Marv wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

martin wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Maybe you guys are right. Maybe Biden is better than Trump. I honestly don't know. We will not find out likely as Trump will crush him. That's my prediction.

Honest, direct question: How is this a maybe question to you? What do you think of Trump and why do you think maybe he is in the same political realm as Biden?

Let's start with Trump. He is terrible for the environment, terrible for the lower income population and his stance on healthcare is horrendous. He withdrew troops from Syria.

Biden is better for the environment but is just as horrendous on healthcare, was for invading Iraq and overthrowing Saddam Hussein. Also was for bombing of Kosovo. This kinda scares me. He wants to decriminalize pot on the federal level. Because of his environment and pro-cannabis stance he seems better. Because he is pro- military it's gets downgraded to " maybe better"

brother u got a lot of work to do to educate yourself. Biden was a major driving force behind obtaining the affordable care act which republicans went on a major offensive against and then trump did everytbing possible to decimate.

If by Affordable Care Act you mean OBAMAcare and if by "major driving force" you mean riding Barak's coat tails and not voting against his party then yes. How about publicly promising to Veto Medicare for All just like Trump? Because the military spending is too precious to cut. Hmm, I dunno.

martin wrote:Bros, it's 2am and I was just drinking for 6 straight hours and my fav pizza joint called Bernie's is closed but I'm DYING for a slice.

Should I go next door and get a so-so slice of pizza at Joe's or should I eat coronavirus infected orange-colored **** off the sidewalk? I can't decide

This is funny! It really won't matter if YOU go to Joe's or not. Now if you were a resident of Iowa or Pensilvania then maybe it would make a difference

Marv wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Marv wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

martin wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Maybe you guys are right. Maybe Biden is better than Trump. I honestly don't know. We will not find out likely as Trump will crush him. That's my prediction.

Honest, direct question: How is this a maybe question to you? What do you think of Trump and why do you think maybe he is in the same political realm as Biden?

Let's start with Trump. He is terrible for the environment, terrible for the lower income population and his stance on healthcare is horrendous. He withdrew troops from Syria.

Biden is better for the environment but is just as horrendous on healthcare, was for invading Iraq and overthrowing Saddam Hussein. Also was for bombing of Kosovo. This kinda scares me. He wants to decriminalize pot on the federal level. Because of his environment and pro-cannabis stance he seems better. Because he is pro- military it's gets downgraded to " maybe better"

brother u got a lot of work to do to educate yourself. Biden was a major driving force behind obtaining the affordable care act which republicans went on a major offensive against and then trump did everytbing possible to decimate.

If by Affordable Care Act you mean OBAMAcare and if by "major driving force" you mean riding Barak's coat tails and not voting against his party then yes. How about publicly promising to Veto Medicare for All just like Trump? Because the military spending is too precious to cut. Hmm, I dunno.

dude if u had the slightest amount of knowledge and perspective of the value of joe biden vs donald trump it would be worth talking to you more. Unfortunately you’re clueless and i’m done with you. I feel for you and anyone you influence that you are so blind that you would promote donald trump in any way or form to have a voice in how this world operates. peace out and i hope there’s hope for you.

That's fair. I cannot get hope tho, that has been taken away from me when Bernie said "Joe is a good man" The fact that I had to prove that Biden is better than Trump, as if there really is doubt, speaks for itself

1. Today I outlined a phased plan to safely reopen New York at the appropriate time, taking a regional approach. Phase one will be to reopen low-risk construction and manufacturing businesses in parts of the state that have experienced a 14-day decline in the hospitalization rate. Phase two will open certain industries based on priority and risk level. (Businesses considered "more essential" with inherent low risks of infection in the workplace and to the customer will be prioritized.) Officials are closely monitoring the hospitalization rate, the infection rate, and other key health indicators, and will make adjustments to the plan based on this crucial data.

2. There will be a two-week waiting period in-between phases of this plan to monitor the effect. This will help ensure that the hospitalizations and infection rates are not increasing as some workers begin to return to work.

3. Businesses and industries will create plans that include new measures to protect employees and consumers. The physical workplace will have to be reimagined to be safer, and businesses must implement processes that lower the risk of infection. The state is consulting with local leaders in each region and industry to formulate these plans.

4. Multi-state coordination is key, especially in downstate New York, where the outbreak has been more severe. We will work with neighboring states to ensure safe and consistent policies. In downstate New York, special attention will be taken to ensure the safety of low-income communities.

BRIGGS wrote:You need to get all people the best available masks and gloves you can get. Testing is one thing BUT protection is PRIORITY. Not a f scarf over your face but a high quality n95 mask— and I mean everyone gets them for FREE ASAP. People need protection because it will be impossible to do long term quarantines. Life has to come back and people need the government abd the states to protect the people// their number 1 priority

100% and this is why we are failing as a country. Places like Germany and SKorea are opening for a reason.

