NYKBocker wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:I got off work late and missed most of the game. WTF happened tonight? Lin looked shook as hell, I saw the Knicks getting jerked on calls in what little I caught of the 1st half, but they were hanging in there. I get home, and I see the Knicks down double digits, with body language like they had already lost by the time the one minute into the 4th quarter, and the idiot sportscasters sucking the Heat like porno whores...

They shut Lin down? Damn, this was played up as the Big Game, and Jeremy looked like a deer in headlights. Not looking forward to seeing the highlights, and probably won't watch the the replay since I recorded it.

Why, in the 4th quarter, were the Knicks just watching rebounds sail over their heads and not looking motivated enough to grab the ball? I saw no sense of emergency from the Knick players on the floor as they showed in the past several games. It actually reminded me of some of the Knicks years that I'm still trying to forget.

I know the team still has to gel, but I am curious to know who among the NYK players even tried to step up as a leader and tell the other players to MAN THE HELL UP...
Now I will have to attempt to prevent this poor performance from putting a damper on my All-Star weekend. Ugh...

When Miami took Lin away from the game, we reverted to the pre-Linsanity Knicks and then we just fell apart in the 4th. We hung our heads, definitely.

If that is how it went down, we got exposed. This team still lacks leadership. Where were the Knicks' "tri-Captains"???? Did they "try" to galvanize the head-hung players and demand they the bitchassness stop? That should not have to all fall on Lin to do, because there are a lot of other guys out there on the floor who SHOULD have more heart than that. Where were the vocal leaders? Were they hanging their heads, too?

What made me the most disgusted was that too often during the 4th quarter, the Knick team on the floor looked scared, confused and already defeated when they still had a fighting chance to get back in the gotdamn game and close those wretched Heat bastards the hell out.

Trying to stave off the inevitable headache now...

Tyson tried and even got a tech. Melo pissed me off a little as he was smiling and socializing with Wade and LeDouche the whole game. Amare was trying and carried us for a bit in the 1st half but he could not continue the same effort in the 2nd half.

Most objective post on the entire thread. Lin needs confidence. It's stupid to look at his assist numbers when everybody on the team misses layups. The veterans on the team should be playing extra hard to bail him out in a situation like this but they didn't even show up. And Woodson needs to teach this team how to play zone. Last two years the Knicks played better zone. Tyson had little Impact today.

Once the game started Miami had an intense game face and they don't seem to be amazed by themselves nor are they clowning around out there.

Their speed on defense and fast breaking was awesome.

We did not lose, they beat us good! They are the benchmark club right now and they were awesome.

No dancing and self adulation on that team. They have a game face on and were not messing around.

Lin has to be tired and the dream was bound to end. Not to disrespect Lin in any way, but its almost been "too easy" of late, especially against the ATL.

Miami is the best in the league and they make lots of teams look bad.

If you expected more, then it was a tough game to watch.

Baron Davis would have sucked as "savior"!

The Lin era is 9-3. Not Prime time yet. But a team on the rise.

So much work to do still.

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:I got off work late and missed most of the game. WTF happened tonight? Lin looked shook as hell, I saw the Knicks getting jerked on calls in what little I caught of the 1st half, but they were hanging in there. I get home, and I see the Knicks down double digits, with body language like they had already lost by the time the one minute into the 4th quarter, and the idiot sportscasters sucking the Heat like porno whores...

They shut Lin down? Damn, this was played up as the Big Game, and Jeremy looked like a deer in headlights. Not looking forward to seeing the highlights, and probably won't watch the the replay since I recorded it.

Why, in the 4th quarter, were the Knicks just watching rebounds sail over their heads and not looking motivated enough to grab the ball? I saw no sense of emergency from the Knick players on the floor as they showed in the past several games. It actually reminded me of some of the Knicks years that I'm still trying to forget.

I know the team still has to gel, but I am curious to know who among the NYK players even tried to step up as a leader and tell the other players to MAN THE HELL UP...
Now I will have to attempt to prevent this poor performance from putting a damper on my All-Star weekend. Ugh...

When Miami took Lin away from the game, we reverted to the pre-Linsanity Knicks and then we just fell apart in the 4th. We hung our heads, definitely.

If that is how it went down, we got exposed. This team still lacks leadership. Where were the Knicks' "tri-Captains"???? Did they "try" to galvanize the head-hung players and demand that the bitchassness stop? That should not have to all fall on Lin to do, because there are a lot of other guys out there on the floor who SHOULD have more heart than that. Where were the vocal leaders? Were they hanging their heads, too?

What made me the most disgusted was that too often during the 4th quarter, the Knick team on the floor looked scared, confused and already defeated when they still had a fighting chance to get back in the gotdamn game and close those wretched Heat bastards the hell out.

