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djsunyc wrote:let's be real here...to these maga idiots, america means white supremacy. trump flag, confederate flag - that's america to them. not the flag that includes black and brown people.

these people are poor and uneducated and easily manipulated to do the bidding of the rich and white - which is the saddest thing of it all. pawns.

the people i don't get are the well off white votes that voted for him. that's some deep deep damage on the individual level. subconsciously racist w/o maybe not knowing it. insecure and vulnerable that like a big tough guy bully. just angry for no damn reason. unfortunately they are supporting one of the most selfish and corrupt humans on the planet.

they can all live in their bubble where every looks and talks like them and have the same faith. give the real america the east and west coast and they can have everything else - they can go nuts partying with the biggest ball of yarn.

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technomaster wrote:They talk about other dark days in American history... this might be the worst.

History will not only look at Trump as the worse US president ever, but the worse in the history of the Free world. Well, those revamped Apprentice ratings should do well.

Our allies are crying...our adversaries are laughing.

I pretty much watched everything. I'm waiting for the investigation into how the capitol police f'd this up, and who gave the orders for them to do their jobs like drunken school crossing guards.

Heads should roll, resignations should be asked for and accepted, and the House should impeach Trump for a second time.

And we still have not heard an administration, security, or police authority do a press conference.

We are bloody laughing stock, and Trump now takes his place as the worst American leader of my lifetime.

The cultural “blame game” will make us feel better. Not the first time in history masses fell for a narcissist sociopath. IN fact one might say this was a long time coming and perhaps the lesson is we vet our leaders better. We picked a TV personality with little substance. He never practiced law so we never saw him pass the bar, practice with no infractions, understand the laws, and be transparent to be certified. This would include run a publicly held company and be accountable to laws pertaining to finance and a board of directors. The man was a mirage we talked ourselves into believing. The self interest groups of orthodox religions (both Jewish and Christian) used him. The Russians needing sanctions relaxed used him. The American corporations used him to lower taxes. The ultra rich used him. Trump gave them what they wanted.
I believe he has a history of money laundering thru shady real estate deals and thru the failed casinos.
The lack of transparency from not showing his taxes was a clear suggesting things are not pure enough. He was compromised. I have no proof other than a bad sense 4 years ago and the resulting presidency. He surrounded himself with many who have been prosecuted.
With no answers to solve our nations problems we voted this guy in under the “what do we have to lose”.
Fact is maybe we need to emphasize what we do have as a nation instead of treating ourselves like “the customer is always right” in a fine department store. We are not entitled to everything.
At the end of the day we should be lucky if we can get out of this (11 more days) without launching a self serving war or inflicting a nuke on others. That hundreds were not killed yesterday was a blessing. While it never should have come to it I am greatful restraint was used to the mob instead of exacting violence to suppress it.

It was a white mob. It looked like a Ted Nugent concert. It was a misguided group that is in need of hope. It is not over. White nationalism has existed all thru our history. It was consolidated yesterday.

MY mind spins with hypocracy and the lack of sense of what that mob thought would happen. The fact they came from near and far to even congregate is an issue. That they followed on mans lies and the symptomatic build up of media and politicians that hitched on to trump for self promotion is disturbing. He was given the stage one more time and whipped them up into a frenzy for his self purpose.
Mao of china, Mussolini in Italy, and Hitler is among many charismatic leaders who sociopath character enabled their ambitions to be fulfilled. History does not remember the many many failed attempts of such a power grab but rest assured they exist. Good does prevail but not all the time.
yesterday we certified the election, few people were killed, we got rattled and perhaps might learn a bit and we might have to be a little more humble and tend to our democracy and treat it with respect. We took it for granted. Thats what happened when we elected trump.

This is Nalod the morning after. Glad we move on, glad we can win without Quickly being a savior every night, and we need more dudes like Austin Rivers who get it done and be cool doing it.

This all was already explained in Idiocracy movie.
Leaders never come from nowhere - Trump is creation of American culture, political and otherwise.
It is a mirror of what American society become - the reality show which went wrong.
It is time for all American people to take their head out of their a..sss and stop blaming each other for the sins of the past.
Time to see what we can do for each other not at what we are guilty off by association.
It is ironic that man who was dividing us for 4 years managed to bring so many people together in one month.
Go figure...

Not owning up to the sins of the past which continues to be embedded within American society today has been one of the main problems. This line of thinking is only voiced in order to avoid accountability. Or due to misinformation that its sins of the past and not sins that are embedded within the fabric of society causing progress to be extremely slow. POC voiced the concerns for white privilege, police brutality, double standards within the justice system, right wingers infiltrating positions of power like law enforcement, judges, teachers, etc etc etc.

Which has all come out in full display for the world to see over these years and came to a head on Wednesday. Were off duty law enforcement and veterans were apart of the insurrection. All while this has been denied for decades by the public. The pathway forward is to accept these realities. Admit the failures to acknowledge these concerns. Be accountable to do everything in our power to rectify the wrongs and build a better future. In order to heal from the past. First the realities of America needs to be educated especially in schools. And not the white washed versions which only leads to lack of trust once people mature. Systemic racism which has been sown in needs eliminated. If I was a racist who gained a position of power like a cop or judge or teacher. As long as I didn't do anything extreme like kneel on a persons neck for 9 mins. What is currently in place to hold me accountable for my day to day decisions that effect others lives?

The division has only been allowed due to racism. Racism has made people easy to manipulate. Government have been screwing its people for a long time. And have continued to get away with it through manipulating minds with racism. Majority of the policies progressives have been pushing would greatly help the very people looking to storm the capital, but racism.

The positive though, I would say that we are closer today than we ever have to start working on and implementing actual solutions as crazy as that sounds after the current events.

arkrud wrote:This all was already explained in Idiocracy movie.
Leaders never come from nowhere - Trump is creation of American culture, political and otherwise.
It is a mirror of what American society become - the reality show which went wrong.
It is time for all American people to take their head out of their a..sss and stop blaming each other for the sins of the past.
Time to see what we can do for each other not at what we are guilty off by association.
It is ironic that man who was dividing us for 4 years managed to bring so many people together in one month.
Go figure...

nice sentiment...not gonna happen. insecure, weak, uneducated and racist white people are threatened. there is no solution here. there is no fix. the US is a sinking ship and every single person that voted for trump made the hole bigger.

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orchestrated attack.

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Wonder if he had this same energy when Trump installed the Muslim travel ban?

The privilege of this guy. Blaming everyone else when he attacked a joint session of congress. These people really believe they could go to washigton try to overthrow the government and just go on with their lives like nothing happened. How fd in the head do you have to be to believe that.

martin wrote:LOL

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