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holfresh
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5/23/2013  11:13 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/23/2013  11:14 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Your argument was that Melo should not shoot as many shots because he is having a bad outing..He should allow others with a higher percentage to shoot...Well it turns out he has the highest lowest shooting percentage of the starters outside of Chandler Prigioni, who is tied with him at 40%...

Fixed
I don't know if you still haven't figured out that the column with shooting percentage is labelled "FG%" I keep posting the link for you
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/ny/new-york-knicks

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/4182/pablo-prigioni

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1975/carmelo-anthony

Here u go Bonn..U need to be led ....Indy series percentages...

The Boston series doesn't count? Why are we not counting the reserves? They play with Melo too since he's on the court so much.
Thanks for the link. You may not realize it but it actually shows that Pablo too shot better than Melo did in the Indy series.

I think I get it now - it's just like Sir Charles. I need to be more supportive and incorrect in order to get credit from you.

Bonn..U aren't a guy looking for solutions...U are more interested in perpetuating a blind argument...Why would u look at reserves when they don't play...Your original point was that since Melo wasn't shooting well he should allow someone else with a higher percentage shoot..Novak has a higher percentage but he isn't playing is he..

Solutions aren't your goal...Anti-Melo rants are...
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5/23/2013  11:23 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/23/2013  11:24 AM
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Your argument was that Melo should not shoot as many shots because he is having a bad outing..He should allow others with a higher percentage to shoot...Well it turns out he has the highest lowest shooting percentage of the starters outside of Chandler Prigioni, who is tied with him at 40%...

Fixed
I don't know if you still haven't figured out that the column with shooting percentage is labelled "FG%" I keep posting the link for you
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/ny/new-york-knicks

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/4182/pablo-prigioni

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1975/carmelo-anthony

Here u go Bonn..U need to be led ....Indy series percentages...

The Boston series doesn't count? Why are we not counting the reserves? They play with Melo too since he's on the court so much.
Thanks for the link. You may not realize it but it actually shows that Pablo too shot better than Melo did in the Indy series.

I think I get it now - it's just like Sir Charles. I need to be more supportive and incorrect in order to get credit from you.

Bonn..U aren't a guy looking for solutions...U are more interested in perpetuating a blind argument...Why would u look at reserves when they don't play...Your original point was that since Melo wasn't shooting well he should allow someone else with a higher percentage shoot..Novak has a higher percentage but he isn't playing is he..

Solutions aren't your goal...Anti-Melo rants are...


The solution is to share the ball better - it's not complicated.
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5/23/2013  11:42 AM
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Your argument was that Melo should not shoot as many shots because he is having a bad outing..He should allow others with a higher percentage to shoot...Well it turns out he has the highest lowest shooting percentage of the starters outside of Chandler Prigioni, who is tied with him at 40%...

Fixed
I don't know if you still haven't figured out that the column with shooting percentage is labelled "FG%" I keep posting the link for you
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/ny/new-york-knicks

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/4182/pablo-prigioni

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1975/carmelo-anthony

Here u go Bonn..U need to be led ....Indy series percentages...

The Boston series doesn't count? Why are we not counting the reserves? They play with Melo too since he's on the court so much.
Thanks for the link. You may not realize it but it actually shows that Pablo too shot better than Melo did in the Indy series.

I think I get it now - it's just like Sir Charles. I need to be more supportive and incorrect in order to get credit from you.

Bonn..U aren't a guy looking for solutions...U are more interested in perpetuating a blind argument...Why would u look at reserves when they don't play...Your original point was that since Melo wasn't shooting well he should allow someone else with a higher percentage shoot..Novak has a higher percentage but he isn't playing is he..

Solutions aren't your goal...Anti-Melo rants are...

Only "constructive criticism? "nothing good to say, say nothing?"

WE got rules?
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5/23/2013  11:58 AM
dk7th wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:paul playing like our star should have been playing, a crisp 7-16 for 27 points not 7 for 22 for 23 points

Actually that is 43.7% shooting...Melo shot poorly at 45% for the series...So who is crisp?.

And if Melo blew a defensive assignment and let Lebron walk in for a lay up all the good stats would be erased and the war of words would continue. Until the Knicks win a title the battle will continue.

if melo was on the pacers in paul george's place the miami heat would have blown them out by 25 points.

haha, you beat me to it...

