Uptown wrote:

tkf wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Durant has shot almost 50% with Westbrook out (90 for 185). You know he had occasional bad shooting nights when Westbrook was healthy too, right?

good point bonn.. it is just sad how some will try to discredit durant in order to defend carmelo. even more sad that they just can't let carmelo be judged on his own merit... I think they are scared at what they really might find..

Durant is great, and with or without Westbrook, they could be down 3-1 still... the grizzlies are a good team, very good team with no "star" or " go to guy" supposedly.... they can beat anyone and have been a very good team all year..

Series is not over and Durant has been playing well, as long as he keeps playing well the thunder have a chance to win every game..

This post is a prime example of why you lose some credibility when discussing Melo. In defense of Durant, you make sure to point out that Durant is playing well eventhough he is still losing. Not only that, but you atcually take to the time to acknowledge the opponent and why they are beating the Thunder. When you knock Melo for his playoff record in Denver, you hardly ever mention that he was losing to the Spurs and Lakers and that his teams didn't have homecourt advantage nor a chance in h*% to win. You very black-n-white when discussing Melo is my point....

fIRST OF all you are in no position to determine who loses credibility.. LOL.. it is simple.. carmelo over his career has been a pretty subpar playoff performer... plain and simple.. the numbers support that, as does his record...

but you atcually take to the time to acknowledge the opponent and why they are beating the Thunder. When you knock Melo for his playoff record in Denver, you hardly ever mention that he was losing to the Spurs and Lakers and that his teams didn't have homecourt advantage nor a chance in h*% to win. You very black-n-white when discussing Melo is my point....

sure I do and here is why.. Durant is actually worth the discussion. here is a guy playing at an elite level, posters in here are taking shots at him as if he is shooting 10-35.. but he is not only shooting well, he is rebounding, defending and passing well.. He is just playing well.. so I had to note that he is not losing games, but getting beat..

CARMELO on the other hand has had a history including now it seems of laying playoff eggs...so there is no need to highlight how good the other team is or who he is playing, because when you play bad, you can lose to anyone... and you can't blame your teamates or lack there of, especially when you are the main culprit..

Durant has been to the finals, he has shown the ability to deliver... there should be no argument here...

And what about the losses to the clippers and jazz when carmelo's team had the home court advantage? it just wasn't the lakers and spurs bro....

At this point I am more black and white with carmelo because his ocean of excuses have run dry...it is clear with him, and more so than others why he has not had playoff success.. very clear....

Hersports85 wrote:

tkf wrote:

Hersports85 wrote:Damn, I really wanted a OKC/GSW finals. But this just shows that no matter how good or efficient a player maybe, he need a consistent #2 guy, not someone who has a 50/50 chance of having a good night. My guess is that this will make people appreciate westbrook more.

or maybe the other team is just better.. the grizzlies, like the pacers are big, physical teams, that play solid on both sides of the ball, they don't depend on one or two players, but rather focus on TEAM ball... the thunder are also a great team, just getting beat by a team that is playing better right now... Durant is playing well, if he were struggling then I could understand the criticism... but he is playing well and the series isn't over... especially with him still playing well..

Where did i criticize Durant? Memphis has 3 guys that consistently show up every game - Conley, Gasol, and Randolph. Who besides Durant that you can count on right now in these playoffs to perform every single night? If you think Westbrook doesn't effect this series or that Durant need help, then we just disagree.

And yes, Durant is playing well, but this is the 2nd time during crunch time he has faded away. It takes a 1 second to turn on any sports radio station or channel and just about every single analyst and former NBA player is saying the same thing. Not like I'm making this up nor trying to have some underlying agenda.

not saying you per say are criticizing him, but it is certainly the tone of this tread...

3G4G wrote:Melo plays with 6th Man Of The Year J.R.....a player you've slobbered over the yrs for. A Player you stated you would like to see resigned. You know he beat Kevin Mart out for that award....Tyson beat out Ibaka for DPOY last year and made 1st team ALL-NBA Defensive team this yr.

So this boils to you throwing a tantrum over Amar'e and Donnie Walsh(<----The GM responsible for bringing Melo here?)

Go ahead with your next set of excuses....

When JR Smith is your 2nd best scoring option you got other problems. I liked JR Smith at his current contract up to 6-7 million per as a 6th man.

I really dont care about the Amare signing. Cant change the past. I unlike you dont flip flop to whatever suits my argument.

Donnie Walsh was "forced" to make the trade by Dolan according to some. If the deal turns out bad it was Dolan's fault. If a deal turns out good it was Donnie Walsh's doing.