I am a bit doubtful that we will even get there by Sept when schools should open again

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:You need to get all people the best available masks and gloves you can get. Testing is one thing BUT protection is PRIORITY. Not a f scarf over your face but a high quality n95 mask— and I mean everyone gets them for FREE ASAP. People need protection because it will be impossible to do long term quarantines. Life has to come back and people need the government abd the states to protect the people// their number 1 priority

100% and this is why we are failing as a country. Places like Germany and SKorea are opening for a reason.

I am a bit doubtful that we will even get there by Sept when schools should open again

then some idiots are gonna say the government is forcing people to wear a niqab and the muslims are winning.

franco12 wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:You need to get all people the best available masks and gloves you can get. Testing is one thing BUT protection is PRIORITY. Not a f scarf over your face but a high quality n95 mask— and I mean everyone gets them for FREE ASAP. People need protection because it will be impossible to do long term quarantines. Life has to come back and people need the government abd the states to protect the people// their number 1 priority

100% and this is why we are failing as a country. Places like Germany and SKorea are opening for a reason.

I am a bit doubtful that we will even get there by Sept when schools should open again

This would be ideal - but look back at the Atlantic Media article I posted a couple pages back - 'if 80% of the population wears a mask that is 60% effective, the transmission rate drops below 1' - meaning we knock this virus out. That is obviously 1 expert opinion. Get yourself a cloth mask. I made my own - I bought a sewing machine just for the purpose! - or order some - I did that as well.

I don't know that you need cloves - just wash your hands and don't touch your face.

I wear a mask pretty much whenever I go out- which is mostly walking my dogs. I see a lot of people not wearing masks. The main purpose of the mask is if you have it, stops it from being easily spread.

But if we had real president like Obama, I could see the Federal Govt. calling up 3M and ordering a billion+ n95 masks and having them freely available at schools, pharmacies, etc.

Hmm interesting and perhaps I should have provided more detail. Feel like for things like grocery shopping and maybe travel by subway, etc. gloves and mask would be necessary for the time being (gloves may be overkill but prudent if hand washing is not immediately/readily available?).

When I walk around my neighborhood I don't wear mask but I am in a suburban area and if I see and pass a few people it is rare'ish, absolutely wear one if going shopping, etc. where social interaction is bound to happen.

martin wrote:

franco12 wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:You need to get all people the best available masks and gloves you can get. Testing is one thing BUT protection is PRIORITY. Not a f scarf over your face but a high quality n95 mask— and I mean everyone gets them for FREE ASAP. People need protection because it will be impossible to do long term quarantines. Life has to come back and people need the government abd the states to protect the people// their number 1 priority

100% and this is why we are failing as a country. Places like Germany and SKorea are opening for a reason.

I am a bit doubtful that we will even get there by Sept when schools should open again

This would be ideal - but look back at the Atlantic Media article I posted a couple pages back - 'if 80% of the population wears a mask that is 60% effective, the transmission rate drops below 1' - meaning we knock this virus out. That is obviously 1 expert opinion. Get yourself a cloth mask. I made my own - I bought a sewing machine just for the purpose! - or order some - I did that as well.

I don't know that you need cloves - just wash your hands and don't touch your face.

I wear a mask pretty much whenever I go out- which is mostly walking my dogs. I see a lot of people not wearing masks. The main purpose of the mask is if you have it, stops it from being easily spread.

But if we had real president like Obama, I could see the Federal Govt. calling up 3M and ordering a billion+ n95 masks and having them freely available at schools, pharmacies, etc.

Hmm interesting and perhaps I should have provided more detail. Feel like for things like grocery shopping and maybe travel by subway, etc. gloves and mask would be necessary for the time being (gloves may be overkill but prudent if hand washing is not immediately/readily available?).

When I walk around my neighborhood I don't wear mask but I am in a suburban area and if I see and pass a few people it is rare'ish, absolutely wear one if going shopping, etc. where social interaction is bound to happen.

forgot about subways and metro transit - absolute petri dishes and during normal times MTA could never keep the subways clean - let alone now.

And I think here in NJ - absolutely mask is required to go in to any establishment - seeing signs up all the time now.

Nalod wrote:Many issues to come up. The federal deficit. Trumps corp tax cut was a vanity project to promote his second term. His admisnistration is filled with incompetant persons who are hired by design to not challange him.
He is a walking cesspool of contradictions and hypocrisy. No accountability, humility, empathy, ability to learn, listen, and is congnitive defiecient sociopath with a narsassistic disorder.
That he was not properly vetted thru a system that accredits lawyers, accountants, or bylaws of running a publicly held corporation. Failed casinos strife with allogations money laundering followed up by failed airline venture. Numersous small failures that most "billionaires" of legitimate means won't partake like selling steaks, water, and scam education. Won't even validate his finances by disclosing his taxes.
Blame Hilary, moronic followers of Limbaugh and Fox news? Social media? Trolled citizens all blend for the perfect storm. This is all right in front of us. Listen to Trump. Just listen to the man. He is unfit. He is lazy.
IS Biden a good candidate? Im not confident he is. But at his worst he is better than Trump. A tree stump would be better. A fit vice president would suffice.
BTW, When everyone pays into universal healthcare its not free. The start up costs are massive. Math and science solves it. Not politics.

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