y2zipper wrote:

nixluva wrote:Donnie sees him as a PG/SG and believes he can play the point. IMO he helps to cover up for TD in that Iman can run the offense, while TD looks to score, which is his strength. Iman can help CB too, by defending the PG when he's on the floor with CB. CB can then defend the slower SG's, using his strength. It's a good tradeoff.

I'd watch more video of Iman for those who don't think he can handle the ball well enough to bring it up at the NBA level. He's not Rautins. He's already a better PG than TD. Before the draft Iman did an interview where he said he never played with a dominant SF and PF and that he wished he had those kinds of players to pass to. He also said that he's a pure point and not a combo guard, but that he's improving on his scoring. He sees himself as a PG and has been playing point and SG, until proven otherwise i'd let him work both spots as he's been doing.

If this is true and he can play the P&R, I like this a lot more.

Well Donnie believes in Iman's PG ability:

Shumpert does not need the ball to be effective, making him a solid complement to the Knicks’ three stars. Although he is considered more of a combination guard than a true point, Walsh said Shumpert has the requisite playmaking skills. The Knicks need an eventual heir to Billups, who will be 35 next season.

“I think with our team offensively, he probably will play more point than he will two guard, because Chauncey can play ‘two’ probably as good as anybody,” Walsh said. “I think he can run pick-and-roll, I think he’ll see the play, and he’ll get better at it.”

Walsh said that Shumpert is also a better shooter than his reputation suggests and shot well during his workout for the team

“His shot’s not broken,” Walsh said, adding, “He has good form.”

Also Iman's shooting is better than advertised. He just needs better shot selection which he'll learn here with this team. He won't have to carry the team like he did at Ga. Tech. His ability to penetrate and finish is going to be a huge plus playing with STAT and Melo. This kid is quick in addition to being explosive. We haven't had a guard with his defense and explosion since Spree.

And we also just got our very own Big Baby Davis!

CrushAlot wrote:I really don't get this pick with Singleton there. What is the difference between Shumpert and Malcom Lee? This pick seems like an Isiah pick. It reminds me of when they drafted Balkman. I think the Knicks will regret not taking Singleton for the next ten years. I also don't think you draft upside in the first round and then go with a limited upside pick in the second. I think the Knicks blew it. The second round pick isn't a big deal because it was a second round pick but to leave Singleton, Hamilton, Faried and Montiejunas on the board in that spot will haunt the Knicks in my opinion.

What exactly is wrong with Iman as a prospect? He's fast, long, explosive, strong, great size for a guard, defends, rebounds, can penetrate, can go end to end in a blur and finish above the rim, despite the rumors he's not a bad shooter either. So in what way is he inferior as a pick to Singleton, Hamilton, Faried or Montiejunas?

Bonn1997 wrote:

mikesknicks wrote:

islesfan wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

The Knicks Fix
Walsh was booed drafting Chuck Person and Reggie Miller for Indy. "And I'm going out with everyone booing me," he said with a chuckle.
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ZERO NBA Championships to go with all that booing. Glad that he's going into retirement content with that.

Why are you here?

Why are you here?

We all have a right to think Donnie Walsh is not god so don't ask us why are we here like we have to agree with one reach and another terrible pick.

This dysfunctional organization does nothing but starphuck and hasn't won a friggin playoff game in 10 years. Yet people act like we should stop complaining.

You know, it's funny, I didn't hear you complain nearly as much during the Isiah Era. All of a sudden the team is the worst of all-time and we are going nowhere. All because some didn't like the 1st round pick and are angry we didn't buy more 2nd round picks.

We are in a different era of basketball. The sooner people realize that and accept it, the better they will feel. It beats wallowing in misery for no apparent reason other than some weird self gratification.

You know, it's funny, I didn't hear you complain nearly as much during the Isiah Era. All of a sudden the team is the worst of all-time and we are going nowhere. All because some didn't like the 1st round pick and are angry we didn't buy more 2nd round picks.

We are in a different era of basketball. The sooner people realize that and accept it, the better they will feel. It beats wallowing in misery for no apparent reason other than some weird self gratification.

CrushAlot wrote:I really don't get this pick with Singleton there. What is the difference between Shumpert and Malcom Lee? This pick seems like an Isiah pick. It reminds me of when they drafted Balkman. I think the Knicks will regret not taking Singleton for the next ten years. I also don't think you draft upside in the first round and then go with a limited upside pick in the second. I think the Knicks blew it. The second round pick isn't a big deal because it was a second round pick but to leave Singleton, Hamilton, Faried and Montiejunas on the board in that spot will haunt the Knicks in my opinion.

As good a defender as Singleton might be, he plays the same position as Melo. Dude would have been on the floor during crunch time unless the Knicks went small and slid Melo to the 4 which would kiil our post defense. Faried is a 6'7 rebounder. Again, playing him alongside Stat would make us extremely small. Put Faried at the 5 and totally nulify his rebounding because he is not snatching reb's over Centers....Shumpert made the most sense. Did you not watch how Rondo and Allen destroyed our backcourt? It was silly the way they toyed with us. Shumpert is developing as an offensive player and can be an Iguodala type player for us. Very good pick.

nixluva wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:For the first year and a half of the Isiah era I was in Kool-aid land and my posts were indistinguishable from Nixluva. Then I realized how badly things were going and became highly critical of the organization (including Isiah). We're not in a different era if we're still starphucking and we can't even win a playoff game.

What's wrong with you? Where is your sense of reason? We have 2 stars in their prime and all we have to do is surround them with role players. The Mavs did it with one All Star!!! How can you equate where this team is now with anything in the last 10 years? I guarantee that this team doesn't get swept in a 1st rd playoff again from here on.

With every improvement in the overall talent on this team we creep closer to the top of the East. We still need to plug holes, most particularly at C. But this isn't anything like what we went thru over the last 10 years. This is a good team getting better.

Nix,

the place of faries and unicorns is a better place. Somewhere over the rainbow you might be right.

Your thesis is kind of how all new "era" starts.

Compare this with other regimes? Yeah, its simple. We got Amare, a nice in prime star, paid full MSRP for Melo.

The pain for Melo won't be felt with the players missing unless Gallo blows up, but the plethera of draft picks we used.

So if this don't work it leaves us vulnerable to an "Isiah like" reponse where we panic and have to change to create a buzz.

Whats done is done, and the game will ulitmately decide. It should be fun.