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5/23/2013  12:01 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:paul playing like our star should have been playing, a crisp 7-16 for 27 points not 7 for 22 for 23 points

Actually that is 43.7% shooting...Melo shot poorly at 45% for the series...So who is crisp?.

melo shot 42.8%FG against indiana.

game 1 35.7
game 2 50.0
game 3 37.5
game 4 39.1
game 5 42.9
game 6 51.7

you add these 6 figures together to get

256.9

and then you divide this number by the number of games he played which was 6

256.9 divided by 6 = 42.8 paCENT

he had a 51.1%TS

paul george last night against the nba champs had a 64.8%TS and he had 5 assists. his usg/ast ratio was 1.33:1 which is a superior number for the small forward position.

oh and he was guarding lebron james one on one all night.

Or if you count each shot rather than going by game, it's 43.3%. Either way, it's not 45. You're right that TS% is more important than FG% and that George moves the ball much better than Melo does.

So who is shooting a better percentage regardless of what the percentage is??


Do you not realize that the column indicating the shooting percentage is labeled "FG%"?

So what is the game of the individual Melo should be giving up shots for???


No one. I already said Melo should be averaging 60 shots and -0.5 assists per game.

U can't say because it makes your argument look silly...


Oh, it was a serious question? He should be sharing the ball better with everyone on the roster. The names of the players don't even matter. If you've made it to the NBA, you can hit open shots at a higher percentage than Melo (or most players) hits contested shots. How did Durant manage to average over 6 assists a game this post-season?

exactly, I forgot what player said this, but he said, it is your job as a player to play the right way and hit the open guy for the shot, not to refuse to pass to him because you think he will miss.. if that player is missing, it is up to the coach to take him out, not for you to freeze him out.... and when you are shooting as poorly as carmelo, you should pass the ball to the open man... period!

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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5/23/2013  1:43 PM
That was a terrible coaching move taking out Hibbert--why exactly do you have Hibbert--to anchor your defense. So why in Gods green earth would you sit him at the most crucial defensive time? Worst case scenario with Hibbert is Chris Bosh moving outside for an 18 foot catch dn shoot with 2 seconds left.
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5/23/2013  2:40 PM
BRIGGS wrote:That was a terrible coaching move taking out Hibbert--why exactly do you have Hibbert--to anchor your defense. So why in Gods green earth would you sit him at the most crucial defensive time? Worst case scenario with Hibbert is Chris Bosh moving outside for an 18 foot catch dn shoot with 2 seconds left.

Exactly what I was thinking. Let's see which is the lessor of 2 evils? A lefty layup by Lebron or a contested fadeaway 18-20 footer by Bosh at the buzzer...hmmm?

Vogel outcoached himself on that last play. Overanalyzed the situation.
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5/23/2013  3:09 PM
Nalod wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Your argument was that Melo should not shoot as many shots because he is having a bad outing..He should allow others with a higher percentage to shoot...Well it turns out he has the highest lowest shooting percentage of the starters outside of Chandler Prigioni, who is tied with him at 40%...

Fixed
I don't know if you still haven't figured out that the column with shooting percentage is labelled "FG%" I keep posting the link for you
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/ny/new-york-knicks

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/4182/pablo-prigioni

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1975/carmelo-anthony

Here u go Bonn..U need to be led ....Indy series percentages...

The Boston series doesn't count? Why are we not counting the reserves? They play with Melo too since he's on the court so much.
Thanks for the link. You may not realize it but it actually shows that Pablo too shot better than Melo did in the Indy series.

I think I get it now - it's just like Sir Charles. I need to be more supportive and incorrect in order to get credit from you.

Bonn..U aren't a guy looking for solutions...U are more interested in perpetuating a blind argument...Why would u look at reserves when they don't play...Your original point was that since Melo wasn't shooting well he should allow someone else with a higher percentage shoot..Novak has a higher percentage but he isn't playing is he..

Solutions aren't your goal...Anti-Melo rants are...

Only "constructive criticism? "nothing good to say, say nothing?"

WE got rules?

