EwingsGlass wrote:

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VDesai wrote:Get back on topic guys, Rokas is good again

Sorry but Rokas is just the poster child for Knick fans making more of something than it really is.
Shout out Baker, Frank and King Wroten!
Rokas played well yesterday. But you know you played better? A first year second rounder.
One that has no ties to wanting to play in Europe.
My new suggestion for thread topic is “Tyler Kolek alert”
Just seems silly to talk about this kid who is now in his third summer league.

By the way, you forgot to pay the Rokus posting fee.

Not getting worked up, but Joku had a solid game. 7/7. It’s worth a little daydream.

Kolek is already under contract, so no daydream required.

Kolek posted a team low -14 Plus/Minus yesterday. Joku had a +6. Kolek hit the game winner. Awesome moment, but would have been -17 without that shot and free throw? It’s summer league and small sample sets mean very little. Looking back to the Nets, team low -18 plus minus (Joku, +6). Charlotte he had a team high +9,(Joku -6)

Now, I’m not blaming anyone or anything for 3 games of summer league, but it’s worth looking at why the team is getting out scored so badly while Kolek is on the floor and is outscoring opponents while Joku is on the floor. Need more info to make any judgments. But let’s call off any parades for a little bit.

I do think Joku would be productive and I do thing he could potentially beat out McBride for minutes. But I think he would need to play behind McBride for this year and get the timing and sets down. I’m in favor of bringing him over.

Don’t think he is a bad player. Just not a top 9 player on a playoff team.
His problem has also been athleticism. Good for being okay in Euro league but nowhere near NBA impact level. May be Kolek’s problem as well.
Unfortunately, with most young guys who are borderline NBA players, as we have seen, the book has already been written . It’s hard enough for the guys who are top 20 prospects to make it. Reason why draft is a crap shoot.

Wish Rokas luck. It will be in Europe.

I want to believe you are wrong and that his skills make up for it. You are more likely right. I'd prefer to think he is Doncic-lite for the time being.

Mets fans said it best, you gotta believe!
He was a Doncic lite only in Knicks fans minds.
Don’t think he even got up to anywhere near that level on his own team this in Europe.
Agree with you though, hope I am wrong.
Right now, don’t think he has any shot of making this roster.

I would be excited to see him join if we had any pathway to minutes. I do not see how that happens

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Lmao. Still nowhere near the master.

Btw, what do you think of Rokas?

Weis me once, shame on… shame on you. Fool me, you can’t be fooled again.

I might rather see us use Rokas in a trade.

Excited for Kolek’s potential.

GustavBahler wrote:If they hadn’t drafted Kolek, gave him a record contract, and he hadn’t been playing well in SL, I’m guessing they would add Rokas to the roster. Also guessing they would be happy with a second round pick. Would be surprised if they were able to trade him for a first. He would probably have to be on the team and playing well up to the first trade deadline. Don’t believe he would get the minutes to do that.

Unless he's willing to take a two-way, which I'm guessing he's not, Rokas is going back to Europe. He missed his chance to come over. Rokas would have to dust Kolek given the financial investment the club has already. Not just play well, but prove he's undoubtedly the best prospect on the club.

GustavBahler wrote:If they hadn’t drafted Kolek, gave him a record contract, and he hadn’t been playing well in SL, I’m guessing they would add Rokas to the roster. Also guessing they would be happy with a second round pick. Would be surprised if they were able to trade him for a first. He would probably have to be on the team and playing well up to the first trade deadline. Don’t believe he would get the minutes to do that.

It seems like it doesn’t have to either-or thing between kolek and jobubaitis. Rokas seems more like a combo guard. If the Knicks move deuce for a center before the season then there’s an opening for Rokas on the roster as a third string combo guard behind bridges and Donte on the depth chart at SG. If deuce stays put, Rokas probably stays in Europe for another year. I think given the fact the Knicks are unlikely to have a first round pick next year, the window for Rokas to come over would be there. But either Deuce would have to be moved or Payne not resigned.

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Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:If they hadn’t drafted Kolek, gave him a record contract, and he hadn’t been playing well in SL, I’m guessing they would add Rokas to the roster. Also guessing they would be happy with a second round pick. Would be surprised if they were able to trade him for a first. He would probably have to be on the team and playing well up to the first trade deadline. Don’t believe he would get the minutes to do that.

It seems like it doesn’t have to either-or thing between kolek and jobubaitis. Rokas seems more like a combo guard. If the Knicks move deuce for a center before the season then there’s an opening for Rokas on the roster as a third string combo guard behind bridges and Donte on the depth chart at SG. If deuce stays put, Rokas probably stays in Europe for another year. I think given the fact the Knicks are unlikely to have a first round pick next year, the window for Rokas to come over would be there. But either Deuce would have to be moved or Payne not resigned.

Makes sense, but I was under the impression that Rokas was drafted to be a backup PG. Would he even want to be the 3rd string SG?

Deuce might have a better shot at being an off guard than Rokas because of his D. You're right that if its between Deuce and Rokas, Deuce will probably win.

Im guessing he will go back to Europe if he isnt the first PG.or SG to come off the bench. We know Rokas isnt supplanting DDV. And it appears unlikely that he will be on the depth chart ahead of Cam.

At some point he has to be okay with whatever role is available if he wants to play in the nba. It’s a long season and he would get plenty of chances even as a third string player.

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:If they hadn’t drafted Kolek, gave him a record contract, and he hadn’t been playing well in SL, I’m guessing they would add Rokas to the roster. Also guessing they would be happy with a second round pick. Would be surprised if they were able to trade him for a first. He would probably have to be on the team and playing well up to the first trade deadline. Don’t believe he would get the minutes to do that.

It seems like it doesn’t have to either-or thing between kolek and jobubaitis. Rokas seems more like a combo guard. If the Knicks move deuce for a center before the season then there’s an opening for Rokas on the roster as a third string combo guard behind bridges and Donte on the depth chart at SG. If deuce stays put, Rokas probably stays in Europe for another year. I think given the fact the Knicks are unlikely to have a first round pick next year, the window for Rokas to come over would be there. But either Deuce would have to be moved or Payne not resigned.

To put skill levels in perspective, Duane Washington Jr. has looked more like he can contribute now in todays NBA than either of the two.
Why not give him a chance?

Nalod wrote:

Maccabi Tel Aviv is in advanced talks to sign Lithuanian point guard Rokas Jokubaitis, 23, who has played the past three seasons with Barcelona. With a height of 1.93 meters, Jokubaitis could become the first point guard under Oded Kattash. Barcelona had the option to extend Jokubaitis’ contract for another season, but decided not to exercise this option, paving the way for his transfer. If the deal is finalized, Jokubaitis will join Jordan Loyd in Maccabi’s backcourt, which also hopes to complete the signing of Daryl Macon soon. – via Sportand

Its either a tactic to get Knicks or another team involved in locking up his NBA future or his price going up in Euroleague. Either way his Agent/advisor not waiting for a camp invite and a "see what happens".

Knicks gotta do them, Rokas gotta do whats good for him. Seems the "alert" is time sensitive.

Perhaps a little of both. Rubio got the Barcelona job and Rokas gotta secure his next contract

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Are these are latest 2 way contract free agent adds?