Nalod wrote:Many issues to come up. The federal deficit. Trumps corp tax cut was a vanity project to promote his second term. His admisnistration is filled with incompetant persons who are hired by design to not challange him.
He is a walking cesspool of contradictions and hypocrisy. No accountability, humility, empathy, ability to learn, listen, and is congnitive defiecient sociopath with a narsassistic disorder.
That he was not properly vetted thru a system that accredits lawyers, accountants, or bylaws of running a publicly held corporation. Failed casinos strife with allogations money laundering followed up by failed airline venture. Numersous small failures that most "billionaires" of legitimate means won't partake like selling steaks, water, and scam education. Won't even validate his finances by disclosing his taxes.
Blame Hilary, moronic followers of Limbaugh and Fox news? Social media? Trolled citizens all blend for the perfect storm. This is all right in front of us. Listen to Trump. Just listen to the man. He is unfit. He is lazy.
IS Biden a good candidate? Im not confident he is. But at his worst he is better than Trump. A tree stump would be better. A fit vice president would suffice.
BTW, When everyone pays into universal healthcare its not free. The start up costs are massive. Math and science solves it. Not politics.

This is all true!

BRIGGS wrote:This whole problem really just started. Unless there’s a miracle — it’s going to be a 2-4 year process. How on earth can we socially distance that long? We have tens of millions out of work. I can’t believe the stick market is still rather heavy— Jesus I sold everything I had except 1 stock abd even brought cash into my home from bank in case of emergency. I’m very scared he’ll is gonna break loose

The weird part about all of this is that it was all largely either containable or preventable with the right people at the helm.

Different country dynamics but Australia and New Zealand are far down the path of vanquishing this thing, literally end of the tunnel dynamics for them.

https://www.boston.com/news/coronavirus/2020/04/24/australia-new-zealand-coronavirus

Thousands of miles from President Donald Trump’s combative news briefings, a conservative leader in Australia and a progressive prime minister in New Zealand are steadily guiding their countries toward a rapid suppression of the coronavirus outbreak.

Both nations are now reporting just a handful of new infections each day, down from hundreds in March, and they are converging toward an extraordinary goal: completely eliminating the virus from their island nations.

Whether they get to zero or not, what Australia and New Zealand have already accomplished is a remarkable cause for hope. Scott Morrison of Australia, a conservative Christian, and Jacinda Ardern, New Zealand’s darling of the left, are both succeeding with throwback democracy — in which partisanship recedes, experts lead, and quiet coordination matters more than firing up the base.

Meanwhile in the USA we have this dumb****ery at the helm and I don’t think we get to where those countries are for min 2 years. No lie

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Raise your glass of bleach spiked with hydroxychloroquine and cheers to those votes

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smackeddog wrote:
A few bigoted european countries banned 'face coverings' in an attempt to ban women wearing burqas- ironic now.

France did, and I fully support it. Religious considerations notwithstanding, you're not supposed to cover your face like some kind of outlaw under normal circumstances. Now if we're talking about religion, you may not realize these outfits are a prison for women, and for the very few extremists that try and defy the law (and who often are converted white europeans eager to "prove" themselves) there is a vast majority of muslim women who are utterly relieved that such laws exist so their families can't pressure them into wearing batman suits every day.

Please take this to another thread.

Whether they get to zero or not, what Australia and New Zealand have already accomplished is a remarkable cause for hope. Scott Morrison of Australia, a conservative Christian, and Jacinda Ardern, New Zealand’s darling of the left, are both succeeding with throwback democracy — in which partisanship recedes, experts lead, and quiet coordination matters more than firing up the base.

Doubtful the bold occurs in this country. You can't even get that to happen on a sports board here.

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jrodmc wrote:

Whether they get to zero or not, what Australia and New Zealand have already accomplished is a remarkable cause for hope. Scott Morrison of Australia, a conservative Christian, and Jacinda Ardern, New Zealand’s darling of the left, are both succeeding with throwback democracy — in which partisanship recedes, experts lead, and quiet coordination matters more than firing up the base.

Doubtful the bold occurs in this country. You can't even get that to happen on a sports board here.

I'm worried about September and what it means when enough businesses are open and parents need kids in schools/daycare to be able to support their families via jobs.