What????..Are u following the discussion???.It's nothing but constructive...
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5/23/2013  9:22 PM
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ChuckBuck wrote:Underrated play call by Spoelstra, that was terrific!

Woody should have listened to me and pulled Hibbert away from the basket. That's why you play Amare and Copeland. Knicks had some poor shooting but Woody just didn't know how to exploit Indians weakness.

Tell me about it, that was a no brainer and we would be playing Miami not the Pacers.

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5/24/2013  9:11 PM
Lol no more hacking Lebron. Must be nice.
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5/24/2013  9:14 PM
playa2 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Underrated play call by Spoelstra, that was terrific!

Woody should have listened to me and pulled Hibbert away from the basket. That's why you play Amare and Copeland. Knicks had some poor shooting but Woody just didn't know how to exploit Indians weakness.

Tell me about it, that was a no brainer and we would be playing Miami not the Pacers.

Bosh/Battier>Cope/Amare. I guess Woodson lost the series when he cut Amare from 18 minutes to 7.
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5/24/2013  9:15 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Lol no more hacking Lebron. Must be nice.

u mean no more staring at LeBron. Also, Andersen is an amazing cutter he really knows how to find the open spaces. Very similar to Amar'e in that ability.
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5/24/2013  9:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/24/2013  9:18 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Lol no more hacking Lebron. Must be nice.

u mean no more staring at LeBron. Also, Andersen is an amazing cutter he really knows how to find the open spaces. Very similar to Amar'e in that ability.

Anybody can cut to the basket if Hibbert is supposed to be guarding them. He wants to guard the guy driving to the basket.

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5/24/2013  9:17 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
playa2 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Underrated play call by Spoelstra, that was terrific!

Woody should have listened to me and pulled Hibbert away from the basket. That's why you play Amare and Copeland. Knicks had some poor shooting but Woody just didn't know how to exploit Indians weakness.

Tell me about it, that was a no brainer and we would be playing Miami not the Pacers.

Bosh/Battier>Cope/Amare. I guess Woodson lost the series when he cut Amare from 18 minutes to 7.

As a shooter Cope is the best and its something you have to try. Also, he didn't even try it against Mahimi for much of the series.
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5/24/2013  9:18 PM
Hansbrough just hacks guys.
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5/24/2013  9:19 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
playa2 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Underrated play call by Spoelstra, that was terrific!

Woody should have listened to me and pulled Hibbert away from the basket. That's why you play Amare and Copeland. Knicks had some poor shooting but Woody just didn't know how to exploit Indians weakness.

Tell me about it, that was a no brainer and we would be playing Miami not the Pacers.

Bosh/Battier>Cope/Amare. I guess Woodson lost the series when he cut Amare from 18 minutes to 7.

As a shooter Cope is the best and its something you have to try. Also, he didn't even try it against Mahimi for much of the series.

This is what those non knicks fans can't see.

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5/24/2013  9:21 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Hansbrough just hacks guys.

That was a freaking dumb foul
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5/24/2013  9:24 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
playa2 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Underrated play call by Spoelstra, that was terrific!

Woody should have listened to me and pulled Hibbert away from the basket. That's why you play Amare and Copeland. Knicks had some poor shooting but Woody just didn't know how to exploit Indians weakness.

Tell me about it, that was a no brainer and we would be playing Miami not the Pacers.

Bosh/Battier>Cope/Amare. I guess Woodson lost the series when he cut Amare from 18 minutes to 7.

As a shooter Cope is the best and its something you have to try. Also, he didn't even try it against Mahimi for much of the series.

I do think Woodson should have played Cope more especially the way other guys were struggling. That being said, I don't think you can kill him for going more with the guys that got him there. His desperation move was game 4 and it backfired. I think most coaches tighten their rotation and go with their vets in the playoffs. Woodson seemed to lose some faith in Cope after game 1 of the Celtics series and never totally got it back. In my opinion playing cope more made sense but I don't think it swings the series.
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5/24/2013  9:24 PM
LMAO. Indiana isn't allowed to bang Miami. Must be nice.
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5/24/2013  9:29 PM
AnubisADL wrote:LMAO. Indiana isn't allowed to bang Miami. Must be nice.
Yeah this was expected.
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