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1/6/2012  9:43 PM
nyk4ever wrote:shumpert out of the game late in the 4th because he was cramped up again. not that d'antoni pulled him.

Makes sense. Can't wait til team gets in shape. A Lot of the Players are out of shape.
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1/6/2012  9:43 PM
part of the reason that players love playing for d;antoni is because he's loyal to them to a fault. says he's still thinking about whether or not to start shump over TD. i think we all think he will, but players respect the little things like that, not going out there and trashing them.
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1/6/2012  9:45 PM
Who is our training staff? Can you imagine the job they have to do, getting these guys ramped up to and maintain season-level pace with no preseason? Man, I'd have pilates instructors in there, 24/7 masseuse... the bench play is going to be so crucial for us.
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1/6/2012  9:45 PM
shump 37mins and cramped again
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1/6/2012  9:46 PM
nykshaknbake wrote:Phew! Giving me ulcers:

1. Shump is the real deal. Needs to improve his shot but I like how he's progressing with the playmaking and decision making.
2. We have no penetration defense and John Wall is really, really fast
3. Great work on the offensive boards by Chandler.
4. Defense was horrible as ususual
5. A win is win though! We just need to hold on and not get in too big a hole and hopefully when we start playing better we'll be competitive enough to be relevant

The Defense was actually good..again..outside the first quarter. Wizards at 32 in first quarter. Only 64 after.

Also it's a tall order to keep Wall from doing that the whole game. Shump did a pretty good job on it for most the game. Got a strip on one of his drives. Bibby got a charge on him one time. From a set Half court defense the Wizards had no penetration when Shump was on the court.
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1/6/2012  9:48 PM
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gunsnewing wrote:Melo is problably going to miss sometime with groin injury. I'd start Bibby, Shump, Fields, amare & tyson

ewww let's not get carried away here bro. bibby looked OK tonight, but you can't go startin him, even if melo misses time.

Why you think TD will start at PG again if Melo is out?
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1/6/2012  9:51 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Melo is problably going to miss sometime with groin injury. I'd start Bibby, Shump, Fields, amare & tyson

ewww let's not get carried away here bro. bibby looked OK tonight, but you can't go startin him, even if melo misses time.

Why you think TD will start at PG again if Melo is out?

I guess you can also play shump, fields, walker, amare & tyson. I rather start Bibby over Walker
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1/6/2012  9:51 PM
Celts getting killed by Pacers...we gain a game..great night.
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1/6/2012  9:54 PM
Just by listening to Shump in the post game you can tell he is a smart dude. Understands basketball
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1/6/2012  9:57 PM
nyk4ever wrote:shumpert out of the game late in the 4th because he was cramped up again. not that d'antoni pulled him.

see, I told you man. Play him til he cramps, let him sit for 2, then put him back in.

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1/6/2012  10:01 PM
martin wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:shumpert out of the game late in the 4th because he was cramped up again. not that d'antoni pulled him.

see, I told you man. Play him til he cramps, let him sit for 2, then put him back in.

Play him 'til the wheels fall off
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1/6/2012  10:02 PM
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knicks1248 wrote:I'm going to this game tonight..should be a easy win

I can't believe people are still using the words "easy" and "win" in the same sentence.

Wiz are starving for a win, and they are desperate. Knicks love to use every excuse in the book why we cant win.

This is a typical trap game for us....Best case, we win a close game on a last second shot.

I don't know about "Best Case", but no game is a gimme with this team. I just want a solid win, where the team looks like a real team. I'd like some execution on both ends, but especially on defense.

I'm not the type to rub it in but did I call it or what...."Best Case" we win a close game on a last second melo shot.....This team will have problem beating a HS team right now. We need a veteran PG in the worst way....

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1/6/2012  10:02 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Just by listening to Shump in the post game you can tell he is a smart dude. Understands basketball

I noticed this about the kid before the draft. I looked at all his interviews and saw that he was calm and collected and seemed to understand what he needed to work on and what to expect. I posted some of that stuff here, somewhere.
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1/6/2012  10:04 PM
blkexec wrote:
nixluva wrote:
blkexec wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I'm going to this game tonight..should be a easy win

I can't believe people are still using the words "easy" and "win" in the same sentence.

Wiz are starving for a win, and they are desperate. Knicks love to use every excuse in the book why we cant win.

This is a typical trap game for us....Best case, we win a close game on a last second shot.

I don't know about "Best Case", but no game is a gimme with this team. I just want a solid win, where the team looks like a real team. I'd like some execution on both ends, but especially on defense.

I'm not the type to rub it in but did I call it or what...."Best Case" we win a close game on a last second melo shot.....This team will have problem beating a HS team right now. We need a veteran PG in the worst way....