The Partisanship is KILLING our country. Literally. And because of it I don't think we are going to be prepared for September in the way we should be across the country.

It's not partisanship - that is a two sidesism fallacy.

It's republican extremism.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52465172

Coronavirus: Mike Pence flouts rule on masks at hospital

US Vice-President Mike Pence has visited a top US hospital without wearing a mask, despite the medical centre's own rules that visitors wear personal protective equipment.

Mr Pence appeared to be the only person present not in a facial covering at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota.

In a deleted tweet, the clinic said the vice-president had been notified in advance of its policy requiring masks.

Mr Pence leads the White House coronavirus taskforce.

The US government's own coronavirus-prevention advice is that people should wear face coverings "in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain".

The Mayo Clinic itself requires all patients and visitors to its medical centres to wear a mask or face covering.

Mr Pence's visit came on the same day that the US coronavirus caseload topped one million and the number of deaths surpassed 57,000.

President Donald Trump has himself previously said he has no plans to wear a mask.

Mr Pence defended his decision to flout hospitals rules as necessary in order to meet with staff and patients.

"As vice-president of the United States, I'm tested for the coronavirus on a regular basis, and everyone who is around me is tested for the coronavirus," he said.

"And when the CDC issued guidelines about wearing a mask, it was their recognition that people that may have the coronavirus could prevent the possibility of conveying the virus to someone else by wearing a mask.

"And since I don't have the coronavirus, I thought it would be a good opportunity for me to be here, to be able to speak to these researchers, these incredible healthcare personnel, and look them in the eye and say thank you."

According to news website Axios, Mr Pence has never once worn a mask while in public since the pandemic began while continuing to travel throughout the country.

An aide to Mr Pence was the first White House member to test positive for the virus in late March.

firefly wrote:No words. Just. No. Fucking. Words.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52465172

Coronavirus: Mike Pence flouts rule on masks at hospital

US Vice-President Mike Pence has visited a top US hospital without wearing a mask, despite the medical centre's own rules that visitors wear personal protective equipment.

Mr Pence appeared to be the only person present not in a facial covering at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota.

In a deleted tweet, the clinic said the vice-president had been notified in advance of its policy requiring masks.

Mr Pence leads the White House coronavirus taskforce.

The US government's own coronavirus-prevention advice is that people should wear face coverings "in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain".

The Mayo Clinic itself requires all patients and visitors to its medical centres to wear a mask or face covering.

Mr Pence's visit came on the same day that the US coronavirus caseload topped one million and the number of deaths surpassed 57,000.

President Donald Trump has himself previously said he has no plans to wear a mask.

Mr Pence defended his decision to flout hospitals rules as necessary in order to meet with staff and patients.

"As vice-president of the United States, I'm tested for the coronavirus on a regular basis, and everyone who is around me is tested for the coronavirus," he said.

"And when the CDC issued guidelines about wearing a mask, it was their recognition that people that may have the coronavirus could prevent the possibility of conveying the virus to someone else by wearing a mask.

"And since I don't have the coronavirus, I thought it would be a good opportunity for me to be here, to be able to speak to these researchers, these incredible healthcare personnel, and look them in the eye and say thank you."

According to news website Axios, Mr Pence has never once worn a mask while in public since the pandemic began while continuing to travel throughout the country.

An aide to Mr Pence was the first White House member to test positive for the virus in late March.

BRIGGS wrote:This whole problem really just started. Unless there’s a miracle — it’s going to be a 2-4 year process. How on earth can we socially distance that long? We have tens of millions out of work. I can’t believe the stick market is still rather heavy— Jesus I sold everything I had except 1 stock and even brought cash into my home from bank in case of emergency. I’m very scared hell is gonna break loose. It’s like a movie became reality.
In Fairfield today they closed Trader Joe’s because so many workers are sick

The virus is not trumps fault. I recall you supported him in 2016. How are yuou about his leadership qualities and the readiness of our infrastructure to deal with the current epidemic?
Foget banging porn stars while wife pregnant, the lack of transparancy, his peripheral advisors in jail, and lack of agency accountability, the incessent lack of integrity in half his sentences, what about the man in charge and readiness to deal with this?

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