Call them excuses if you like. You keep jumping from one topic to another.

tkf wrote:simple question.. you are starting a franchise, and you have to chose between carmelo and Durant, who do you take?

Better yet... OKC owner just lost his mind.. he calls dolan and says, I will trade you durant straight up for carmelo... would you advise dolan to make that move if he asked you?

Durant is 24 yrs old. Melo is 28 yrs old.

This is like asking who would you rather have Garnett or Griffin.

You obviously go with the younger player if you are building from scratch. In any case we aren't getting a prime anybody because the NBA system is structured so a max player will be locked into the team that drafted him for a minimum of 5 yrs and is more likely to 8 yrs when you consider their first max contract.

In the NBA it is Lebron James then everyone else. We arent getting Lebron James.

AnubisADL wrote:

3G4G wrote:Melo plays with 6th Man Of The Year J.R.....a player you've slobbered over the yrs for. A Player you stated you would like to see resigned. You know he beat Kevin Mart out for that award....Tyson beat out Ibaka for DPOY last year and made 1st team ALL-NBA Defensive team this yr.

So this boils to you throwing a tantrum over Amar'e and Donnie Walsh(<----The GM responsible for bringing Melo here?)

Go ahead with your next set of excuses....

When JR Smith is your 2nd best scoring option you got other problems. I liked JR Smith at his current contract up to 6-7 million per as a 6th man.

I really dont care about the Amare signing. Cant change the past. I unlike you dont flip flop to whatever suits my argument.

Donnie Walsh was "forced" to make the trade by Dolan according to some. If the deal turns out bad it was Dolan's fault. If a deal turns out good it was Donnie Walsh's doing.

Call them excuses if you like. You keep jumping from one topic to another.

sorry but the melo trade has dolan's filthy drunken paws all over it

AnubisADL wrote:

tkf wrote:probably closer to beasley than he is lebron or durant.... LOL

I just don't get the fascination.. this guy is pretty much a volume chucker.. Yes he can score. especially when given 25+ shots... other than that, he offers absolutely nothing to a team that should warrant any GM or owner to pay his azz 20 million dollars and build a team around his skill set which pretty much leaves you with what we have now..

Fans are not asking for him to be perfect, just to be really good during this time of year, and he hasn't.. but that is no surprise to me, if you go back and look at his numbers.. yet some folks find joy in putting down a guy who is playing top level ball to somehow mind phuch us into believing that carmelo isn't playing that bad after all.. LOL.. come on man..

You dont like Melo because Gallo got traded for him just keep it real man.

Melo does the following that justify his salary

- Melo puts fans in the seats
- Melo gets teams to the playoffs which provides additional revenue
- Melo attracts other star players
- Melo helps build a culture of WINNING

I cant take someone serious who tries to talk up the likes of Kevin Martin and Monta Ellis as viable Carmelo Anthony replacements.

- Melo puts fans in the seats

TRUE but what kind of fans the dumb kind or the other kind? and what does this have to do with winning?

- Melo gets teams to the playoffs which provides additional revenue

TRUE but what does this have to do with winning a title?

- Melo attracts other star players

LOL

- Melo helps build a culture of WINNING

LMFAO

dk7th wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

tkf wrote:probably closer to beasley than he is lebron or durant.... LOL

I just don't get the fascination.. this guy is pretty much a volume chucker.. Yes he can score. especially when given 25+ shots... other than that, he offers absolutely nothing to a team that should warrant any GM or owner to pay his azz 20 million dollars and build a team around his skill set which pretty much leaves you with what we have now..

Fans are not asking for him to be perfect, just to be really good during this time of year, and he hasn't.. but that is no surprise to me, if you go back and look at his numbers.. yet some folks find joy in putting down a guy who is playing top level ball to somehow mind phuch us into believing that carmelo isn't playing that bad after all.. LOL.. come on man..

You dont like Melo because Gallo got traded for him just keep it real man.

Melo does the following that justify his salary

- Melo puts fans in the seats
- Melo gets teams to the playoffs which provides additional revenue
- Melo attracts other star players
- Melo helps build a culture of WINNING

I cant take someone serious who tries to talk up the likes of Kevin Martin and Monta Ellis as viable Carmelo Anthony replacements.

- Melo puts fans in the seats

TRUE but what kind of fans the dumb kind or the other kind? and what does this have to do with winning?

- Melo gets teams to the playoffs which provides additional revenue

TRUE but what does this have to do with winning a title?