Trying to stave off the inevitable headache now...

I hear you on this, but you have to at least acknowledge that the Heat team (as currently constructed) carries such swagger that it's hard to avoid slipping into that "we're beaten" mode. Down ten in the fourth quarter, with their stifling defense and seeming ability to score without obstruction, it's gotta be tough even for professional players to deal with the emotions.

But that's what a playoff team MUST do to prevail. So we clearly have a way to go until we're ready for the ECF. But I do not doubt for a minute that we CAN do it once the Knicks gel and become better at what they do.

I definitely think Lin will improve. He was roughed up last night and got little respect from the refs. So many non-calls and he clearly had lost his legs due to fatigue. This caused him to start picking up his dribble. Also, his team mates were not finishing, so he probably felt a bit dejected and resigned to their fate.

NYKBocker wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:the Heat basically mugged the Knicks over and over again last night. I was really impressed how they hung in there during the first half, when the crap refs called an awful game. But then in the second half I didn't see the same fight. That was a little disappointing

Same here. Until Knicks get the calls when mugged, this is going to be a difficult 2nd half of the season. refs are basically saying just hit Lin and you will win the game.

Lin got the worst of it, but I thought the entire team got smacked around. There was a point at the pub last night were I started screaming that JR and Melo should have sucker punched someone. No one though I was crazy, and this was in Virginia

D'Antoni is a fcking gimmick. No adjustments whatsoever. Outside of point guard pnr this fool can't generate any other offense. There is not a single play designed to give Melo good looks in this offense. It's either play off point guard pnr like Walker did, or become a bad guy and isolate, although every damn team in the league isolates.

SupremeCommander wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:the Heat basically mugged the Knicks over and over again last night. I was really impressed how they hung in there during the first half, when the crap refs called an awful game. But then in the second half I didn't see the same fight. That was a little disappointing

Same here. Until Knicks get the calls when mugged, this is going to be a difficult 2nd half of the season. refs are basically saying just hit Lin and you will win the game.

Lin got the worst of it, but I thought the entire team got smacked around. There was a point at the pub last night were I started screaming that JR and Melo should have sucker punched someone. No one though I was crazy, and this was in Virginia

at some point you have to make the refs clean up the game.. yes lin had a bad game, but he was grabbed, pushed , slapped and held all game... same with melo.... I watched norris cole drive to the hoop throw up some prayer crap shot with no where to go and get a foul.... i was like praying for a hard foul, a couple of flagrant fouls from the knicks, at least to make the refs call it tight on both ends... I think that would have worked in our favor as miami seems to like to reach every single time...

Syniko - Novak at the two, or at the three spot?

Miami got away with murder on Lin. He was fouled early and often.

JCrusher wrote:

misterearl wrote:Interesting

Syniko - Novak at the two, or at the three spot?

Miami got away with murder on Lin. He was fouled early and often.

ya miami was at home so they got the home cooking i guess. id like to see miami beat us when we are on full rest and our team has had time to gel

I don't know, Miami will still be pretty good in 2016.

Syniko wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

misterearl wrote:Interesting

Syniko - Novak at the two, or at the three spot?

Miami got away with murder on Lin. He was fouled early and often.

ya miami was at home so they got the home cooking i guess. id like to see miami beat us when we are on full rest and our team has had time to gel

I don't know, Miami will still be pretty good in 2016.

Yeah, they're so good they went into panic mode and drained all their defensive ability all on Lin by acting like he's Jordan or Kobe. Heat was just lucky the rest of Knicks were ineffective.

Lin was shut down therefore, Heat won. If Lin was left open, Heat loses. Pretty much it.

Yea but, I mean, if you leave any player open you have good chance of losing.

Syniko wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

Syniko wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

misterearl wrote:Interesting

Syniko - Novak at the two, or at the three spot?

Miami got away with murder on Lin. He was fouled early and often.

ya miami was at home so they got the home cooking i guess. id like to see miami beat us when we are on full rest and our team has had time to gel

I don't know, Miami will still be pretty good in 2016.

Yeah, they're so good they went into panic mode and drained all their defensive ability all on Lin by acting like he's Jordan or Kobe. Heat was just lucky the rest of Knicks were ineffective.

Lin was shut down therefore, Heat won. If Lin was left open, Heat loses. Pretty much it.

Yea but, I mean, if you leave any player open you have good chance of losing.

I'm just pointing out how absurd it is for a number 1 rank team to react the way they did against Lin. That's all. It's testament to how amazing Jeremy Lin is despite his poor performance.

Absurd that every other teams around the league are preparing themselves to stop Lin because they know he's dangerous if left unguarded. I take that as a compliment.

I agree. They're approaching him like he's Jordan, and that's a good sign I think.

Now if we can just clean the roster up a little...