I was thinking about what you predicted when the game ended lol If Shumpert has started from the get-go Knicks would've won by 15+ and I would've got gamepicker right!
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1/6/2012  10:05 PM
blkexec wrote:
nixluva wrote:
blkexec wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I'm going to this game tonight..should be a easy win

I can't believe people are still using the words "easy" and "win" in the same sentence.

Wiz are starving for a win, and they are desperate. Knicks love to use every excuse in the book why we cant win.

This is a typical trap game for us....Best case, we win a close game on a last second shot.

I don't know about "Best Case", but no game is a gimme with this team. I just want a solid win, where the team looks like a real team. I'd like some execution on both ends, but especially on defense.

I'm not the type to rub it in but did I call it or what...."Best Case" we win a close game on a last second melo shot.....This team will have problem beating a HS team right now. We need a veteran PG in the worst way....

Yeah i'm just glad I saw what I was looking for after the 1st qtr. They looked like a team! They had some shaky moments due to the unsettled rotations, but the more we settle on a real rotation that works, those lulls won't happen as much. Wiz got back in in it when we went to the bench.
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1/6/2012  10:06 PM
martin wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:shumpert out of the game late in the 4th because he was cramped up again. not that d'antoni pulled him.

see, I told you man. Play him til he cramps, let him sit for 2, then put him back in.

you hit it bro. i mean you had to think logically when shump was out of the game that d'antoni wasn't sitting him for any other reason than that.

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1/6/2012  10:07 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Melo is problably going to miss sometime with groin injury. I'd start Bibby, Shump, Fields, amare & tyson

ewww let's not get carried away here bro. bibby looked OK tonight, but you can't go startin him, even if melo misses time.

Why you think TD will start at PG again if Melo is out?

no i don't think it's td. i think walker starts. sucks, there's no bench.

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1/6/2012  10:07 PM
nixluva wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Just by listening to Shump in the post game you can tell he is a smart dude. Understands basketball

I noticed this about the kid before the draft. I looked at all his interviews and saw that he was calm and collected and seemed to understand what he needed to work on and what to expect. I posted some of that stuff here, somewhere.


Yea I was following all the insane workout videos he posted during the lockout on twitter. Iman has everything it takes to be a great player
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1/6/2012  10:07 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
blkexec wrote:
nixluva wrote:
blkexec wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I'm going to this game tonight..should be a easy win

I can't believe people are still using the words "easy" and "win" in the same sentence.

Wiz are starving for a win, and they are desperate. Knicks love to use every excuse in the book why we cant win.

This is a typical trap game for us....Best case, we win a close game on a last second shot.

I don't know about "Best Case", but no game is a gimme with this team. I just want a solid win, where the team looks like a real team. I'd like some execution on both ends, but especially on defense.

I'm not the type to rub it in but did I call it or what...."Best Case" we win a close game on a last second melo shot.....This team will have problem beating a HS team right now. We need a veteran PG in the worst way....

I was thinking about what you predicted when the game ended lol If Shumpert has started from the get-go Knicks would've won by 15+ and I would've got gamepicker right!

Exactly..why are people complaining like they didn't watch the game...we came back from a 16 pt deficit almost instantaneous as soon as we had the lineup change.
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1/6/2012  10:17 PM
FoeDiddy wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
blkexec wrote:
nixluva wrote:
blkexec wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I'm going to this game tonight..should be a easy win

I can't believe people are still using the words "easy" and "win" in the same sentence.

Wiz are starving for a win, and they are desperate. Knicks love to use every excuse in the book why we cant win.

This is a typical trap game for us....Best case, we win a close game on a last second shot.

I don't know about "Best Case", but no game is a gimme with this team. I just want a solid win, where the team looks like a real team. I'd like some execution on both ends, but especially on defense.

I'm not the type to rub it in but did I call it or what...."Best Case" we win a close game on a last second melo shot.....This team will have problem beating a HS team right now. We need a veteran PG in the worst way....

I was thinking about what you predicted when the game ended lol If Shumpert has started from the get-go Knicks would've won by 15+ and I would've got gamepicker right!

Exactly..why are people complaining like they didn't watch the game...we came back from a 16 pt deficit almost instantaneous as soon as we had the lineup change.

Big lineup...6'5, 6'7, 6'8, 6'10, 7'1

Switching on picks is not a problem anymore with this lineup....All because Shump can guard 3...sometimes 4 positions. Fields can also hold his own on defense, with his lateral quickness....and the teams trust each other on those switches with this big lineup.

When TD is in the game, or Bibby....they try too hard to help out on the defensive switches,which leaves players wide open. Can't wait til BD comes back. He's another heavy weight that can play multiple positions on defense.

TD's value is slowly slipping away.....

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