5% to 8.0%).

The No. 14 spot in the lottery will be held by the loser of Friday’s Warriors/Grizzlies play-in game.


Draft order

Having clinched playoff spots, the Wizards and Celtics will draft 15th and 16th, respectively, in the first round.

The winner of tonight’s Warriors/Grizzlies play-in game will draft 17th, while the Lakers will be part of a Tuesday tiebreaker to determine their exact position — they could draft as high as 21st and as low as 23rd.

If the Lakers had missed the postseason, teams like the Heat, Knicks, and Hawks each would have been pushed down one spot in the draft. Since L.A. made it, those teams will stay put, starting with Miami at No. 18.


Notable traded second-round picks

On Monday, we focused on what would happen with 2021’s traded first-round picks. So many of this year’s second-round picks have been traded that we’re not going to run through all of them in this space (you can check our tracker for the full details), but here are a few notable second-round swaps worth flagging:

The Pacers traded their second-round pick to the Nets with 45-60 protection. Because Indiana’s second-rounder is going to land at No. 44, that pick will be sent to Brooklyn rather than being protected.

The Bulls, who will be involved in a first-round tiebreaker with the Pelicans (and Kings) to determine their spots in the lottery standings, also have the ability to swap second-round picks with New Orleans. In the event of a random tiebreaker, the second-round order is always the inverse of the first-round order — for instance, if Team A wins a first-round tiebreaker over Team B, then Team B would get the higher pick in the second round. But in this case, the Bulls could win the first-round tiebreaker, then use their second-round swap to make sure they pick ahead of the Pelicans in both rounds.

Because the Warriors‘ first-round pick will fall in the top 20, Golden State will keep it and will instead have to send the Timberwolves’ second-round pick to the Thunder to complete last year’s Kelly Oubre trade. That pick will be No. 36.

The Suns had agreed to send their second-round pick to the Grizzlies if it landed between 31-35 and to the Nets if it landed between 36-60. It’ll go to Brooklyn, since it’s the No. 59 overall selection. Memphis is simply out of luck, as Phoenix’s obligation to the Grizzlies is now extinguished.

The Bucks will get the first pick of the second round (No. 31), since the Rockets have the ability to swap their second-rounder for Milwaukee’s first-rounder (No. 24).

Other early second-round picks that will change hands include the Pistons‘ No. 32 pick (to the Knicks), the Cavaliers‘ pick at either No. 34 or 35 (to the Pelicans), and the Raptors‘ No. 37 pick (to the Pistons).

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5/21/2021  2:16 PM
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