- Melo attracts other star players

LOL

- Melo helps build a culture of WINNING

LMFAO

the last two not only have me, but one of my co-workers dying, he is neither a knick or nuggets fan, buit I had to call him into my office...... he asked me did carmelo have an account with this site... hahahaha

tkf wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

tkf wrote:probably closer to beasley than he is lebron or durant.... LOL

I just don't get the fascination.. this guy is pretty much a volume chucker.. Yes he can score. especially when given 25+ shots... other than that, he offers absolutely nothing to a team that should warrant any GM or owner to pay his azz 20 million dollars and build a team around his skill set which pretty much leaves you with what we have now..

Fans are not asking for him to be perfect, just to be really good during this time of year, and he hasn't.. but that is no surprise to me, if you go back and look at his numbers.. yet some folks find joy in putting down a guy who is playing top level ball to somehow mind phuch us into believing that carmelo isn't playing that bad after all.. LOL.. come on man..

You dont like Melo because Gallo got traded for him just keep it real man.

Melo does the following that justify his salary

- Melo puts fans in the seats
- Melo gets teams to the playoffs which provides additional revenue
- Melo attracts other star players
- Melo helps build a culture of WINNING

I cant take someone serious who tries to talk up the likes of Kevin Martin and Monta Ellis as viable Carmelo Anthony replacements.

you have to be kidding me.... MSG sells out when the knicks were bad.. LOL

Gets teams to the playoffs? to do what?

melo attracts other star players? so what is the complaint about him having no help.. where are the star players? where where they in Denver? this statement is so bogus.. ROFL

melo helps build a winning culture? OK, I QUIT....

You are embarrassing yourself. Being a perpetual lottery team is doing what exactly? If getting to the playoffs was so easy why hadn't the Knicks done it in a decade?

You have to have cap space to get the other players. Denver had broken down Camby, Nene, and Martin combined with old Billups and Iverson. Denver was stuck swapping contract due to their cap situation.

Contrary to what you may believe Melo brings excitement to most Knicks fans. Just take a glance at the ticket prices.

3G4G wrote:I have never flip-flopped in regards to this team, how it was put together, and where it's going. Not once have I flip-flopped. Meanwhile you have multiple times in our current exchanges.

You're trying to be coy as to who brought who here. I stated Donnie Walsh to put the onus on you hating on Amar'e but slobbering over Melo.....

I thought neither should have been brought here, no matter the GM or President....Water and Oil will never mix.

Im so confused. Once again jumping to a whole other topic.

AnubisADL wrote:

tkf wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

tkf wrote:probably closer to beasley than he is lebron or durant.... LOL

I just don't get the fascination.. this guy is pretty much a volume chucker.. Yes he can score. especially when given 25+ shots... other than that, he offers absolutely nothing to a team that should warrant any GM or owner to pay his azz 20 million dollars and build a team around his skill set which pretty much leaves you with what we have now..

Fans are not asking for him to be perfect, just to be really good during this time of year, and he hasn't.. but that is no surprise to me, if you go back and look at his numbers.. yet some folks find joy in putting down a guy who is playing top level ball to somehow mind phuch us into believing that carmelo isn't playing that bad after all.. LOL.. come on man..

You dont like Melo because Gallo got traded for him just keep it real man.

Melo does the following that justify his salary

- Melo puts fans in the seats
- Melo gets teams to the playoffs which provides additional revenue
- Melo attracts other star players
- Melo helps build a culture of WINNING

I cant take someone serious who tries to talk up the likes of Kevin Martin and Monta Ellis as viable Carmelo Anthony replacements.

you have to be kidding me.... MSG sells out when the knicks were bad.. LOL

Gets teams to the playoffs? to do what?

melo attracts other star players? so what is the complaint about him having no help.. where are the star players? where where they in Denver? this statement is so bogus.. ROFL

melo helps build a winning culture? OK, I QUIT....

You are embarrassing yourself. Being a perpetual lottery team is doing what exactly? If getting to the playoffs was so easy why hadn't the Knicks done it in a decade?

You have to have cap space to get the other players. Denver had broken down Camby, Nene, and Martin combined with old Billups and Iverson. Denver was stuck swapping contract due to their cap situation.

Contrary to what you may believe Melo brings excitement to most Knicks fans. Just take a glance at the ticket prices.

After that mess you typed you can't dare say someone is embarrasing themselves.. let me recap..

Melo attracts other star players
- Melo helps build a culture of WINNING

LMAO!!!!!!

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